The Bigbee Line Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 (edited) The inspiration, a 1955 picture from Charlie Verrall https://www.flickr.com/photos/31514768@N05/3417938669/in/photolist-6d2Q64-fumffn-invrW4-hoLjKv-gvHy9u-9kqi4W-ZuijKu-asyvJp-fumf5Z-boGt8d-ZvNiqF-bk4rtJ-ZtRJKz-61ymva-7ARZLT-GUCaS7-263K6Md-V1WPtG-28vEZzj-pG3tvL-btZM4G-83PXCB-69PWoN-CgRDUQ-gVtkCu-6VWLqt-d7gL29-b71LET-d7gKRS-bGUAgM-7FucaU-btZMDY-dU9oR1-nGxcEo-bGUB3v-nHBMwi-nNMLXx-aoaE2F-61Dm6y-a7Popk-a7SiUE-6sP1p3-cBZNms-a7ShXh-azq7kv-BuVrxc-6MN2BX-cBZQFA-Yp4Qga-s64iLN 377S is shunting the South end of the works on 1st September 1955.... I went there with Dad before I went to school, so probably from 1958 onwards, The Isetta Factory was open from 1957 - 1964 and I saw them being shunted through those very gates. It was 'The Yellow Engine'..... No reproduction without copyright holders authority Later in 1969 I happened to be at the station with a camera and film, luckily snatched these few pictures, no planning, just luck.... Note the wide foot crossing giving access for workers, no health & safety, just common sense... The Bulldozer doing the dirty deed... the same scene in more recent times... So where does that leave me... My experience so far with Hayling Island is to show how complex even the most simple layout can seem. I pinched the Y point from 'Tenterden Sidings' so it was logical to re-use the board. I did a test run with the terrier and 3 wagons, ended up with 24" of head shunt. The real head shunt took at least 6 wagons plus the loco, so that's my contribution to selective compression.... Looking the other way. The toilet roll holders (shades of Blue Peter) are the place markers for the brick gate posts. Just need to meet my June deadline... ... ... 625 3012 Edited August 17, 2019 by The Bigbee Line 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted December 26, 2018 Author Share Posted December 26, 2018 Despite the simple arrangement I have chosen to compress the layout to a single turnout I think the original layout had three tracks entering the south end of the works, later reduced to two. My version is the head shunt and the two gates, there is no actual mainline connection.... So I need to ensure the wall has any added detail I can justify... Looking at one of my own pictures there are quite a few things to be added, signs, telephone cabinets, doorways, point handles... I can all add some wall mounted lights and various figures. I've started playing about with one of the signs for a bit of fun... Even then the original had two versions... 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted December 26, 2018 Author Share Posted December 26, 2018 I did some browsing on 'side by side maps' and found a map that showed all the relevant tracks. The wall and tracks to be modelled are in the plan below: Just waiting for some SE Finecast brick sheets to arrive... 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted December 26, 2018 Author Share Posted December 26, 2018 Not too much on Boxing Day... I've had a go at drawing my brick pillars. I'm going to have a trial print, I'll let you know how I get on.... 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sf315 Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 A good start Ernie. It’ll bring back memories you have as you build it. A good layout to showcase locomotives. Thanks Steve. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delticfan Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 Not too much on Boxing Day... I've had a go at drawing my brick pillars. I'm going to have a trial print, I'll let you know how I get on.... Brighton Works Wall 001 Coloured jpg.jpg Your drawing looks great how did you draw this, what software did you use. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted December 27, 2018 Author Share Posted December 27, 2018 Your drawing looks great how did you draw this, what software did you use. I used Microsoft Paint, for me probably the simplest tool going... The file is a bitmap .bmp. See the attached example, Paint allows me to use gridlines and zoom in. The different shades of brick were copied from various bricks on a prototype building. The best part is the ability to copy and paste sections. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted December 28, 2018 Author Share Posted December 28, 2018 TALES FROM THE WALL.... I scaled my wall from information from the internet and wanted to check some real bricks. Knowing a handy wall I thought I'd check some key dimensions.. I was most surprised that the end of the wall is almost an exact replica of one of the works brick gate posts. The width of 3 bricks is 27.1/2" and the thicknesses of 10 bricks is 33". 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delticfan Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 My wife thinks I’m mad, I do the same measuring bricks!! Thanks for the offer of the file, I hadn’t realised you were printing them I was sort of interested in drawing for laser cutting. I’ve tried a few software sample packages but either I’m too thick or the softwares too complicated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted December 28, 2018 Author Share Posted December 28, 2018 Today, I started cutting out the end for the 2 tracks to exit the visible section and enter the fiddle yard / cassette board. Adding the first part of the board joint. I also had a play with my prototype brick pier. 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted December 30, 2018 Author Share Posted December 30, 2018 (edited) Yesterday was mainly Bricks, Wagons and a trial run... BRICKWORK The test print on ordinary paper looked OK. My plan is to print onto self adhesive label paper, cut out and apply to a wood/card core. I then had to think about the 'folding up' to ensure that the corners looked right, i.e. the two faces of the brick were the same colour... I have used 'Microsoft Paint' as it matches my I.T. skill level... basic, but adequate. With the 'gridlines' visible I have made the mortar 5 pixels wide. The mortar is a yellow colour. As a child we lived in a house in Brighton that had been build using Lime Mortar, supposed to be more flexible that sand and cement. It was very soft and could be rubbed away with a stick (I was a very mischievous child)... This is an enlarged screen shot. There is nothing, other than time, to stop me 'rounding off' the corners and varying the colour within individual bricks, might try that for a simple structure later.. This is the progress so far. I have separated the parts of the pier; bottom, middle and top. For drawing purposes I have allowed a 1 pixel fold line that is not coloured at the moment. Once I have tried and adjusted the fold width I can mark the fold line top and bottom, colouring the actual fold, we'll see how that pans out. The 'slopey' part of the brick has been increased in height as this will be folded over the mount board chamfer as used by Chaz Harrison on the Dock Green Structures. As an aside I have seen real brick walls made into transfer sheets, then applied to embossed plasticard. With setting solution, the decal was 'shrunk' into the joints. Even though the mortar joints were not coincidental between the decal and the sheet, the effect looked good. TEST RUN The other task completed was a test run with 32635... Edited December 30, 2018 by The Bigbee Line 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fastdax Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Looking good, Ernie! To get a more 3D effect on the printed bricks, have you considered adding a shadow under each brick and (say) to the left as well? This would make the brick faces appear to sit slightly in front of the mortar. A couple of pixels should do it, using a darkened shade of the cream mortar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted December 31, 2018 Author Share Posted December 31, 2018 Looking good, Ernie! To get a more 3D effect on the printed bricks, have you considered adding a shadow under each brick and (say) to the left as well? This would make the brick faces appear to sit slightly in front of the mortar. A couple of pixels should do it, using a darkened shade of the cream mortar. Here's one I made earlier... I had noted on some 1950's brick paper there was shadow added to try and give a 3D effect. I was planning to try a small section to shade the mortar, also to randomise the bricks. To give a guide I enlarged a section of wall to roughly the same scale... Not sure if I've mentioned it before, but on flickr, Ian D Nolan has an excellent picture of the goods shed at Hove https://www.flickr.com/photos/31890193@N08/17286453866/in/album-72157645849661774/ that is my colour inspiration, the view of the other wall did not get the sun, so looks completely different... https://www.flickr.com/photos/31890193@N08/7852175654/in/album-72157645849661774/ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted January 1, 2019 Author Share Posted January 1, 2019 I try and do a bit on the board everyday, gets me out of the house and on my feet, no sitting about in the workshop.... too cold at this time of year... The board when built for Tenterden Sidings used some handy strips of ply, forming an L section with a strip of timber at the front to keep that edge from wavy about. Now with its re-use I needed to match it up to a cassette board, PLUS make it suitable for hanging on 2 shelf brackets in the office upstairs. So the job tonight was to attach 2 timbers that sit at the same lower level as the end joining board and also line up with the slotted shelf brackets.... Not much going on upstairs as I am screwing down through the surface to secure the framing below. My experience operating the excellent Dock Green at Peterborough has been quite inspirational. I have a 4 foot Cassette board that will have a visible section on the front track, anyway that's the plan.... 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted May 20, 2019 Author Share Posted May 20, 2019 Need to get a wiggle on with this. I decided to use a non functioning Peco point to represent the mainline connection. Needs to sort the walls next 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted May 21, 2019 Author Share Posted May 21, 2019 (edited) I struggled tonight to get my pictures the right way up..... I had purchased some softwood to create the core of the brick pillars. Not being too sure where to place them I thought I'd have a dummy run. here is attempt No.1: The trackbase (laminate floor underlay) has been laid to allow the tracks onto what will be the fiddle yard. The missing point blade will be fitted when it surfaces,,, The gate post between the 2 sidings needs to come this way to fit in the vee as is the picture below right. I think I'll make my wall the height of the backscene. Maybe recreate a scene with 32635 and see how the wall looks for height? Edited May 21, 2019 by The Bigbee Line 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted May 21, 2019 Author Share Posted May 21, 2019 I went out on 'slug patrol' and had 5 minutes in the workshop with some odds and ends of timber to create place markers.... I tried a shot with the flash and that was very, very grainy, I lightened this one and turned it into monochrome. Must try the loco tomorrow to get the heights right... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted May 25, 2019 Author Share Posted May 25, 2019 Mostly gardening today. As the sun set I had a quick half hour in the workshop. I’ve got a 4’8.1/2” board that will have track laid as a basic fiddle Yard. It will double afterwards with another board for some shunting fun. The points are Marcway. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted May 25, 2019 Author Share Posted May 25, 2019 Might have a go at a couple of sets of gates tomorrow. The usual coffee stirrers, sanded to a nice smooth finish, with a very slight chamfer to delineate the individual boards. I've got a stack of spare brass strip so should be able to fabricate some working hinges. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted May 26, 2019 Author Share Posted May 26, 2019 Gardening took the lead again today, until rain stopped play... So I added the pattern makers dowels to the joint between the two boards and bolted them together properly for the first time. The Marcway points need 2 layers of mounting card to match the height of the C&L and Peco track. I pinned the first turnout in place pinned a short section of track in the location of the short headshunt. I want the headshunt to be able to take 2 x 17'6 over headstocks wagons, so might need to shuffle the tracks along when I do a test with a Terrier.. You can also see some more bashing fodder in the shape of the 3 Lima Green Mineral wagons... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted July 2, 2019 Author Share Posted July 2, 2019 Finally got the track wired and painted, Matt Dark Earth... Also added the front fascia board. I can now get the ballast down. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted July 3, 2019 Author Share Posted July 3, 2019 I’ve started the walkways first, using a sieved mixture of Colliery Waste and BBQ ash applied over some brushed on PVA. When it had dried I hoovered off the loose. Then started some ballast. Trying very hard for the manicured effect in this section. The next section will portray the more weather worn ballast in depots. I just need to find an eye dropper for the glue. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyddrail Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 Glad to see the layout is progressing nicely. Producing the show guide today to keep out of the hot sun. Cheers. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bungus the Fogeyman Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 Very nice Ern.....nice to see the competition! Will you be using kettles at Pauls? Disgusting of Market Harborough Ps hate to worry you but mine is slightly closer to being finished than this! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted July 6, 2019 Author Share Posted July 6, 2019 It’s more finished than others. You have to remembers, it’s a hobby, a pastime, relaxation. I’ve got a job, luckily that also involves trains.... anyway I hope you’ll be surprised in a few weeks. Plus any sarcasm and you’ll be getting the vegetarian option for Sunday lunch. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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