danstercivicman Posted November 14, 2020 Author Share Posted November 14, 2020 That would actually make sense for if the 6MT Clan took the 09:32 Newcastle from Carlisle to Stranraer then a fitted freight in the early evening back to Carlisle it would then potentially be ready to work the DOWN N.IRISHMAN back to Stranraer Harbour from Carlisle at 02:04 HRS... the cycle would then repeat maybe that’s how the diagrams worked? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stivesnick Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 Great video - very informative. The sound was a bit quiet. Regards Nick 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted November 14, 2020 Author Share Posted November 14, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, stivesnick said: Great video - very informative. The sound was a bit quiet. Regards Nick Oh I’ll have to look at that. I was just standing behind my phone Glad you liked it. Part Two will be Morning Freight and Freight Locos Part Three will be The Newcastle Services, Boat Trains and Port Road locals. Part Five will be evening Freight and workings. Part Five will be DMU’s and hopefully a Class 126 built!!! Trouble is getting all the research in! Edited November 14, 2020 by danstercivicman 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted November 14, 2020 Author Share Posted November 14, 2020 2 hours ago, stivesnick said: Great video - very informative. The sound was a bit quiet. Regards Nick Oh there is a sound issue. It’s perfect on my phone but terrible on my my tele! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted November 14, 2020 Author Share Posted November 14, 2020 (edited) I think I’ve fixed it. Hopefully this is better? Edited November 14, 2020 by danstercivicman 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted November 17, 2020 Author Share Posted November 17, 2020 Anyone know what this wagon is? I think it maybe china clay and quite out of region? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clagmeister Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 I like this layout. You haven't tried to squeeze stuff that wasn't there in. The operation is excellent, reminds me very much of my old layout Caolisport. The Port Road jobs were really hard on the Kingmoor crews. My mate said he some terrible firing turns on them with hard hitting drivers. The Clans were excellent and well suited to the diagrams. Thanks Claggy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheatley Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 If it's a china clay wagon I think it should have an end door. It has a clay sheet but under that it appears to be a common or garden open. I'm not an expert on china clay wagons thoigh ! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Sidelines Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 20 hours ago, danstercivicman said: Anyone know what this wagon is? Hello Dan I was thinking lime - some of the local soils arevery heavy (clayey) and regularly get a dose of lime. Just a thought. Ray 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted November 18, 2020 Author Share Posted November 18, 2020 Like this : https://railsofsheffield.com/products/30734/Bachmann-37-040-oo-gauge-5-plank-wagon-steel-floor-ici-lime-with-load-weathered Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted November 18, 2020 Author Share Posted November 18, 2020 Shall I repaint it? Chassis black Unfitted BR Grey Tarpaulin faded nato Black/grey Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted November 18, 2020 Author Share Posted November 18, 2020 21 hours ago, Clagmeister said: I like this layout. You haven't tried to squeeze stuff that wasn't there in. The operation is excellent, reminds me very much of my old layout Caolisport. The Port Road jobs were really hard on the Kingmoor crews. My mate said he some terrible firing turns on them with hard hitting drivers. The Clans were excellent and well suited to the diagrams. Thanks Claggy Thank you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Sidelines Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 1 hour ago, danstercivicman said: Shall I repaint it? Chassis black Unfitted BR Grey Tarpaulin faded nato Black/grey Not knowing but your truck is bauxite = fitted. Buxton is too far for a loose coupled load to Stranraer? Ray Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted November 18, 2020 Author Share Posted November 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Silver Sidelines said: Not knowing but your truck is bauxite = fitted. Buxton is too far for a loose coupled load to Stranraer? Ray Yes that be better. I’ve got some vac pipes I can add. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheatley Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 If it's 10' wheelbase then it can be fitted but I can't tell from the photo. I'm not aware of any 9' fitted open wagons still around at that date, certainly not in large numbers. A bog standard unfitted open could have virtually anything in it which did not need to be there in a hurry. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted November 20, 2020 Author Share Posted November 20, 2020 (edited) A new video! Hopefully the sound is better. Somewhat a redoing of the morning video but with cinifilm effects! I have had to condense the shunting and leave it in a cliffhanger... the 07:40 to Glasgow! I hope you enjoy it! Edited November 20, 2020 by danstercivicman 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted November 24, 2020 Author Share Posted November 24, 2020 (edited) Sometimes a guest driver helps (same household bubble)... My daughter has been in charge of the trains tonight and has chosen the ‘guest’ DPU and the Newcastle Boat Train. A new book arrived and I’m slowly digesting it. I’ve realised that I have got services mixed up. 23:45 Newcastle arriving at Stranraer Harbour 04:00. This would then provide the ECS for the 12:20 (lately 13:40) to Newcastle. The N.Irishman would then arrive after this at 05:23... Edited November 24, 2020 by danstercivicman 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 (edited) 21 hours ago, danstercivicman said: Sometimes a guest driver helps (same household bubble)... My daughter has been in charge of the trains tonight and has chosen the ‘guest’ DPU and the Newcastle Boat Train. A new book arrived and I’m slowly digesting it. I’ve realised that I have got services mixed up. 23:45 Newcastle arriving at Stranraer Harbour 04:00. This would then provide the ECS for the 12:20 (lately 13:40) to Newcastle. The N.Irishman would then arrive after this at 05:23... Expert driving by your "guest" Dan Regards, Brian. Edited November 25, 2020 by Brian D 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted December 2, 2020 Author Share Posted December 2, 2020 (edited) The Timetable has landed... one small step for me one giant leap for prototypical running! Although to be fair the legend that is Silver Sidelines has already assisted massively Edited December 2, 2020 by danstercivicman 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted December 2, 2020 Author Share Posted December 2, 2020 It has a nice full colour map at the back and also features: Daylight Service To and From Ireland! TSS Caledonian Princess 14:30 departure from Stranraer 16:45 arrival at Larne Connects to the Class 126 services to Glasgow. From St Enoch passengers can connect via the other Glasgow termi to Aberdeen, Perth Dundee and Stirling. The other daylight sailing departed Larne at 11:00 Arrival at Stranraer 13:15 This was a Monday-Saturday summer service! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted December 2, 2020 Author Share Posted December 2, 2020 Corkerhill’s 44957 prepares to take the 13:40 to Dumfries. It can’t be a Saturday as the service would run to Newcastle arriving at 18:37. This is my ex LMS Port Road 4 Coach Set + XP Van. The Class 126 (to be built- Silver Fox Kit has arrived) would have preceded this at 13:30 but would have diverged at Challoch Junction to Glasgow St Enoch 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted December 3, 2020 Author Share Posted December 3, 2020 In hindsight this is probably a better platform arrangement! The 13:30 DMU to Glasgow St Enoch in Platform 2 The 13:40 Dumfries Port Road Stopper in Platform 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Sidelines Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 23 hours ago, danstercivicman said: Corkerhill’s 44957 prepares to take the 13:40 to Dumfries. It can’t be a Saturday as the service would run to Newcastle arriving at 18:37. This is my ex LMS Port Road 4 Coach Set + XP Van. Looking good, remind me why it cannot be the train for Newcastle, Was there a Friday night train from Newcastle with Gresley stock that had to be returned to the north east on the Saturday. Leaving Stranraer it would still have had an ex LMS engine which would have had to come off at Carlisle. Ray 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted December 3, 2020 Author Share Posted December 3, 2020 (edited) Well it’s abit strange. Table 8 in the 1964 timetable has E, Z and W. E- everyday except Sat Z- also runs on Sat until 4th July inclusive W- Saturdays only commences 11th July. TC to Newcastle arr 18:37 (Larne Stranraer Boat Train) I was therefore going to save the eastern region rake for the Saturday service? This would allow me to return the stock that arrived at 04:00 hrs from the 23:45 (Friday) from Newcastle on Saturdays. The Saturday 09:32am from Newcastle which passed Dumfries at 12:01 and arrived at Stranraer at 14:06 would then become the stock for the 21:30 Larne-Stranraer Boat Train which arrived at Newcastle at 02:28 am on Sundays. I have read that ex-LMS stock needed an adapter to LNER/BR stock so my rake is: ER Set 1 BR MK.1 BCK BR MK.1 TSO x 2 BR MK.1 BSK Gresley 61ft Third Gresley BTK ER Set 2 Thompson 63ft BTK or BCK (can’t remember which) Thompson CK 59ft? Thompson 63ft TK? BR MK.1 TSO BR MK.1 CK BR MK.1 BSK Yes an ex LMS/BR engine to Carlisle. In in my case I’d be using a 6P Jubilee or 5MT Edited December 3, 2020 by danstercivicman 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Sidelines Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 1 hour ago, danstercivicman said: This would allow me to return the stock that arrived at 04:00 hrs from the 23:45 (Friday) from Newcastle on Saturdays. The Saturday 09:32am from Newcastle which passed Dumfries at 12:01 and arrived at Stranraer at 14:06 would then become the stock for the 21:30 Larne-Stranraer Boat Train which arrived at Newcastle at 02:28 am on Sundays. I I am not knowing - but might there be two rakes which changed over at the weekend to allow one to be cleaned and serviced? You are correct, all sorts of adaptors to fit ex LNER coaches to Mk1s. I do believe there were similar issues when the MetroCammel Pullmans were introduced and had to be topped and tailed with older Pullmans or Gresley BGs. Cheers Ray Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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