danstercivicman Posted January 19, 2019 Author Share Posted January 19, 2019 The bulk of track cutting is done... I decided to see how it would look with a seven coach train in place... Enjoy Tomorrow’s job is to solder all the stock rails together for reliability 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted January 19, 2019 Author Share Posted January 19, 2019 I am worried about being able to make the 180 degree turn in 1600mm!!!! Anyone able to work out if 915, 762, 610, 610, 762, 915 will work?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted January 20, 2019 Author Share Posted January 20, 2019 The soldering has now become a job for Monday! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
auxie22 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Hi Dan, you can do 180 degrees in 1200mm with 2nd radius as long as it isn't scenic.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted January 21, 2019 Author Share Posted January 21, 2019 Hi Dan, you can do 180 degrees in 1200mm with 2nd radius as long as it isn't scenic.. Ok cool, Yeah, thankfully the lowest I’ll go is 610mm which is above 4th radius I think Yup definately non scenic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted January 21, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 21, 2019 Ok cool, Yeah, thankfully the lowest I’ll go is 610mm which is above 4th radius I think Yup definately non scenic 610mm is only a problem with kitbuilt locos. Anything r-t-r should be fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted January 21, 2019 Author Share Posted January 21, 2019 Good stuff I’m hoping 762mm will be the tightest... Just soldering the stock rails on the turnouts... gosh what a task! Shame Peco didn’t do it 610mm is only a problem with kitbuilt locos. Anything r-t-r should be fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted January 21, 2019 Author Share Posted January 21, 2019 (edited) Wiring and the running of the first train! Well it’s prohressing! I decided I needed to test the concept. Out came the Heljan Class 128 DPU which is silky smooth Yes I know it prob never made it to Stranraer... I may have to go to 610mm after all in the curve Edited January 21, 2019 by danstercivicman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted January 22, 2019 Author Share Posted January 22, 2019 More testing tonight! The ivatt 4MT which struggled with the medium radius points on my minories layout-no issues with the peco large radius! Likewise a four coach rake of Bachmann MK 1’s propelled and pulled through the points no issues What’s more impressive is the same Ivatt that used to struggle on my old layouts comfortably hauled seven coaches! Now I know I haven’t added the curve section but I’m pleased so far. More bracing is needed for the boards and insulation is needed for the loft space-it’s cold! Enjoy! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted January 23, 2019 Author Share Posted January 23, 2019 A quick trip to the screw fixing place saw some insulated roof material... very easy to fit! I still need to tape the seams but if it makes the loft bearable and protects the precious cargo then it’s worth it! 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted February 1, 2019 Author Share Posted February 1, 2019 Glad RMWEB is back I invested in a copy of ‘The Port Road’ by Andrew P Swan. An excellent book. Makes me think I can do with more of the freight side at the Harbour (milk, parcels and cattle). 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Legend Posted February 1, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 1, 2019 1 hour ago, danstercivicman said: Glad RMWEB is back I invested in a copy of ‘The Port Road’ by Andrew P Swan. An excellent book. Makes me think I can do with more of the freight side at the Harbour (milk, parcels and cattle). You’ve put me in the notion. Hopefully Douglas Blades will have a copy at tomorrow’s Irvine exhibition and I can have a browse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckymucklebackit Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 On 2/1/2019 at 4:24 PM, danstercivicman said: Glad RMWEB is back I invested in a copy of ‘The Port Road’ by Andrew P Swan. An excellent book. Makes me think I can do with more of the freight side at the Harbour (milk, parcels and cattle). I would be interested to see how much was actually handled at the harbour station as opposed to the Town station, the Town station had a much larger yard. In later years steel traffic for Ireland was unloaded there. Jim 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted February 3, 2019 Author Share Posted February 3, 2019 There’s not many pictures of the Harbour but here’s my thoughts: 1) parcels at Harbour and perishables direct from the boat into vans. There were five roads (tracks) at the end of the pier 2) cattle from the boat to the cattle dock towards the land side of the pier (again st harbour station) 3) ferry fuel oil at the pier 4) milk from road tankers off the boat- here I am not sure whether they would have driven to the town goods yard or loaded on the pier 5) at some point bunkerage/coal would have been required for the coal fired ships. 6) the book also alluded to fish traffic before my period at the lairage? Whatever one of them or wherever that was? Thats my thoughts anyway. I can’t prove it but I’m planning: 1) cattle dock 2) van/parcels at the pier end 3) milk tankers from the boat to fill up milk wagons in the sidings 4) perishable produce direct from boat to waiting vans I think my layout needs to move to 1961 as by 1965 much of this traffic probably died out? It’s not cheap but it’s good, especially as it captures all the local branch lines... Milk appears to have been big in the fifties with lorries hailing it across the sea on the ferry then pumping it into the milk tankers. This has made me think of expanding the harbour side somewhat... I’ve had it all working but now I’ve added the geographic control panel things have gone wrong eek! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted February 4, 2019 Author Share Posted February 4, 2019 Not much happened over the weekend except that the control panel is all wired up except for the sidings and head shunts at the pier end. I’ve been testing the track work and locos. The elderly Bachmann Jubilee has had weight added. It’s not a smooth operator but it does pull the seven coach UP Northern Irishman. Elsewhere a STD 5MT has brought in the Larne Boat Train and a 4MT Tank waits to depart with a local. The Crab (they appear to have been common on the line) is at the head of the UP parcels which will depart after the Irishman. Of course the fiddleyard boards are not completed so I’m basically shunting stock backwards and forwards! Next stage will be to add the corner boards and fiddle yard. 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ian Smeeton Posted February 4, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 4, 2019 hunting around for something else, I came across this: http://www.bluebell-railway-museum.co.uk/archive/photos/jjs/b08/8-66-6.htm Just to prove that Jubilees got to Stranraer. Regards Ian 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted February 4, 2019 Author Share Posted February 4, 2019 They did indeed and were fairly common along with the 6MT Clans Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted February 7, 2019 Author Share Posted February 7, 2019 Looking into more books and building up stock... I now have the following locos which worked on the lime: Crab 42919 Crab 42789 I need to renumber: Black Five 44781 to 44789 BR STD MT 73068 to 73079 My other locos are: STD 4MT 2-6-4T Ivatt 4MT 2-6-0 Jubilee 45596 Bahamas The glaring gap is: Clan Class 6MT I think another Black Five would be helpful along with a further Jubilee The Clan though is the main sticking point... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Sidelines Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 The sticking point - the Clan or the bank loan to buy it! Cheers Ray Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 Just found your latest layout thread (I must be slipping) - now following. Looking good so far. Regards, Brian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted February 7, 2019 Author Share Posted February 7, 2019 27 minutes ago, Silver Sidelines said: The sticking point - the Clan or the bank loan to buy it! Cheers Ray That’s the sticking point... 1) finding one 2) remortgaging to afford it... It’s crazy the loco prices and availability... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted February 7, 2019 Author Share Posted February 7, 2019 8 minutes ago, Brian D said: Just found your latest layout thread (I must be slipping) - now following. Looking good so far. Regards, Brian. Cheers progress will be steady but slow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted February 7, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 7, 2019 On 04/02/2019 at 10:57, danstercivicman said: Not much happened over the weekend except that the control panel is all wired up except for the sidings and head shunts at the pier end. I’ve been testing the track work and locos. The elderly Bachmann Jubilee has had weight added. It’s not a smooth operator but it does pull the seven coach UP Northern Irishman. Elsewhere a STD 5MT has brought in the Larne Boat Train and a 4MT Tank waits to depart with a local. The Crab (they appear to have been common on the line) is at the head of the UP parcels which will depart after the Irishman. Of course the fiddleyard boards are not completed so I’m basically shunting stock backwards and forwards! Next stage will be to add the corner boards and fiddle yard. Hi Dan So it works, wonderful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted February 7, 2019 Author Share Posted February 7, 2019 It does indeed Thanks very much for the help I just need to wire the last two feeds and the final four isolated sections and it will be fully live. Still need to do the U section and the fiddleyard boards (out of funds)... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted February 7, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 7, 2019 There are means of fund raising, selling off a few household items, but I understand the wife and kids cannot be sold through E-bay anymore. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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