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5 hours ago, woodenhead said:

it is of course the 1970s and rock was big especially in Birmingham.

Heavy rock: one of Birmingham’s (or the West Midlands’) three major cultural gifts to the world.

Shakespeare (SoA was in Warwickshire, and more important than Bromwicham at the time) who definitely used the accent for some of his cruder jokes. 
And pork scratchings, at least in the commercialised format…

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23 hours ago, woodenhead said:

Why is there a man sat between the junction - is that a chair or a wheelchair?

 

Possibly a welder,  rather than doing the job on hands and knees.

 

Or could just be P/way resting the legs while the train passes. 

 

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4 hours ago, SM42 said:

 

Possibly a welder,  rather than doing the job on hands and knees.

 

Or could just be P/way resting the legs while the train passes. 

 

Andy

 

Yes my thoughts were probably a welder they often had chairs with them  or alternatively he may just be sat on a sleeper 

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4 hours ago, montyburns56 said:

 

Damn those sneaky Class 24s and their cunning disguises!

 

Didn't like to mention it ....but there's also one sneaked into the Class 26 photo thread ! :rolleyes:

(p.9 Aug 7 ....but not by you Monty.)

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On 02/10/2021 at 11:38, Rugd1022 said:

Photos by Ben Darby : Bordersley Junction in the late '70s with a local Rat taking the line round to Small Heath and beyond....

 

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Look at that, a pristine mineral wagon - with the neatest number panel I've ever seen! Somebody took pride in that, what a shame it wouldn't have lasted very long......!:mosking:

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I do recall thinking in pedant mode at the time that it should have been "Two locomotives destroy buffer stops in shunting incident" but who am I to destroy "good journalism"?!  20220113_232227.jpg.3d92a2e65bfd6eac397ad58a85c72b5a.jpg

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3 hours ago, montyburns56 said:

Guide Bridge 1971 by Derek J Jones

 

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Other interest in the photo:

On the left is a train of ICI hoppers. Why would they be at Guide Bridge?

Three what appear to be refrigerated ferry wagons in the train.

On the left a still-intact water crane, three years after the end of BR steam.

 

As this photo is half a century old (!) now and Guide Bridge is much changed, is this the western end that we are looking at and the train would be coming off the Stockport line?  The headcode would certainly indicate an eastbound train.

 

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9 hours ago, DavidLong said:

 

Other interest in the photo:

On the left is a train of ICI hoppers. Why would they be at Guide Bridge?

Three what appear to be refrigerated ferry wagons in the train.

On the left a still-intact water crane, three years after the end of BR steam.

 

As this photo is half a century old (!) now and Guide Bridge is much changed, is this the western end that we are looking at and the train would be coming off the Stockport line?  The headcode would certainly indicate an eastbound train.

 

David

 

I believe the ICI wagons were en route from Tunstead to Northwich with limestone and the Class 25 was leaving the Stockport line heading EB. I use to spend quite a bit of time in the early 80's at Guide Bridge, always something interesting passing through. 

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53 minutes ago, jcarta said:

 

I believe the ICI wagons were en route from Tunstead to Northwich with limestone and the Class 25 was leaving the Stockport line heading EB. I use to spend quite a bit of time in the early 80's at Guide Bridge, always something interesting passing through. 

 

Tunstead is in Derbyshire and the Northwich trains usually progress across South Manchester, hence why I am puzzled as to why those wagons would be at Guide Bridge.

 

Thanks for confirmation of the view. 

 

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I couldn't quite remember the exact route but I just found this on the Derby Sulzers website (it's for the empties but loadeds just did the reverse):

"The Lostock Works, north-east of the station accessed the main line via Northwich yard. The limestone empties would then head east and follow the route through Altrincham to Deansgate Junction and Skelton Junction. The route continued through Northenden and Cheadle, beyond which the trains would take the former Midland Railway route towards Hazel Grove and the lengthy Disley Tunnel. After New Mills South Junction came Chinley then Chinley North & South Junctions. After a short distance came the lengthy Dove Holes Tunnel, the deep cutting at the south (east) end was followed by the site of Peak Forest station and then the quarries and works located at Tunstead and Great Rocks."

 

David

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I think that I have found the answer to my own question, again from derbysulzers :

 

"During 1968 a new terminal was established by Quickmix Concrete Co. Ltd at Thorpes Bridge Junction (opposite Newton Heath depot), roadstone was supplied from Tunstead in the ICI bogie hoppers. Additional terminals were later opened by Tilcon at Collyhurst Street, Miles Platting and Portwood, Stockport. The latter location was impacted by the construction of the M63 and moved to Bredbury, Stockport. These traffic flows ended in the early 1990s."

 

Apart from Stockport, all these depots are in East Manchester and would account for the wagons being at Guide Bridge as part of the journey to one of these depots. 

 

https://www.derbysulzers.com/5274.html

 

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10 hours ago, DavidLong said:

I think that I have found the answer to my own question, again from derbysulzers :

 

"During 1968 a new terminal was established by Quickmix Concrete Co. Ltd at Thorpes Bridge Junction (opposite Newton Heath depot), roadstone was supplied from Tunstead in the ICI bogie hoppers. Additional terminals were later opened by Tilcon at Collyhurst Street, Miles Platting and Portwood, Stockport. The latter location was impacted by the construction of the M63 and moved to Bredbury, Stockport. These traffic flows ended in the early 1990s."

 

Apart from Stockport, all these depots are in East Manchester and would account for the wagons being at Guide Bridge as part of the journey to one of these depots. 

 

https://www.derbysulzers.com/5274.html

 

David

 

I actually took a picture of the abandoned stone terminal at Portwood in the 90s.

 

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