Damo666 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 I am sure I read a release from ESU themselves about the new “HiFi” quality sound decoder. But will it have greater memory ??? Have a look at the quote under the picture in post #427 on the thread. Hope this answers some questions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium boxbrownie Posted January 11, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 11, 2019 Little over a year ago , the now ancient V3.5 was still selling for around £100 ! on ebay and they were second-hand ! The mind boggles ! Interesting, because on this forum somewhere quite recently somebody enquired about a cheaper decoder and one of the well known suppliers offered a blown V3.5 for £55 brand new, unfortunately I cannot find the thread right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penrhos1920 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Will v5 mean that we can have steam locos that chuff real hard going up hill without accelerating and them don't chuff at all when they go down hill? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albie the plumber Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 Interesting, because on this forum somewhere quite recently somebody enquired about a cheaper decoder and one of the well known suppliers offered a blown V3.5 for £55 brand new, unfortunately I cannot find the thread right n Think it might have been Charlie at DC Kits .. You can find them on sale for around £65/£70 but that's only been about a year Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauliebanger Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 Will v5 mean that we can have steam locos that chuff real hard going up hill without accelerating and them don't chuff at all when they go down hill? No less possible than with current Lok v4.0, (or ZIMO) but just as dependent upon a good sound project being loaded and the operator knowing what's what. Best regards, Paul 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted January 12, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 12, 2019 (edited) Will v5 mean that we can have steam locos that chuff real hard going up hill without accelerating and them don't chuff at all when they go down hill? No less possible than with current Lok v4.0, (or ZIMO) but just as dependent upon a good sound project being loaded and the operator knowing what's what. Best regards, Paul As Paul notes it's been possible for ages but most projects haven't had 'sound of power' switched on. With a lokprogrammer it's easy enough to switch on the load control and they also have a function that can be set to switch on the same sound of power for long uphill gradients if you want even more emphasis. The only thing lacking on the ESU chips was a truly separate brake, that is there with Zimo, so you can set large deceleration values and slow trains just on the brake. I haven't seen the specs for the V5 yet but I'm hopeful this will be one of the upgrades from this quote "uniquely flexible ESU function mapping. Three new, individually adjustable brake controls, as well as a two-stage heavy-load simulation" Edited January 12, 2019 by PaulRhB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tarifa Posted January 12, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 12, 2019 The brake is already on ESU and has been for quite a while, its on most legomanbiffo projects and can be added to others easily with a lokprogrammer. Richard I believe the sound files are needed to add the independent brake files to the programme, then it is a matter of allocating a F key. Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiggy1 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 I believe the sound files are needed to add the independent brake files to the programme, then it is a matter of allocating a F key. Mike Correct. You need the independent brake file (with or without sound in it) to use the braking on a F button. So you need the created sound project to add it to it. Wiggy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamburger Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Correct, but some people confuse brake with independent brake. both are different. Brake function means harder braking if throttle is being reduced. ESU calls it dynamic brake since the V3.5. Independent brake function means braking independent of throttle position. Only the latter requires a file with or without sound, normal brake can be added by CV programming. If brake squeal shall occur only when throttle is at zero you dont need an extra brake sound. Wolf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Andy7 Posted January 14, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 14, 2019 Does anyone know the rrp of the soon to be released V5? I ask as it would appear to me that supply of the V4 has dried up and wondering if it’s worth getting a couple of V4’s at what might be perceived to be a cheap price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiggy1 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 (edited) Does anyone know the rrp of the soon to be released V5? I ask as it would appear to me that supply of the V4 has dried up and wondering if it’s worth getting a couple of V4’s at what might be perceived to be a cheap price. Should be the same as the v4 standard decoder and micro's slightly dearer. Wiggy. Edited January 14, 2019 by wiggy1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiggy1 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Which is this one? this is what I have added to a few and it works the same way as the braking function on Legomanbiffo decoders. The braking time can be adjusted in a separate page. It can be set on any function, I usually use 5, and the deceleration is noticeably quicker when 5 is pressed. Screen Shot 2019-01-14 at 20.50.18.png Screen Shot 2019-01-14 at 20.50.54.png Richard Thats Dynamic braking not independant. All most the same but if it works and you are OK with it then thats fine. Wiggy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Andy7 Posted January 14, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 14, 2019 Should be the same as the v4 standard decoder and micro's slightly dearer. Wiggy. Thanks. Wonder when they will be available from legomanbiffo with updated sounds. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dungrange Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Are there any details on how many non-sound functions these V5 decoders will have? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Andy7 Posted January 14, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 14, 2019 Should be the same as the v4 standard decoder and micro's slightly dearer. Wiggy. My above reply was to this post but every word has since been changed! I’m wondering what your reason for this is Wiggy? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiggy1 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 My above reply was to this post but every word has since been changed! I’m wondering what your reason for this is Wiggy? No reason just reedited it to keep it simple. Wiggy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tarifa Posted January 15, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 15, 2019 Which is this one? this is what I have added to a few and it works the same way as the braking function on Legomanbiffo decoders. The braking time can be adjusted in a separate page. It can be set on any function, I usually use 5, and the deceleration is noticeably quicker when 5 is pressed. Screen Shot 2019-01-14 at 20.50.18.png Screen Shot 2019-01-14 at 20.50.54.png Richard Richard, I don't have Bifs decoders but I'm pretty certain there would be sound slots for both the dynamic and independent brake in his programmes and would be allocated a F key. Most applications of brake squeal apply when the loco comes to a stop and again has a sound slot. Not all locos have dynamic braking, DB applies to the traction motors where applicable and slows the train down to idle when the function key is applied and speeds up on release. Its worth checking the prototype for a particular model. Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliepetty Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Thanks. Wonder when they will be available from legomanbiffo with updated sounds. With a range of 50+ decoders to do, let us say 30 hours per new project to suit V5's then with a calculator work out the time taken to get them done.!!!!!!!!!! New upgrades will be done on the range as time permits. Charlie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigelcliffe Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 With a range of 50+ decoders to do, let us say 30 hours per new project to suit V5's then with a calculator work out the time taken to get them done.!!!!!!!!!! New upgrades will be done on the range as time permits. Why don't you clone Biff and get them finished quicker ;-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliepetty Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Why don't you clone Biff and get them finished quicker ;-) CLONE HIM !!!! Its enough having one! You don't have to work with him. Charlie 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tractor_37260 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 (edited) CLONE HIM !!!! Its enough having one! You don't have to work with him. Charlie Em - you sure you've not got that the wrong way round ! Edited January 15, 2019 by tractor_37260 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
40034_Nick Posted January 16, 2019 Author Share Posted January 16, 2019 Em - you sure you've not got that the wrong way round ! i Agree.. But we do love Goby charlie.. Funny watching him at shows.. Love you Charlie !!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perfect Paul Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 (edited) i Agree.. But we do love Goby charlie.. Funny watching him at shows.. Love you Charlie !!!! Sometimes he pauses for breath !!! A very knowledgeable man, and very trustworthy and helpful indeed. I've never gone wrong when I have followed his advice. Usual disclaimer etc. Edited January 16, 2019 by Perfect Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliepetty Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 (edited) Does anyone know the rrp of the soon to be released V5? I ask as it would appear to me that supply of the V4 has dried up and wondering if it’s worth getting a couple of V4’s at what might be perceived to be a cheap price. Unless Brexit cocks up the value of the pound there should be no increases except on the new Micro's. Charlie (Legomanbiffo) Edited January 16, 2019 by charliepetty Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
two tone green Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 The L version is going up in price Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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