Hamburger Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 The L version is going up in price Right. Unfortunately also the XL5 But the 'normal' decoders will have a better value because instead of the (in my personal opinion) dubious 23mm speaker now a sugarcube speaker is included. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliepetty Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Right. Unfortunately also the XL5 But the 'normal' decoders will have a better value because instead of the (in my personal opinion) dubious 23mm speaker now a sugarcube speaker is included. As I said before, currently with the Euro-Pound rate as it is today, the only decoders going up is the Micro Decoder, obviously IF the Pound collapses then everything will go up, Bachmann, Hornby, ESU, Zimo, Lenz etc, etc. On the current range of V4 Decoders we have always supplied the 20mm X 40mm Speaker at extra cost too us, as we agree the 23mm round unsealed is poor. Sadly I am amazed the number of customers who still fit unsealed speakers. In conclusuion, based on what we currently know the Micro is the only one to increase. Charlie at DCKits/Legomanbiffo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoingUnderground Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 The manual for the LS V5 is available for download from the ESU website, but as yet only in German. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesteambuff Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 I wonder if the Deltic with the 2 speakers will be as good as the EM2 speaker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliepetty Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 I wonder if the Deltic with the 2 speakers will be as good as the EM2 speaker. Which Deltic are we talking about? Charlie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold McC Posted January 25, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 25, 2019 I wonder if the Deltic with the 2 speakers will be as good as the EM2 speaker. The plan is much better Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium boxbrownie Posted January 25, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 25, 2019 The plan is much better Stop it!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul80 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Hi Anyone know if this V5 will be available in a 6pin direct fit version which the V4 never was Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamburger Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Hi Anyone know if this V5 will be available in a 6pin direct fit version which the V4 never was Thanks Hi Paul, the normal V5 has a 6-pin harness. The micro5 is being supplied with Next18 interface as a standard plus flexible 'foil' adapters which can be folded over (or under) the chip which give an overall length including pins of less than 30 mils. Wolf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamburger Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 LokProgrammer Software 5.0.0 is out now! http://www.esu.eu/en/downloads/software/lokprogrammer/ 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
40034_Nick Posted January 26, 2019 Author Share Posted January 26, 2019 (edited) LokProgrammer Software 5.0.0 is out now! http://www.esu.eu/en/downloads/software/lokprogrammer/ Wunderbar !! It works well.. Just doesnt let you update from version 4 (In my case anyway). So you have to download and install 5.. It also leaves V4 installed and doesnt overwrite it, so you have both versions installed on your PC.. Edited January 26, 2019 by 40034_Nick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andymsa Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 Wunderbar !! It works well.. Just doesnt let you update from version 4 (In my case anyway). So you have to download and install 5.. It also leaves V4 installed and doesnt overwrite it, so you have both versions installed on your PC.. Will version 5 programmer program v4 chips still? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NoggintheNog Posted January 26, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 26, 2019 First industry acknowledgement I've seen. US manufacturer Scaletrains has just sent out a notice that all factory sound fits will now come with V5 at no extra cost. https://www.scaletrains.com/blogs/company-news/rivet-counter-ho-locomotives-now-with-esu-5-0-dcc-sound-decoders? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
legomanbiffo Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 Will version 5 programmer program v4 chips still? Yes it will, and v3.5’s as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoingUnderground Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 The release noted for LP 5 contimue on from those for LP 4.7.2 implyimg it is a continuation of 4.7.2 as opposed to a completely new piece of software. ESU have said in their 2019 highlights e-booklet that LS4 decoders will not be available after February. But inevitably there will be some dealers with stock beyond Feb. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gridwatcher Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 On 1/7/2019 at 8:54 PM, Albie the plumber said: But will it have greater memory ??? Yes. Almost more than it really needs but allows a lot of interesting options and higher sound quality. Will be standard in Accurascale sound fitted Deltics 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm81 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 On 14/01/2019 at 22:33, Dungrange said: Are there any details on how many non-sound functions these V5 decoders will have? If I’m reading the manual right, 8 plus two logic level so 10 in total. At least on the 21pin MTC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted August 27, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 27, 2019 6 minutes ago, Norm81 said: If I’m reading the manual right, 8 plus two logic level so 10 in total. At least on the 21pin MTC. There is the capability for full power on: Front light/rear light, and up to AUX1-8 (so 10 in total) using the rear solder pads for AUX3-8 Note that you get 4 or 6 full power outputs on the 21 pin connector depending upon the decoder type. 58419 and 58429 have four FL/RL/AUX1-2. (FL/RL are headlight and rear light on the diagram above) 58449 (or 21MKL) has six. FL/RL/AUX1-4 AUX 9/10 that can be configured as inputs/logic outputs or power pack control. Finally AUX 11/12 as logic outputs - but can be configured for SUSI data or servo control So - possibly 14 outputs in total! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm81 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 1 minute ago, newbryford said: There is the capability for full power on: Front light/rear light, and up to AUX1-8 (so 10 in total) using the rear solder pads for AUX3-8 Note that you get 4 or 6 full power outputs on the 21 pin connector depending upon the decoder type. 58419 and 58429 have four FL/RL/AUX1-2. (FL/RL are headlight and rear light on the diagram above) 58449 (or 21MKL) has six. FL/RL/AUX1-4 AUX 9/10 that can be configured as inputs/logic outputs or power pack control. Finally AUX 11/12 as logic outputs - but can be configured for SUSI data or servo control So - possibly 14 outputs in total! That’s me getting one for my Class 60, getting some new light boards knocked up for individual LED control to do proper day/night, with and without rears and all the other prototypical combinations (there’s a thread I posted somewhere with them listed). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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