Phlogiston Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 This is a superb evocation of the declining days of British Railways branch lines. Are you able to say what future shows you might take this layout to? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johndc120 Posted July 15, 2019 Author Share Posted July 15, 2019 On 06/07/2019 at 20:20, Danemouth said: Saw Shwt at the Penarth Show and was really impressed - in particular it was well lit with nicely balanced lighting - unlike most layouts at the show which relied on the hall lighting. Why do people build good layouts and then don't both lighting them properly? Dave On 08/07/2019 at 10:11, tomparryharry said: I got to see (admire) the layout on Sunday last. Very impressive, with lots of attention o detail. On 08/07/2019 at 15:14, The Johnster said: I also saw it at Penarth, and was very impressed; we are in NHY territory here. Attention to detail is superb, as is the general colouring and weathering, and I will be copying the lighting rig for Cwmdimbath. It worked perfectly as well. Thnaks Guys, I'm really glad it didn't disappoint. I totally agree Dave, I've seen so many fantastic layouts over the years spoilt with rubbish lighting. I know someone who is a stage lighting designer and this lighting frame is based on her rough suggestions, the first thing is the colour temperature. You're looking for a white light with around 5000K to 5500K which gives a lovely natural daylight look to the layout. Warm white is <4700K and it looks quite yellow. Cool white is >6000K which can look very blue (especially in a hall with sodium lighting). Our design has 2 rows of diffused lights to eliminated shadowing, the first row is right at the front to catch any shadows coming forward and the second row is just beyond half way back to give an even coverage over the whole layout. Thanks John 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johndc120 Posted July 15, 2019 Author Share Posted July 15, 2019 On 08/07/2019 at 17:03, Phlogiston said: This is a superb evocation of the declining days of British Railways branch lines. Are you able to say what future shows you might take this layout to? Thank you Roger, it's an unusual subject to model. Hopefully we've depicted it well. The current shows we're booked into are Swansea Doncaster Bracknell EM expo Wakefield EM expo Alton also planned in but not confirmed are Alexandra palace Taunton Cardiff John 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted July 15, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Johndc120 said: Taunton May I enquire which Taunton show that might be, please John? 1 hour ago, Johndc120 said: Cardiff May I also enquire which Cardiff show that would be, please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johndc120 Posted July 15, 2019 Author Share Posted July 15, 2019 15 minutes ago, Captain Kernow said: May I enquire which Taunton show that might be, please John? May I also enquire which Cardiff show that would be, please? Certainly, the issue I've got at the moment, my current layout bicsdale is booked into rail-ex Taunton this year and Cardiff main show next year and they clash so Shwt will likely end up at Railex Taunton October 2021 and Cardiff October 2022. this is the downside of having 2 layouts on the go! haha John 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted July 15, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 15, 2019 3 hours ago, Johndc120 said: Thnaks Guys, I'm really glad it didn't disappoint. I totally agree Dave, I've seen so many fantastic layouts over the years spoilt with rubbish lighting. I know someone who is a stage lighting designer and this lighting frame is based on her rough suggestions, the first thing is the colour temperature. You're looking for a white light with around 5000K to 5500K which gives a lovely natural daylight look to the layout. Warm white is <4700K and it looks quite yellow. Cool white is >6000K which can look very blue (especially in a hall with sodium lighting). Our design has 2 rows of diffused lights to eliminated shadowing, the first row is right at the front to catch any shadows coming forward and the second row is just beyond half way back to give an even coverage over the whole layout. Thanks John That's very helpful info with regard to the effect on the layout lighting of the sodium tubes often found in leisure centre gyms. For a layout operated from the front, I think it is a good idea to have cover over the layout so that nearly all of the lighting effects on the layout are under control of the layout builder. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gismorail Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Now here's a layout with loads of atmosphere indeed so life like and depicting a real run down scene so evocative of how many branch lines ended their useful life .....can't believe I've only just found this thread ...wonderful thanks for sharing you excellent work 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold jamest Posted August 5, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 5, 2019 (edited) Hi, I'd love to see this in Taunton - I did not know you owned Bicsdale too! I've liked that layout since I saw it in a special layout compilation magazine (was it model rail?) - I see it is in your avatar picture now I'm looking properly! - I got to see it in the flesh at Minehead last weekend - very good it was too! All the best, James Edited August 5, 2019 by jamest 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johndc120 Posted August 11, 2019 Author Share Posted August 11, 2019 On 05/08/2019 at 13:08, jamest said: Hi, I'd love to see this in Taunton - I did not know you owned Bicsdale too! I've liked that layout since I saw it in a special layout compilation magazine (was it model rail?) - I see it is in your avatar picture now I'm looking properly! - I got to see it in the flesh at Minehead last weekend - very good it was too! All the best, James Well fingers crossed for 2021 for Taunton, I know the organiser wanted to speak to me about it when we’re there exhibiting Bicsdale in October. Yes Bicsdale was completed a few years ago now and it was in Model Rail’s ‘great british model railways’ mag. I know it’s only a shunting puzzle but it keeps us busy and the brain cells active! I’m glad you liked it, it can be a bit of a marmite layout good to meet you and look forward to catching up again soon John 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johndc120 Posted August 11, 2019 Author Share Posted August 11, 2019 Although we had a good first outing with Shwt, we had a few things that didn't work perfectly The main one was the our virtual control panel wasn’t working correctly, so after a rethink, hopefully we’ve designed out some of the bugs. This is the new Panel, we now have individual point buttons and route buttons. If you press the route button required, the system will automatically press the right point button and illuminate the route set in blue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 5BarVT Posted August 11, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 11, 2019 I like that. Only 4 possible routes and an aide memoir to check if the points have followed the command. (I assume a Mk1 eyeball WKR). Although I have never seen Mr Ds IECC lookalike, I’m wondering if your screens have a linked pedigree? Paul. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johndc120 Posted August 12, 2019 Author Share Posted August 12, 2019 18 hours ago, 5BarVT said: I like that. Only 4 possible routes and an aide memoir to check if the points have followed the command. (I assume a Mk1 eyeball WKR). Although I have never seen Mr Ds IECC lookalike, I’m wondering if your screens have a linked pedigree? Paul. Hi Paul, Yes nice and simple, how we like it! I could do a sort of point detection but for the expense I don't it'll ever be worth it. On the whole it's generally pretty reliable, the only problem we found is where you'd change 4 points all in 1 go, it would occasionally miss one so you just could rely on the route setting. I've designed in a time delay now so no points are thrown together. I've seen pictures of his IECC and I guess our common knowledge has meant they look very similar although on completely different developments John 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johndc120 Posted September 6, 2019 Author Share Posted September 6, 2019 Spent this morning cleaning all the locos ready for it’s outing later this month. This will be one of a few times Shwt will be out alongside the previous layout ‘Bicsdale’. Will be fun for is keeping 2 layouts running! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johndc120 Posted January 3, 2020 Author Share Posted January 3, 2020 Not much has happened on Shwt over the last few months as it's been in storage, although it came out briefly for the EM gauge Society's AGM event which was local. How ever with Doncaster model railway show coming up it's time o get on with loading some of our open wagons A sheet over the high fit made for a quick job Brass tubes placed in the tube wagon, these will be painted in red oxide. The open wagon behind I have got crates coming to fill it Mixed goods in the Medfit wagon, more sacks to be fitted when they arrive More barrels and pallets for the Ale Van, all to be painted once complete 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aire Head Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 4 hours ago, Johndc120 said: Not much has happened on Shwt over the last few months as it's been in storage, although it came out briefly for the EM gauge Society's AGM event which was local. How ever with Doncaster model railway show coming up it's time o get on with loading some of our open wagons A sheet over the high fit made for a quick job Brass tubes placed in the tube wagon, these will be painted in red oxide. The open wagon behind I have got crates coming to fill it Mixed goods in the Medfit wagon, more sacks to be fitted when they arrive More barrels and pallets for the Ale Van, all to be painted once complete How did you do the tarpaulin? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johndc120 Posted January 3, 2020 Author Share Posted January 3, 2020 I use smiths Tarps https://www.hamodels.net/roger-smith-4mm-tarpaulins.html the afvise I had which seemed to work well is scrunch it up first and then flatten it back out, it’s gives a well worn look to the tarp. Then just superglue in place 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Johndc120 Posted January 14, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted January 14, 2020 (edited) Ticking off this list of jobs ready for Doncaster model railway show at the start of next month. Last night’s task was the back scene which we originally wanted to leave in plain sky grey. After seeing people’s reactions and especially one person who asked ‘when are you going to finish the backscene?’ We thought we better had do something about it. I’m not that keen on photographic scenes as they can look great from some angles and then others look really false as you change your perspective. We gone for a fairly simple shaded scene which adds a little depth to the layout hopefully without detracting from it. None of us are artists but it seems to have come out okay If you are coming to Doncaster make sure you come and say hi to us on Stand 1 next to the BRM stand. Edited January 14, 2020 by Johndc120 18 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted January 14, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 14, 2020 Looking good John. Being a fan of plain backscene, I have to say I'm quite taken with yours. Top stuff. Rob. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Bogie Posted January 14, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 14, 2020 2 hours ago, Johndc120 said: None of us are artists . . . I think you sell yourself short there. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johndc120 Posted January 15, 2020 Author Share Posted January 15, 2020 Loads for the open wagons now finished. 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ian Smeeton Posted January 15, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 15, 2020 Would 'mixed loads' have been seen in open wagons? Each 'category' of load would have originated from a single factory or loading point, and apart from'sundries' in vans, I doubt that any transhipment would have taken place en route, or am I barking up the wrong tree? PS Congrats on a stunning layout Regards Ian 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted January 15, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 15, 2020 On 03/01/2020 at 19:48, Johndc120 said: I use smiths Tarps https://www.hamodels.net/roger-smith-4mm-tarpaulins.html the afvise I had which seemed to work well is scrunch it up first and then flatten it back out, it’s gives a well worn look to the tarp. Then just superglue in place You can do the same thing, scrunch it and then straighten it out, using aluminium foil, which then needs painting. I use this for non-railway tarps which have no numbering or lettering. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johndc120 Posted January 15, 2020 Author Share Posted January 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Ian Smeeton said: Would 'mixed loads' have been seen in open wagons? Each 'category' of load would have originated from a single factory or loading point, and apart from'sundries' in vans, I doubt that any transhipment would have taken place en route, or am I barking up the wrong tree? PS Congrats on a stunning layout Regards Ian Hi Ian, a lot of what you say is true, it would be more common to see single type loads in open wagons. However from the research I’ve done, if the loads were delivered to a railway goods shed for a small branch line destination, they would have an allocated vehicle to be dropped off. So they would have generally packed it all in the 1 wagon to do the journey. Also if the loader was a wholesaler sending produce or building supplies etc out to places then 1 complete order may have been loaded into 1 vehicle. thank you very much, glad you like it John 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johndc120 Posted January 22, 2020 Author Share Posted January 22, 2020 One of the last things to tick off prior to Doncaster has been a decent storage and transport case for the 22-RB crane and the 2 lorries. These are the only Items which aren’t attached to the layout 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johndc120 Posted January 29, 2020 Author Share Posted January 29, 2020 A little bit of history! This diagram is produced to the style of Cooke's books, it's shows the development and more recently the decline of Shwt 8 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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