RMweb Premium Sasquatch Posted January 17, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 17, 2019 (1-200b) First run of 2392 on NYMR at Deviation Jct 23-10-71 (T Ermel).jpg Shortly after arrival the P3 had its first run on the NYMR on 23rd October 1971, seen here leaving Grosmont tunnel with a mixed train in tow, including the NELPG's stores van. I believe this was an ex-Great Central Railway fish van - hopefully someone can confirm or otherwise Cheers Trevor Hard to tell from that angle but the left hand sliding door and wide planking would suggest so. No doubt the step boards were added as a necessity in view of it's new roll. Love the colour picture showing red lamps, con rods and lining on 2392! regards Shaun Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grosmont Jnc Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Some great pictures on here Trevor, I'm looking forward to seeing more! The Q6 picture going up the bank in the last set is definitely at Esk Valley - the last 2 coaches are on Esk Valley Viaduct and you can see Oak Tree House and Esk Valley Bank in the background. Joe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev52A Posted January 17, 2019 Author Share Posted January 17, 2019 Some great pictures on here Trevor, I'm looking forward to seeing more! The Q6 picture going up the bank in the last set is definitely at Esk Valley - the last 2 coaches are on Esk Valley Viaduct and you can see Oak Tree House and Esk Valley Bank in the background. Joe Thanks for confirming that, Joe. I think that was the only picture I ever took from that spot and I wasn't exactly sure of my bearings! I have amended the caption. Cheers Trevor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev52A Posted January 17, 2019 Author Share Posted January 17, 2019 1972 up next. On 28th May that year I took some shots with a 200mm lens on my 35mm camera for a 'different' feel … Bird's eye view of Grosmont with No 5 arriving, as the P3 waits in the loop on the right of the platform to take over The P3 gets to grips with the next departure, near Deviation signal box... ...and starts the 1 in 49 climb up to Goathland, with Esk Valley Cottages just visible behind the loco The P3 tops the bank and enters Goathland station, passing No 1 'Mirvale' in the opposite platform Trevor 17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev52A Posted January 18, 2019 Author Share Posted January 18, 2019 Four from August 1972 (sorry, didn't make a note of the exact date) when the P3 and No 29 were running... Portrait of No 29 at Grosmont between turns Another view from the top of the tunnel as the P3 departs Grosmont No 29 starts the 1 in 49 climb towards Goathland at Esk Valley, with NELPG stalwart and MNA photographer John Hunt looking out of the cab The weather had turned a bit damp as the P3 leans to the curve at Darnholme Up next - the line reopens to the public all the way to Pickering in 1973. And the first train is..? Cheers Trevor 16 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium New Haven Neil Posted January 18, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 18, 2019 I recall visiting one day and seeing a chap doing the lining on 29 as she was repainted green - in the tunnel at Grosmont of course, she was just in the station end. There was nothing running that day. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OOgaugeJaf Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 More now from 1970, this time the Bank Holiday weekend of 29th to 31st August, by which time the 'other' 'Lambton Tank' 0-6-2T (No 5) had arrived and the Q6 was running as LNER No 3395. (T0301a) 5+3395 Gld. 30-8-70 (T.Ermel) .jpg Prior to the provision of suitable buildings at Grosmont, the only covered accommodation on the line was Grosmont tunnel and locos were usually prepared for the day's activities at Goathland. Here No 5 and the Q6 are readied in the early morning light, with 'Salmon' also in steam in the centre (T0315a) 3395 dep. Grmt 29-8-70 (T.Ermel) .jpg 3395 sets off from Grosmont with No 5 on the adjacent platform (T0295aS) 3395 dep. Grmt. tunnel 31-8-70 (T.Ermel) .jpg A nice action shot of the Q6 blasting out of Grosmont tunnel (T0318a) 3395 dep Gld. 31-8-70 (T.Ermel).jpg 3395 departs Goathland for Ellerbeck. My favourite angle for a Q6, with the coupling rods nicely at the top. (T0311a) 5 at Gld. 29-8-70 (T.Ermel) .jpg No 5 at the same spot, with 'Salmon' on the right (T0317a) 3395 appr. Gld 30-8-70 (T.Ermel) .jpg 3395 approaches Goathland from Ellerbeck (T0310a) 3395 Grmt. 29-8-70 (T.Ermel) .jpg The Q6 takes water from a hosepipe at Grosmont… (T0298a) 3395 Grmt. 31-8-70 (T.Ermel) .jpg ...in front of an admiring audience Next up will be some views from 1971 Trevor It would be great to see No5 back. It’s been a long time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted January 21, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 21, 2019 Am I right in thinking 5 and 29 have never been in steam together since the mid 70s 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Flashheart Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 It'll also be good to see D5032 back. Rob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted January 21, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 21, 2019 It'll also be good to see D5032 back. Rob As that's lost its gangway doors would be nice to see it in blue or as 5061 is there copy the doors and put them back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold papagolfjuliet Posted January 22, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 22, 2019 Am I right in thinking 5 and 29 have never been in steam together since the mid 70s Not since the 1977 gala. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted January 22, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 22, 2019 Are there any plans for it to be restored? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium phil-b259 Posted January 22, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 22, 2019 1972 up next. On 28th May that year I took some shots with a 200mm lens on my 35mm camera for a 'different' feel … (T0358a) 5 arr. Grsmt from tunnel prob.28-5-72 (T.Ermel) .jpg Bird's eye view of Grosmont with No 5 arriving, as the P3 waits in the loop on the right of the platform to take over Interesting shot. There appears to be no physical separation between the BR and NYMR lines, no signalling and short platforms. It would be nice to take a picture of the current scene and compare.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Are there any plans for it to be restored? No 5 or 5061? According to the Lambton Trust No 5 is looking like it will be started once 29 has been returned to traffic. 5061 - not sure about that one at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNER4479 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 (edited) Interesting shot. There appears to be no physical separation between the BR and NYMR lines, no signalling and short platforms. It would be nice to take a picture of the current scene and compare.... Like this, you mean? (taken in August last year) Not quite the same viewpoint but clearly a very different track layout these days. The safety elves have intervened over the years... Great thread. Looking forward to more photos. Edited January 22, 2019 by LNER4479 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnauthorisedCinnamon Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 The Whitby line was re-laid on a tighter curve in the late 80s and the NYMR inherited what was left of the junction https://www.flickr.com/photos/75514026@N03/6854941166/ 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted January 22, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 22, 2019 No 5 or 5061? According to the Lambton Trust No 5 is looking like it will be started once 29 has been returned to traffic. 5061 - not sure about that one at all. I was on about number 5 I didn't realise 29 wasbout of traffic Ian McNally showed me some pictures of 5061 he was originally part of the owning group and it looked very sad I did quite a bit of work on that in the mid 90s. I believe its now owed by Andy Nichols outright haven't heard from him in years Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev52A Posted January 22, 2019 Author Share Posted January 22, 2019 Here are a few from 1973, the year the line opened to the public The first trains ran on 22nd April 1973 (Easter Sunday), and according to my notes the first departure from Grosmont that day was the 09.30 to Pickering. Steam workings operated between Grosmont and Goathland, so that first train to operate over the entire route was formed by a 3-coach DMU on hire from BR! (I had forgotten about that until I delved into my old photos.) I did not make a note of the vehicles involved but here it is departing from Goathland (showing a rather optimistic destination display of Malton!), passing the resident railbus. The first steam-hauled train on opening day was the 10.30 from Grosmont to Goathland with the P3 in charge, photographed here passing Darnholme. The weather improved later in the day and here is the P3 again with another train from Grosmont, about to attack the 1ln49 gradient up to Goathland Work began that year on building the new Repair Shed just outside Grosmont Tunnel - this opening day view from inside shows the P3 returning from Goathland. On the right a chimney-less Q6 awaits attention. I think the next two colour shots were taken on the following day, Easter Monday, but the details on the slide mounts are rather vague. Anyone with a long memory or complete records of that weekend's workings who could help me, please? Anyway, here is No 29 departing Grosmont Tunnel and passing the P3 at the entrance to the new building. Here's No 29 again, taking a run at the start of the climb up to Goathland. The coaching stock appears to be the same as on opening day - I wonder if the P3 and 29 were sharing trains and these colour shots were actually also on the Sunday? Trevor 17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev52A Posted January 23, 2019 Author Share Posted January 23, 2019 The best of the rest from my 1973 pics: No 29 again, seen approaching Grosmont Tunnel past the still chimney-less Q6 on 27th May 1973 It's a pity the P3 or Q6 weren't in action as a backdrop to this NELPG poster at Grosmont on the same day The P3 at the usual location(!) leaving Grosmont on 17th June 1973... ...and running round its train at Goathland later that day The P3 was out of action on 30th June 1973 and was standing in a lineup of locos near the shed at Grosmont. This view from its footplate shows No 29 approaching with a train from Goathland. The Q6 ahead of the P3 still looks to be minus its chimney! The P3 was also having a rest at Grosmont on 30th July 1973 as the NYMR's own dmu set starts its 18-mile run to Pickering The P3 heading up the bank near Esk Valley on 27th August 1973 Trevor 18 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete55 Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 Thanks for posting the pictures on this thread.....brings back memories ! More please if you can. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev52A Posted January 28, 2019 Author Share Posted January 28, 2019 Thanks for posting the pictures on this thread.....brings back memories ! More please if you can. I've got a stack more ready from the later 'seventies Pete, but first I need to scan some from 1974, to keep them in chronological order. Hope to be up and running again soon. Kind regards Trevor 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold papagolfjuliet Posted February 1, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 1, 2019 On 1/17/2019 at 12:46 PM, Trev52A said: Shortly after arrival the P3 had its first run on the NYMR on 23rd October 1971, seen here leaving Grosmont tunnel with a mixed train in tow, including the NELPG's stores van. I believe this was an ex-Great Central Railway fish van - hopefully someone can confirm or otherwise It was indeed a GCR van. The underframe was written off in a shunting accident a few years later and the body grounded in the NW corner of Grosmont station car park, where it survived for another fifteen years or so before disappearing. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev52A Posted February 1, 2019 Author Share Posted February 1, 2019 6 hours ago, papagolfjuliet said: It was indeed a GCR van. The underframe was written off in a shunting accident a few years later and the body grounded in the NW corner of Grosmont station car park, where it survived for another fifteen years or so before disappearing. Thanks for the info. I wasn't sure how the van disappeared - now I know! Regards Trevor 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev52A Posted February 3, 2019 Author Share Posted February 3, 2019 I've now got some scans ready from 1974 but I'm not sure about the procedure on the new-style forum for uploading pics and adding captions in the right places, so I'll start with just two to see how we get on.. First some taken on Easter Sunday, 14th April 1974, when the P3 was in action between Grosmont and Goathland Here's the P3 running round its train at Grosmont with the scene dominated by the BR signal box, now long gone. The P3 waits for the off at Grosmont with ex-British Steel 0-4-0 diesel No 21 on the left (Seems to be working, but I'll hold back with the others until I've had a chance to check the outcome) Cheers Trevor 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev52A Posted February 3, 2019 Author Share Posted February 3, 2019 I thought something had gone wrong when I saw the pics were much bigger than my previous batches, but I have checked Dave F's site and his are the same , so it must be OK. So, on with my visit to the NYMR on Easter Sunday 1974 (April 14th) … The P3 blasts past Deviation junction leaving Grosmont Approaching Beck Hole, half way up the bank Leaning to the curve at Darnholme on the approach to Goathland Line up at Grosmont - Q6 (when will that chimney be replaced?) plus 5428 'Eric Treacy' plus Lambton Tank No 5 The two NELPG locos meet again as the P3 passes the Q6 on the approach to Grosmont Earlier in the day the 'Black Five' had stood outside the new shed building, with the other Lambton tank No 29 on the right Another view of 5428, with No 5 behind it receiving attention from the cleaners. Trevor 18 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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