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We christened the in-use decking this evening with Prosecco. more to do on it but now in use. However, that is a digression, the purpose of tonight’s post is to show my rough draft mock up completed for the south end buildings. Whether, enough will get done for Sunday’s brick stairs build deadline is a debatable  question but it has at least got the buildings started.

 

for the record. This would be the south end of the layout (hence the angle of the north light roof ridges on the factory, but I needed to use the daylight and avoid shadows. It is of course, by default, therefore totally unprototypical lighting for this north facing wall.

 

Where the white block is will be a back scene image of a road. I may never extend through that arch but keeping my options open for a future extension which would run to Foss Basin and/or the former Redfearns glass bottle factory.

 

 

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After some further thought on the 3D mock-up from yesterday I don't think the added steps work there after all. The original concept that was in my head had a big sliding door for the loading platform which the steps blocked. A design using the steps from Trellissick, the Red Tower from York, and a boarded up window from the Admiralty Engine House here on Portland knocked up this afternoon in Photoshop. Image of it as a low-relief option below; however, more likely to be placed as a full 3D model as the blocker for the two point motors nearest the fiddle yard. The steps leading down into a small walled garden rather like the one at the Merchant Adventurers Hall as accessed from Piccadilly in York. 

 

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This build will not be done by Sunday but I have made progress today, which would have got a bit further if it hadn't rained. I couldn't therefore use my jig-saw to cut the plywood outdoors. The images below show the draft sub-base ready for cutting out in plywood and a sheet with the outline of the building mock-up. The mock up needs to be transferred to blank card for making the actual building. Where the removable section needs to be fitted. It will be raised with extra plywood spacer strips below and then bolted through from below using bolts into captive nuts.

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The plywood is now cut and mounted, both for the permanent spacing layer and the dismountable upper layer that will carry the scenery and buildings.  Also double checked against the draft drawing for the building (steps height and length) and all seems to be as anticipated. It is not that the top layer is anticipated to need to come off regularly but it has to be removable in case of future point motor issues.
 

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Scenery plate - top layer as cut IMG_0819 reduced.jpg

 

Now officially bored as I wait for the  black paint to dry, unfortunately it is some rubbish quality stuff that despite stating it is one-coat for any surface always seems to need several!
 

The paint was added after the photos were taken as were two plywood blocks for the tee-nuts to sit in. The final job on Saturday to be completed was drilling bolt holes  for the removable layer. Unfortunately the last few tee-nuts I thought I had left from the pack bought for fixing on the backboard have been used up. I forgot I had used them for an end stop board. The nearest Screwfix depot has them in stock so a trip across there, hopefully tomorrow, to get some more.*

 

* One was subsequently found as it had been put away in the wrong box but I needed two for this job so a Screwfix trip was duly completed on Sunday.

 

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After bringing the removable section indoors to measure up and assess I have settled on 6ft for the width of the stairway as two people would need to pass in the layout setting I envisage. That gives the need for an extra 11mm at the front due to the angle of the roadway it is to abut to. 

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Sadly the steps in my final result disappointed me but I did enjoy doing it so here are some notes and photos. They are added as much as anything as diary entry type reminder to me of what I did and why.

 

Step 1) A draft for the building, the first idea I dropped but idea two for the other end of the layout, merging elements of three buildings, looked like it might work. As for the use it could be a Nunnery, York has(had?) at least two and the Monastery of the Poor Claires was nearby the fictitious location for the layout. (For images see the earlier posts above)

 

Step 2) To finally get around to building the necessary removable plate (See earlier post). 

 

2 - the finished base plate IMG_0833.jpg

 

This aspect was successfully achieved so the challenge has been beneficial due to completion of this aspect. It bolts up from the bottom and is held in place by captive Tee Nuts.


Step 3) Construct the steps.

3 - 2mm card correct thickness but the build was failing IMG_0825.jpg

 

The first go using card failed, too flexible and although the card was the right thickness (2mm so approx two bricks high) it was also making the flight have too many steps. (Problem with my straightening out the design and then adding the second floor.) The issue was not the resultant number of steps but that it was increasing the going, or length, of the flight. I think each step was being given too much tread length. End result - scrap and restart, remember the problem for a future build.


Step 4) Have a second go using foam board and a card facing for the brickwork.

4 - 2nd draft foamboard but at too high a step height IMG_0826.jpg

 

It sort of worked BUT highlighted the steps height problem – each step by using foam board has a riser twice as high as it should be for 4mm.

 

5 - packaging card for the overlay IMG_0829.jpg

 

6 - quickly embossed card IMG_0828.jpg

 

Also if I was doing it again I would make the steps from some square section balsa (or similar) as I forgot to allow for the end of each stair protruding into the brickwork. I used a quick version of the Pendon technique of scoring the brickwork into card and then painting. In the several years since I last tried this I have lost the knack, but I did enjoy it and will do a few more test pieces. For any future build I would need to (a) better research bond styles and (b) work out some form of embossing measuring jig for the horizontals at only 1/1.5mm apart!

7 - Tissue and paving slabs IMG_0832.jpg

 

As I realised it was not going to be fully finished for the RMWeb/BRM deadline I experimented with a tissue paper and PVA overlay to simulate worn rock hewn steps (Something I might well use in the future). It needs more work on the technique, doing a pair of steps at a time, but the experiment has broadly worked.

 

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I also got the colour balance wrong when painting, too much red in the watercolour mix, again using the colours in this way also something I am out of practice with. I also need a new boxed set of watercolour paints as this set must be over 20 years old now! Finally it needs some filler.


Step 5) Build the guard rail - I ran out of time – I planned to file an angle into the head of a few brass panel pins, solder those to a strip of copper wire, suitably bent to shape, and then superglue the pins into the steps so as to form the uprights for the rail.

 

Summary, a very interesting challenge, one key layout milestone completed (the base plate). several lessons learnt, and a reminder of techniques I need to revisit as my skills have got very, very, ring-rusty. A version of this building, or something similar, may well get added at that end of the layout as the view blocker but with a different design to the steps. It is also likely to be at 90deg to the original placing.

 

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Although today's running was not on the actual layout I have bought the Bachmann Whiskies Galore set as all relevant stock for the layout (A sound fitted Class 20, three grain wagons and a brake-van) plus an EZ DCC controller to use on the temporary track set up. Herewith a video of that under test out on the garden table this morning, no room for an oval indoors.

 

 

 

Although the Hattons 66 will not appear regularly on Phoenix Yard (In reality the connecting lines were closed and lifted before the Cl 66s were built) it may occasionally appear using Rule 1/modellers licence as justification. The very brief video of the 66 is also from this morning.

 

 

NB As a reminder to me, to embed as a playable video post the link as shown in the share box NOT the URL copied from the YouTube page header.

 

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Sadly the set of EWS Turbot ballast wagons bought to go behind my Class 66, and make occasional forays into Phoenix Yard I have now discovered would be a period incorrect pairing. The livery on my 66 is 2009 and onwards, sadly although they look modern the wagons would have been withdrawn by then. See https://www.ltsv.com/w_profile_005.php for more details; additionally, given the bespoke nature of the traffic flow they were used for, their appearance in York also very unlikely.
 

Rule one will apply but the reality of finding this inconsistency, due to most of my rolling stock knowledge covering earlier time periods, is disappointing. I had seen a photo of this 66 on a ballast train, and the wagons looked similar, but clearly what ever specific type they were they weren’t Turbots.

 

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The family are coming to stay for a few days now that some extension of the social bubbles seems to be allowed so the hobby rooms have to revert back to being bedrooms.

 

Sadly that has meant no modelling done recently but a lot of layout related work all the same as the layout, and all the other railway and modelling items that normally live in the two spare bedrooms for convenience of access have had to be moved to temporary alternative, and far less convenient, storage.

 

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