RMweb Gold Revolution Mike B Posted January 25, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 25, 2019 (edited) Which of the top ten layouts would that be? Geoff Endacott Sorry Geoff, that should've said maybe you could book me in for 2020? and it wasn't anything to do with the top ten layouts. Oak Road is in my signature. Edited January 25, 2019 by scoobyra Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Andy Hayter Posted January 25, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 25, 2019 I am confused. OO gauge manufacturer of the year is Hattons yet overall Manufacturer of the Year is Hornby. Also the OO table where non of Bachmann, Hornby or Dapol win any of the categories doesn't match what is posted later. The OO Wagon winner in the table is Hattons snowplough but later in the thread it is the Hornby Toad. Huh?!? Well maybe people who voted for Hattons as 00 manufacturer of the year, also model in other scales and when asked for the overall Manufacturer of the year have opted for a different manufacturer who perhaps makes O or N gauge. So as an example someone could have voted for Hattons on the back of their P Class and wagons in the 00 section, but overall may have voted for Dapol on the basis say of their Terrier. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TomE Posted January 25, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 25, 2019 TomE I voted for the Class 68 with a vested interest, as I had an involvement, as I scanned it, it is interesting that as I understand it neither the Cl 50 or Cl 142 were scanned much to my disappointment, as I would have enjoyed scanning and then drawing them (in 2D) as I did for the Cl. 68. The Cl. 68 was a ###### to draw in 2D with those curves but got there in the end, China then produced great 3D cads from my line work and Scan and consequently model in N and OO. Then I offer you the same congratulations & thanks! It turned out a superb model and I've already added 2 to the collection. Such a shame they haven't used your services for the 50. Tom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronny Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 A few comments: 1. I voted for Hattons as 00 manufacturer of the year on the back of their P class and Warwell wagons but I bought more stuff from Hornby during the year than any other manufacturer so I felt I should recognize that by voting them overall. Seemed logical in my mind! 2. I feel sorry for PECO. Worldwide it is easily the most recognized UK manufacturer and should be a great source of pride to all Brits. Yet what category can it compete in? Doesn't seem right. 3. It's all semantics but where I live, nobody ever "wins" second or third place. Gold is "won". Silver and bronze are "awarded" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Andy Hayter Posted January 25, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 25, 2019 Well maybe people who voted for Hattons as 00 manufacturer of the year, also model in other scales and when asked for the overall Manufacturer of the year have opted for a different manufacturer who perhaps makes O or N gauge. So as an example someone could have voted for Hattons on the back of their P Class and wagons in the 00 section, but overall may have voted for Dapol on the basis say of their Terrier. Just to back that up - which was a hypothesis put up before I had looked at the absolute numbers: 00 Manufacturer Overall manufacturer Hattons 902 votes 730 votes - minus 172 votes Hornby 775 votes 806 votes - plus 31 votes - the Andy Y syndrome perhaps Dapol 157 votes 349 votes - plus 192 votes simplistically Hattons 00 voters switched to Dapol in the overall vote. I was surprised by the overall vote for Dapol in the 0 gauge section which was higher than I expected - and higher than many other votes in any other category. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 simplistically Hattons 00 voters switched to Dapol in the overall vote. I was surprised by the overall vote for Dapol in the 0 gauge section which was higher than I expected - and higher than many other votes in any other category. Why surprised? Dapol have brought out new ranges of wagons - the Victorian era wagons which are made in the UK, HAA, brake vans and new liveries/numbers on their stock mineral, tank, open merchandise and BR van selections. They do carriages and locomotives for several periods and railways. And are promising Turbot, BBE,, HEA. Mk1, DMUs etc. None of these get the sort of marmite comments of Heljan - possibly because they start reasonably priced and don't follow up with heavy discounting. Yes there are other strong contenders in RTR 7mm, but few have the breadth of Dapols offer. Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Andy Hayter Posted January 25, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 25, 2019 (edited) Surprised, not in the sense that Dapol had not done a lot for O gauge and had done it well, but surprised that there were more votes for Dapol in O gauge than any producer in 00 gauge (maybe due to a much wider level of choice in 00 which dilutes the votes) or indeed N gauge where the number of producers is very similar. It hints that 0 gauge has taken over / is taking over from N as the 00 alternative gauge. I had thought that N would perhaps remain well ahead of 0 in that ranking. Edited January 25, 2019 by Andy Hayter 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TomE Posted January 25, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 25, 2019 I would wager it’s more related to the fact that whilst there were a high number of releases in O Gauge in 2018, N Gauge had a particularly tough time of it thanks to Bachmann’s production issues and Dapol’s move away from exclusively N into other scales. Put simply, N Gauge Modeller’s didn’t have much to vote for! Fortunately, what was on the list were some of the best N Gauge models produced in recent years. Tom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennyboy Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Am I the only one who had never even heard of the company Scale Model Scenery until today? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted January 25, 2019 Author Share Posted January 25, 2019 Am I the only one who had never even heard of the company Scale Model Scenery until today? Maybe not, but it's a good thing to come across new potential suppliers and they do plenty of interesting stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted January 25, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 25, 2019 Hello all, Thanks to everyone who voted for us, and well done to all the other prize winners. It's been quite a year! Cheers Ben A. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Andy Hayter Posted January 25, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 25, 2019 My apologies to Andy Y and the team who ran the poll; in my rush to explain results, I completely forgot to thank you all for running this task. Not important to me personally since I will not be winning anything but a real incentive to both manufacturers and modellers to try and do even better. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy MRE Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 Wow, so chuffed to have picked up a gong in Website of the Year category. Congrats to all the winners and thanks to everyone who voted. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold D9020 Nimbus Posted January 26, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 26, 2019 What are these then? I meant "gold" awards—sorry I wasn't clearer. Given there are only three candidates, they'd be hard pressed NOT to get the bronze "N Gauge Manufacturer of the Year" award—they couldn't have done worse in this category so it's hardly something to boast about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold D9020 Nimbus Posted January 26, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 26, 2019 Surprised, not in the sense that Dapol had not done a lot for O gauge and had done it well, but surprised that there were more votes for Dapol in O gauge than any producer in 00 gauge (maybe due to a much wider level of choice in 00 which dilutes the votes) or indeed N gauge where the number of producers is very similar. It hints that 0 gauge has taken over / is taking over from N as the 00 alternative gauge. I had thought that N would perhaps remain well ahead of 0 in that ranking. Given that last financial year 20% of Bachmann Industries Europe's turnover was from "N" gauge (versus 50% from OO) I think not. Perhaps fewer modellers interested in N gauge read BRM or are members of RMWeb? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted January 26, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 26, 2019 Overall some interesting results and a well run poll from Andy and co - thanks for that. One area which perhaps tells an interesting tale is that of exhibitions where what are generally regarded as the 'big ones' with most likely access to the widest geographical spread of attendees seem to get the high votes while more specialist or localised ones - however good they might - be drop much further down the scale. It would be interesting to see how the number of votes measures up against the number of attendees and if the result of the poll is a reflection solely of numbers visiting? Understandable obviously that a better known show with a larger audience and more attendees would get more votes but does it really relate as much to visitor numbers as anything else? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukmodelshops Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 (edited) Hi Folks, Just wanted to say a big thank you to everyone who voted for the Directory as the Website of the Year 2018. As it happens the Directory is 20 years old on the 1st August this year as it was in 1999 that I first launched the website. And boy have so many things changed since then. In 1999 there were 627 bricks and mortar models shops in the UK and 11 of those offered Internet ordering or had some sort of internet presence. In 2019 we only have 352 bricks and mortar model shops left but we now have 258 eCommerce model shops, 77 of these being only on the internet (i.e. no bricks and mortar presence). And there are a further 48 shops classified as 'other' meaning they probably only attend model exhibitions and/or offer mail order. Throughout the year I am taking a look at my old MS Access database where I originally developed the Directory, and the online system to discover more of these interesting facts. Best Regards, Adrian Hall ---------------------------------- THE UK Model Shops Directory **British Model Railway Awards** **Website of the Year 2018** ---------------------------------- http://www.ukmodelshops.co.uk ---------------------------------- Edited February 1, 2019 by ukmodelshops amend figures 4 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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