RMweb Gold tractionman Posted March 19, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 19, 2021 On 01/03/2021 at 02:05, DougN said: Interesting when looking at Hattons website- the page for the information has a delivery date of Q2 this year. however each of the locos has a eta of jan to March which is Q1. As we are most of the way through Q1 it looks like the info page is a better estimate (Q2) I am rather interested in getting one of these. But the Q2 delivery works well for my bank account! I would have thought that there would have been more info out by now. possibly a slightly revised delivery for: https://www.hattons.co.uk/433586/oxford_rail_or76j27001_class_j27_0_6_0_1010_in_lner_black/stockdetail.aspx the one I am interested in is due around the same time: https://www.hattons.co.uk/433590/oxford_rail_or76j27004_class_j27_0_6_0_1214_in_l_ner_lined_black/stockdetail.aspx 'Due into stock between April 2021 & June 2021', according to Hattons. cheers, Keith 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul_sterling Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 Though I try not to be a cynic, I’m beginning to wonder if we’ll see them before Christmas..... mind you, as some will know, I’ve naively expected this loco each of the previous Christmases too.....! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBAGE Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 10 minutes ago, Paul_sterling said: Though I try not to be a cynic, I’m beginning to wonder if we’ll see them before Christmas..... mind you, as some will know, I’ve naively expected this loco each of the previous Christmases too.....! Sounds like these people are finally getting to you. Disappointment. It's a life lesson that nobody likes. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul_sterling Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 Sadly I don’t think life really sanitises you to disappointment, but cynicism does disconnect you from it. The J27 is just a minor hiccup in the great scheme of things. , 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougN Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 Well yes i would love to see this loco. When it turns up... it turns up. Bigger things in life are out there as i sit here on a Saturday morning... working the second week of 6 days. When i am employed to work 5 (no over time either) ... i would much rather be at home with the family and do some modelling. Working as much as i do makes the appearance of new models such as this so much more enjoyable when they do show up. I understand that Oxford and the people behind it will be working hard to get it all to us and we should all say thank you! Anyhow the later it is the more healthy my modelling fund will be. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold john new Posted March 28, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 28, 2021 (edited) Does anyone know if this was shipped through the canal before, is stuck in a container on Ever/Evil Green, or is behind it? [or is even still in processing in China] If it is stuck in the Suez queue so be it and that can't be helped but an updated delivery date from Oxford would be nice to know just for financial planning as to when those of us with pre-orders will actually have to pay for it! Edited March 28, 2021 by john new 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedlington North Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 Theres a post up thread on 19 March. Hattons have moved their expected delivery date to between April and June. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold john new Posted March 28, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 28, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Bedlington North said: Theres a post up thread on 19 March. Hattons have moved their expected delivery date to between April and June. My recent experiences with communication on pre-orders has been poor.* That rather vague announcement is just another typical example. The reason I say that becomes clear if you disassemble it - if it is to be delivered in April (Which starts on Thursday next week) it will already have been produced, boxed up and is in a container in transit somewhere - alternatively if not until late in June it is possibly still in China. Yes, manufacture and transport are disrupted currently but the information we get on deliveries is unsatisfactorily vague. If in transit with delivery uncertain say so - In transit, due UK between April and June is believable; for me the current status announcement isn't. Pre-ordering may be what we have to do in the modern era of small production runs, but manufacturers need to become far more pro-active on informing the end customer by putting realistically worded update information on their websites once the initial target dates are not going to be met. *The worst example has been Hornby's regarding the long delayed DVLR Jim. Edited March 28, 2021 by john new Typos corrected 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedlington North Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 And yet Hatton's delivery update was spot-on with my pre-order for a Heljan Class 25. So perhaps no news is because there is no news? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishdurham Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 On 27/03/2021 at 21:59, john new said: Does anyone know if this was shipped through the canal before, is stuck in a container on Ever/Evil Green, or is behind it? [or is even still in processing in China] If it is stuck in the Suez queue so be it and that can't be helped but an updated delivery date from Oxford would be nice to know just for financial planning as to when those of us with pre-orders will actually have to pay for it! I have a "friend" in the Egyptian Government and I am told for a small consideration you can have your pick of the containers. But don't tell everyone! 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul_sterling Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 On 15/04/2021 at 12:54, Bishdurham said: I have a "friend" in the Egyptian Government and I am told for a small consideration you can have your pick of the containers. But don't tell everyone! Has your friend managed to get our container underway yet? P. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishdurham Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 58 minutes ago, Paul_sterling said: Has your friend managed to get our container underway yet? P. Think he may have lost his way! ;-) 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold john new Posted May 18, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 18, 2021 On 28/03/2021 at 11:51, john new said: My recent experiences with communication on pre-orders has been poor.* That rather vague announcement is just another typical example. The reason I say that becomes clear if you disassemble it - if it is to be delivered in April (Which starts on Thursday next week) it will already have been produced, boxed up and is in a container in transit somewhere - alternatively if not until late in June it is possibly still in China. Yes, manufacture and transport are disrupted currently but the information we get on deliveries is unsatisfactorily vague. If in transit with delivery uncertain say so - In transit, due UK between April and June is believable; for me the current status announcement isn't. Pre-ordering may be what we have to do in the modern era of small production runs, but manufacturers need to become far more pro-active on informing the end customer by putting realistically worded update information on their websites once the initial target dates are not going to be met. *The worst example has been Hornby's regarding the long delayed DVLR Jim. Nearly two months on from the above post and we are now more than half way through Q2, the currently announced (delayed) delivery period, and still no better news as to when it might arrive/have to be paid for. As posted elsewhere in the Hornby pre-order fiasco thread this lack of information is not helping the industry’s reputation. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 Maybe the J27's are sharing Hornby's 2MT container? Just like Corona V, all this delivery angst will disappear once they arrive. Oh... hang on a mo! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcanman Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 Once the J27s arrive, we'll all jump for joy like these excited children! 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Brit70053 Posted May 18, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 18, 2021 Are we starting all over again from September 2019 ? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les1952 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 On 18/05/2021 at 17:22, Brit70053 said: Are we starting all over again from September 2019 ? I hope not- I don't fancy living through another pandemic............ Les 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 17 minutes ago, Les1952 said: I hope not- I don't fancy living through another pandemic............ Look on the bright side. There's quite a few that didn't make it this far... friends included... 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les1952 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Porcy Mane said: Look on the bright side. There's quite a few that didn't make it this far... friends included... True- my children have lost a godparent each. I think I'd rather start from September 2021 in any case and look forwards.... To come back on topic, I'm going to add a sound-fitted 65817 when they arrive- and see if I can perch my N-gauge 65817 on the tender for a silly pic. Then as a J27 is too big for my layout, the next step will be to build a bigger layout....... Les Edited May 21, 2021 by Les1952 afterthought 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Brit70053 Posted May 21, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 21, 2021 3 hours ago, Les1952 said: I hope not- I don't fancy living through another pandemic............ Les With due deference to the serious tone of subsequent posts, living through another pandemic, or a further wave of this one would seem preferable to the assumed alternative. I would like to receive my ordered J27 before the situation has any chance of being put into reverse, but with the current lack of news who knows ? Health is certainly my priority. Regards, John 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishdurham Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 On 18/05/2021 at 09:00, john new said: Nearly two months on from the above post and we are now more than half way through Q2, the currently announced (delayed) delivery period, and still no better news as to when it might arrive/have to be paid for. As posted elsewhere in the Hornby pre-order fiasco thread this lack of information is not helping the industry’s reputation. Anybody heard anything yet? I would have hoped if there was a serious problem with the shipment Oxford would have said. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBAGE Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 32 minutes ago, Bishdurham said: Anybody heard anything yet? I would have hoped if there was a serious problem with the shipment Oxford would have said. Much has happened since this Topic was started, 2 years and 4 months ago, that in normal business practise would warrant some form of explanation. It seems that we should accept this without question. I think I’ll go ahead and by another Bradwell kit. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les1952 Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 It will turn up when it arrives. No point in becoming impatient.... Les 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul_sterling Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 (edited) For some, it won't be impatience that is the issue. Some have finely balanced budgets, and will want to know if they have to hold back the funds this month for the arrival or non-arrival of the J27, or whether it can be allocated elsewhere. Meanwhile, I've been on with another NE 0-6-0 Tender Loco. I grew fed up of waiting for a manufacturer to make an RTR J21! Paul. Edited June 1, 2021 by Paul_sterling 9 2 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
45568 Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 2 hours ago, Paul_sterling said: For some, it won't be impatience that is the issue. Some have finely balanced budgets, and will want to know if they have to hold back the funds this month for the arrival or non-arrival of the J27, or whether it can be allocated elsewhere. Meanwhile, I've been on with another NE 0-6-0 Tender Loco. I grew fed up of waiting for a manufacturer to make an RTR J21! Paul. That is really very good Paul, congratulations! Cheers from Oz, Peter C. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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