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3 minutes ago, Porcy Mane said:

 

She nearly pooped herself on the Thursday the Vulcan went over streaming flames & parachutes. She thought her house was on the flight line!

 

 

Bazza was OK. Considering he left school with no qualifications. He was the only form teacher we had that could be described as inspiring. Most inspiring thing he said to me was, "Porcy, you're an idiot BUT...   at least you know your an idiot!"

 

We were playing  football with him when the Vulcan went over. He ushered us into the skinny gym and for some reason thought telling us P.J. Proby was a neighbour  (For about the thousandth time.) would take our mind of the crashing nuclear bomber.

 

He wasn't amused when I told him an air launched V1 meant for Manchester had blawn up just a couple of hundred yards away reet in the middle of Tudders cricket pitch, putting in all of the school windies.

 

He was a fair football coach, but not in the George Courtney class. Bazza coached us in the under fifteens. Won the league having played 22, won 20 and drew 2. Someone told be he went on to become head?

 

Don't think he knew much about J27's though!

 

Yep, he was head of the lower school when I was there (1998-2003), Dave Metcalfe took over as Head of PE/Football Coach, not a relative of mine in this case. 

 

I was never fully up on Barry Coleman, I didn't play football, and developed a love for field events later in my time there, and I didn't shine in his geography lessons, I did much better under Luke Murray in the upper-school. My form teacher in the lower School was the music teacher, Mr Biddulph, I wasn't a fan of his, and despite having musics lessons there, and having a love of singing, the two things never met, I think I'd have probably got more out of singing than I have if he had given me the support then. As it was, he was more interested in teaching his daughter (who was in my class, "U") and those in the school band. 

 

Mrs Curry was one of the maths teachers then, did really well in her lessons, she was cynical, but amusingly so, she asked a question of us, several put their hands up and she said "is anyone going to answer, or are you just saluting Mr Hitler". 

 

Mr Yeoman taught me science for most of my time there, in addition to a few others, he replaced the Head of School Mr Mallin when I was there, despite being quite a bit older than him. I like Mr Yeoman, but my mother hated him, the two did not get along. 

 

Ahhhh Memory Lane!

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7 minutes ago, Paul_sterling said:

Dave Metcalfe

 

Most of them names are new to me. Apart from Dave M. He started Tudhoe about 72/3  (ish) fresh from TTC. Ended up having drink with him and his brother Sam, around Durham most weekends. Them were the days.

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16 hours ago, Porcy Mane said:

 

Aye Bob,

not afore Owld Ma Huttons classroom was turned into a police cell and the tech drawing room had it's moment of glory as Inspector Geordie Gently's office.

 

It appears parts of the school has now being turned into a sculpture. Looks more like a cake to me!

 

17166635830_6b202f9a20_o.jpgSchool_Sculpture by John william Smith (Smudge), on Flickr

 

P

If my old memory serves me well, I recall she was upstairs, far left, at the back.

Mr. Siddle was far right, at the back (maths).

The cake mix looks a bit dense to me. Or was that the kids?

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5 minutes ago, RBAGE said:

If my old memory serves me well, I recall she was upstairs, far left, at the back.

 

"New" block lower deck east in my day. Form teacher post Sept. 70. (1X)  Looked out onto the yard and tennis court. Bazza wuz upstairs (West)

 

10 minutes ago, RBAGE said:

Mr. Siddle was far right, at the back (maths).

 

Little baldy fella? Took us for tech. drawing. At least he was one that treated us like adults despite our relative density. (Lead)

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9 hours ago, Porcy Mane said:

 

 

 

We were playing  football with him when the Vulcan went over. He ushered us into the skinny gym and for some reason thought telling us P.J. Proby was a neighbour  (For about the thousandth time.) would take our mind of the crashing nuclear bomber.

 

 

When was that?

At one time PJ Proby lived opposite a friend of mine not far from where I still live. Quite a nice chap and a good neighbour.

Back on topic. I would rather have a late period example with the lower dome. Do Oxford models have separate domes or are they moulded as part of the boiler? I have an old Nucast dome to hand.

Bernard 

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11 hours ago, Bernard Lamb said:

When was that?

 

Early to mid 1970's.  He was doing "cabaret" and the northern working mans club circuit at the time. He lived in an unfurnished house that belonged to a fan.

 

11 hours ago, Bernard Lamb said:

I would rather have a late period example with the lower dome. Do Oxford models have separate domes or are they moulded as part of the boiler?

 

From the early cads it looks to be separate but as ever things change. I'm probably totally wrong but I'd imagine the both the chimney and the dome will be both separate items on to maximise variation on the two boiler mouldings.

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12 hours ago, Porcy Mane said:

 

Early to mid 1970's.  He was doing "cabaret" and the northern working mans club circuit at the time. He lived in an unfurnished house that belonged to a fan.

 

 

From the early cads it looks to be separate but as ever things change. I'm probably totally wrong but I'd imagine the both the chimney and the dome will be both separate items on to maximise variation on the two boiler mouldings.

He must have just lodged there as he had the house in Dudswell near Berkhamsted around that time.

 

I did see the split lines on the CAD but that could be either separate mouldings or an integral chimney and dome produced by using different tool inserts. I will get a late crest one whatever and take it from their.

Bernard

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On 03/09/2020 at 08:00, Paul_sterling said:

 

If its any consolation, the same applies to me, and has done since my twenties, Tudhoe, West Cornforth, both long since gone.

 

The only school I've attended that still stands (and is the one that really should have been demolished) is the school of Engineering at Teesside University.......................

 

Paul. 

 

The only thing I regret about the demolition about five years ago of  the former premises of the Sir William Turner’s School, Corporation Road, Redcar, is that I wasn’t driving the machine that flattened the *@!#*! place with some of my former sadistic masters in it. 

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Email from Hatton's, today.

 

Hello

We thought you may like to know that an item you have on order with us, on order id 4592213, has had some information about its release date added or updated.

Oxford Rail OR76J27003XS Class J27 0-6-0 65817 in BR black with late crest - Digital sound fitted £179.00

Our latest information from the supplier suggests this item will arrive with us between January 2021 & March 2021

Whilst we are hopeful this information is accurate, manufacturer lead times are frequently prone to be delayed.

This information is to be used as a guide only.

We hope that this email has been useful.

Regards

Retail Team
Hattons Model Railways
www.hattons.co.uk

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Posted the OR FB page

 

J27 Update:

The J27 has been one of the most talked about new Oxford Rail items since we announced them, and I know that many people are desperately awaiting their arrival. Those of you who saw the Pre-production samples at the shows in London, Nuremberg and Glasgow will be aware of how good they looked, but also that there were a few enhancements that we wanted to make to the models.

As we are all aware there has been a great deal of disruption to supply chain in every field of business and our development has suffered Covid-19 delays as well. We are awaiting the revised samples from the factory, which have been delayed by the pandemic. These will have to be checked and approved prior to production and as such it is looking like it will be early 2021 before these locos arrive in the UK.

I know that this will come as a disappointment to some, however, we want to build upon the success of the award-winning Railway gun with these locos and I know that they will be worth the wait.

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To save me re-reading all previous posts, can anyone remember if the issue of chimney height has been brought to the attention of Oxford Rail. Looking at images on websites of the main box shifters, it seems that the chimneys on both BR era locos are incorrect.

Is anyone aware if they have rectified the error or do I need to buy castings from Dave Bradwell?

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11 hours ago, RBAGE said:

To save me re-reading all previous posts, can anyone remember if the issue of chimney height has been brought to the attention of Oxford Rail. Looking at images on websites of the main box shifters, it seems that the chimneys on both BR era locos are incorrect.

Is anyone aware if they have rectified the error or do I need to buy castings from Dave Bradwell?

I'd buy the whole kit while you're on the phone to Dave if I were you - there's no evidence that OR have paid attention to any of the constructive criticism on here, and indeed they've made it clear that they've had enough of experts with their inconvenient facts. The latest photos show no changes to the the cabside windows, brakes or chassis outline, but they do show OR have added an all-new error: underfed tender axleboxes and springs. 

 

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, Daddyman said:

I'd buy the whole kit while you're on the phone to Dave if I were you - there's no evidence that OR have paid attention to any of the constructive criticism on here, and indeed they've made it clear that they've had enough of experts with their inconvenient facts. The latest photos show no changes to the the cabside windows, brakes or chassis outline, but they do show OR have added an all-new error: underfed tender axleboxes and springs. 

 

 

 

 

Thanks for that. I already have 2 Bradwell J27s. As you say, I might be better buying another from him rather than buy something that I then need to start modifying.

I think you may have helped me make my mind up. Besides, the Bradwell J27 is a lovely kit to build. Very rewarding.

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On 21/10/2020 at 11:35, RBAGE said:

Thanks for that. I already have 2 Bradwell J27s. As you say, I might be better buying another from him rather than buy something that I then need to start modifying.

I think you may have helped me make my mind up. Besides, the Bradwell J27 is a lovely kit to build. Very rewarding.

 

A lot really depends on what you are willing to accept. You might remember I mentioned quite early on in this thread about renumbering the one I get (if it ever arrives) to represent the preserved one. I was challenged on that, for the various different details that are incorrect, but for me, Its only going to run on my railway, and I'm not trying to pass it off as a 100% representative model of 65894, so if I'm happy that's all that matters really, the gauge is still over 2mm undersize after all................ 

 

I've recently bought a J21 kit, and I must admit, the idea of re-wheeling a J27 chassis as a donor for that appeals to me, but that is purely due to my lack of experience in chassis construction being off-putting. 

 

Paul. 

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On 21/10/2020 at 11:41, Paul_sterling said:

 

A lot really depends on what you are willing to accept. You might remember I mentioned quite early on in this thread about renumbering the one I get (if it ever arrives) to represent the preserved one. I was challenged on that, for the various different details that are incorrect, but for me, Its only going to run on my railway, and I'm now trying to pass it off as a 100% representative model of 65894, so if I'm happy that's all that matters really, the gauge is still over 2mm undersize haha. 

 

I've recently bought a J21 kit, and I must admit, the idea of re-wheeling a J27 chassis as a donor for that appeals to me, but that is purely due to my lack of experience in chassis construction being off-putting. 

 

Paul. 

Absolutely right. At the end of the, it's what makes you happy that counts. And as you suggested, there are much bigger compromises elsewhere.

 

Good luck with the J21. Not much room in one of those for motor and gearbox. I suggest you talk to Chris Gibbons at High Level Kits to sort out the right combination.

 

If you need any help, give me a shout.

 

Bob

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Tried the link given by Tractionman on Saturday. I could view the You Tube film from Hattons but could not get any Audio on it. As a good deal of the film is Hatton's staff member talking I couldn't make much of the video, except to note that the smokebox door handles have gone missing from the LNER version. I assume this was a review sample that may have taken a few knocks on its travel.

I was hoping a 'delivery expected' date might have been given, but, not being able to hear anything I don't know if anything is quoted.

Wonder whether the problem with no sound is the video or my laptop which has recently installed the latest Windows 10 update?

 

If anyone can both see and listen to the linked video, I'd be interested to hear any important news.

 

Regards,

                  John

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Can I assume from my failure to see any video play during my first few attempts to use the link today, that the thing only plays when it feels like it, rather than on demand?

 

Anyway, now I have seen it I agree with Mick, it is just 17+ minutes of sales pitch with occasional static images of the sample models. Nothing really new.

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Unfortunately, I had sound and didn't learn anything of importance.  Perhaps we will see it in early 2021, perhaps not.  Quite looking forward to seeing it.  Strange a NER version isn't in the first releases, but that has probably been mentioned before.

 

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