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9 hours ago, MidlandRed said:

A photo which shows just how filthy the examples used generally on freight on the Midland Lines got - you’d be forgiven for thinking there are no white window surrounds on the right hand example - D5374 looks like it’s yellow warning panel has been cleaned. 

 

Yes and it's in complete contrast to the shot I posted quite a while ago of a pristine 27 passing through Lilbourne on the Rugby - Market Harborough line in 1966!

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11 hours ago, hmrspaul said:

I mentioned my few photo a couple of years ago, D5389 appears unusual in the position of the arrows compared to most photos on here. https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brclass26/edd3963d

 

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D5389 and D5026 got repaints in the same style as the new build D7660. The spec for numbers was that they were to align with the gap in the double arrow symbol - based on loco numbers under the second man’s cab windows, the arrows under the driver’s windows are placed quite high so the numbers align with the gap - however the inboard numbers seem unreasonably far inboard!! I wonder if this was to match those on the new 25s, which had the large grille behind the cab door at one end? Subsequent new 25s got arrows on all four cabs, and fye from D7662 - the new 25s had the arrows placed high on the cab side to avoid the works plate (moved to the cab door for the last few built). 

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On 29/07/2021 at 01:04, Neil Phillips said:

 

That's the odd thing - if 5389 had simply had full yellow ends applied then yes, I'd have expected its nearly 5-year-old blue paintwork and sooty roof to look just like this. But then it would have been displaying a double arrow logo where the number is, plus a bodyside number. If both had been painted out surely this would have been visible as darker blue patches. The spaced-out numbers were typical ScR (St Rollox?) at the time so it looks like a full repaint into Bfye around 12 months earlier has weathered particularly badly on this one. Maybe the date's wrong but how much longer did 5406 last in green? It's a bit of a mystery TBH!


As you say, it’s weathered extremely badly if it’s a repaint. I’m minded to think it’s had an fye applied and lost it’s D, with the new numbers spaced out over the extent of the cab panel width. There appears to be a patch of normal colour where the numbers are applied. Perhaps they were able to peel off the old transfers? Would be interesting to see a photo of the whole side of 5389 in this era. 

 

An extraordinary photo for liveries really - three different styles, and almost 50 yrs ago!! 

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1 hour ago, MidlandRed said:


(moved to the cab door for the last few built). 

 

Yep, D7672-7. For some reason Crewe outshopped a few, including 5184, 7562 & 7609, in this style around spring 1970 but left the works plates on the cabsides so the arrows were in the higher position. This was around the same time Crewe also released 6882/3 with cabside arrows and bodyside numbers so I wonder what was going on in their paintshop at the time.....?!

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1 hour ago, Rugd1022 said:

Photo by Craig Dunn : 27 010 at Haymarket, April 1983....

 

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Must have used the same cleaner as the one below

72 227 101072 Inverness D5120

 

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On 10/08/2021 at 16:50, mpb56125 said:

26 001 at Eastfield Depot on 14th September 1990

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26 015 at Eastfield Depot on 14th September 1990

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26 026 at Eastfield Depot on 14th September 1990

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26 025 at Manchester Victoria on 20th October 1990

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If I'm not mistaken, the fire damage on 26001 was sustained in April 1990, during the "Tay-Forth Centenarian" tour. This tour also featured 47822, which similarly self-immolated later in the evening, in the Brum area.

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On 10/08/2021 at 16:50, mpb56125 said:

26 001 at Eastfield Depot on 14th September 1990

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26 015 at Eastfield Depot on 14th September 1990

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26 026 at Eastfield Depot on 14th September 1990

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26 025 at Manchester Victoria on 20th October 1990

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Mark

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Once again a humble freight locomotive totally overshadows a dowdy-looking 'passenger' Class 31/4. Why a greater effort to lift the appearance of the latter sub-class was never made is an enduring mystery to me, depot-applied white stripes excepted. The design was tailor-made for the yellow wrap-around treatment but it never happened - another depot initiative to 31135 in the early 80s showed how all 31/4s should have looked at the very least, IMHO......however I've stood on this soapbox before and this is a 26/27 thread so I'll get off it (again!)

 

Nice sharp pics BTW - poor old scorched 26001, it was usually 27s that looked like that......:huh:

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1 hour ago, Neil Phillips said:

 

Once again a humble freight locomotive totally overshadows a dowdy-looking 'passenger' Class 31/4. Why a greater effort to lift the appearance of the latter sub-class was never made is an enduring mystery to me, depot-applied white stripes excepted. The design was tailor-made for the yellow wrap-around treatment but it never happened - another depot initiative to 31135 in the early 80s showed how all 31/4s should have looked at the very least, IMHO......however I've stood on this soapbox before and this is a 26/27 thread so I'll get off it (again!)

 

Nice sharp pics BTW - poor old scorched 26001, it was usually 27s that looked like that......:huh:


Whay would any depot want to tart up locomotives they’d rather see the back of? Underpowered rubbish once fitted with ETH, more 37/4 conversions would have been much more useful.

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3 hours ago, brushman47544 said:


Whay would any depot want to tart up locomotives they’d rather see the back of? Underpowered rubbish once fitted with ETH, more 37/4 conversions would have been much more useful.

 

I was thinking Doncaster might have showed some initiative during general overhauls, after all they were giving the Railfreight 31s 'the treatment'. 

Agree about more 37/4s, I reckon they've proved their worth over the years, although it was a pity so many of them were transferred to the freight sector so early on. I suppose that's why no more than 31 were created in the end, although presumably your point is that the Class 37 ETH conversions should have commenced earlier than 1985, instead of yet more underpowered 31s, even if that would have pre-dated the refurbishment programme.....?

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