kandc_au Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 And a set for myself as well please! Let me know when money is required! Khris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Siberian Snooper Posted February 24, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 24, 2019 On 13/02/2019 at 22:47, Coach bogie said: I will be going over to David's next week (1/2 term) to sort castings etc. Just been talking with him, and he is keen to put a run on. The tools are now local and castings could be produced, weather permitting, if necessary. The ex Blacksmith tool van has been available etches only at shows in the past from Coopercraft. Mike Wiltshire Any update, on the Van's? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach bogie Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 There are enough castings for two vans. On has benn accounted for a someone on here managed to get hold of David direct. I have additional castings for further 4, without axleboxes. David is trying to source these. The tools are still in Darlington and should include the axleboxes so the problem will be solved. David is going to order enough etching for 6 pairs to get started. If and when the tools arrive, should the molds for the doors are there then more vans can be run off. Mike Wiltshire 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach bogie Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Just to keep everyone up to date, David is going to put on a run. Unfortunately his wife has been back in hospital for the last couple of weeks and railways are not happening until she come home. The axlebox shortage has been solved, instructions have been printed up and 6 kits can be made up quite quickly. I just need David to order the etches and then they will be available quite quickly. Mike Wiltshire 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted March 23, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 23, 2019 I take it I’ve missed the boat on these? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach bogie Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 2 hours ago, The Fatadder said: I take it I’ve missed the boat on these? No. Until David orders the etches, the kits cannot be put together. I am in London at the moment so I cannot get an update until I return north. Mike Wiltshire Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted March 23, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, Coach bogie said: No. Until David orders the etches, the kits cannot be put together. I am in London at the moment so I cannot get an update until I return north. Mike Wiltshire Look forward to hearing more. I would definitely like one, even if I don’t know when I will end up getting a crane to got with them. Best get it while it’s available! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B15nac Posted April 4, 2020 Author Share Posted April 4, 2020 Hi Starting off a old topic again sorry. I've managed to get hold of these tool an mess vans an I'm after a bit of help as to what they would of looked like in the late 1950's. I guess black all over but what words would of been on them just there numbers in yellow? I see the Newton abbot one had newton abbot written in yellow on the side near one end. Any help or advice would be appreciated Kind regards Neil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 (edited) Plenty of BR era photos around. They appear to have retained the large boards describing their use. Some photos towards the end of this collection https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/gwrdeptcoach Paul Edited April 4, 2020 by hmrspaul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B15nac Posted April 4, 2020 Author Share Posted April 4, 2020 Thanks for that. Looks like they seem to vary depending on what shed they were from Regards Neil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted October 11, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 11, 2022 (edited) On 02/02/2019 at 15:30, Andy M said: Hi Neil, Like with most things relating to Newton Abbot Shed, images of the breakdown vehicles are scant. During the BR(W) period the Mess Van was No.103, a 4-wheeler built in 1938 to Lot.1302. The Tool Van was originally No.114, a six-wheeler built in 1904 to Lot.446. This was replaced in 1953 by No.141, a four-wheeler built in 1908 to Lot.579. Included are a few images I have of these vehicles at Newton, the colour image of No.103 shows off well the plain black livery and yellow lettering they carried in BR days. The image of No.114, although from GW days, shows it with 36-ton Ransomes & Rapier Crane No.3. Hope this helps, Andy. I had completely forgotten about this photo of Newton Abbot until I saw it in Western Times while flicking through issue 1 this morning, very useful given I was looking for confirmation as to what I would need for a tool van to partner 103. I am in the process of drawing up some 3d printed scratch building aids based on the drawings in Atkins et al, would be interested to know if the basic dimensions for length / width/height are approximately the same between the 4 wheel version and the 6 wheel. At a glance it looks pretty close (with differences in the door design and handrails), I want to adapt my drawing accordingly... Edited October 11, 2022 by The Fatadder Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy M Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 1 hour ago, The Fatadder said: I had completely forgotten about this photo of Newton Abbot until I saw it in Western Times while flicking through issue 1 this morning, very useful given I was looking for confirmation as to what I would need for a tool van to partner 103. I am in the process of drawing up some 3d printed scratch building aids based on the drawings in Atkins et al, would be interested to know if the basic dimensions for length / width/height are approximately the same between the 4 wheel version and the 6 wheel. At a glance it looks pretty close (with differences in the door design and handrails), I want to adapt my drawing accordingly... Hi Rich, Glad you found this earlier post and my article in Western Times of use. No.103 was a one off replacement for a fire damaged vehicle and Swindon took the opportunity to clad it with sheet metal rather than wooden planks, making it unique in that regard. It’s sister vehicle was No.114 during your modelling period, later replaced by No.141 in BR(W) days. I would be interested in obtaining one of your 3-D prints if possible please and if I can be of any further help please shout. Regards, Andy. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted October 14, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 14, 2022 The current progress on the two vans (previously shown on my workbench), still a lot of detail to be added with about half the rivets missing on the underframe still needing to be added. Will be doing some test prints this evening to see how much finer I can make the planks. Any glaring omissions or errors please be critical, they may already be in my to do list (like the missing panel gap between the buffer beam and the end on 103 or the missing rivets on the solbar) I'd much rather be told something I already know than miss something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach bogie Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 Are fitting gas lighting pipework as separate fittings? Many of the preserved ones have had them removed. https://www.warwickshirerailways.com/gwr/gwrhj100a.htm Some of the two window ends had three footsteps, each side. Looking good. Mike Wiltshire 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted October 14, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 14, 2022 37 minutes ago, Coach bogie said: Are fitting gas lighting pipework as separate fittings? Many of the preserved ones have had them removed. https://www.warwickshirerailways.com/gwr/gwrhj100a.htm Some of the two window ends had three footsteps, each side. Looking good. Mike Wiltshire I haven’t started on the gas pipe work yet, it was one of those features that I was hoping would be gone by the 40s so I wouldn’t have to! I am going to add the lamps first (once I find a clear enough image to work from, or remember where I’ve put some castings to compare against.) The actual pipe work is a good question as to whether it’s best to print as part of the body or add later from brass wire. I hadn’t seen that image as part of my research so far, probably the clearest view of the roof I’ve seen. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach bogie Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 Better view here, from the 1940's if you zoom in bottom left. https://www.shutterstock.com/editorial/image-editorial/breakdown-gangs-worked-all-day-to-clear-the-main-line-from-london-to-the-west-country-after-this-gwr-goods-train-jumped-the-rails-at-wootton-bassett-in-wiltshire-1798263a Mike Wiltshire 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluemonkey presents.... Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 Great stuff Rich. Personally I would leave the piping to be added later but I do not have the CAD skills of yourself or the knowledge of the potential for the end result. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy M Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 Rich, PM sent with official GWR 'Works Images' of van No.103. Andy. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted October 16, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 16, 2022 This is pretty much it on 103, I still have some rework to do on the planked version which can wait until after I have test printed the steel sided version and ran the test print for the plank gaps. Buffers are more for show, as is the yellow footstep unit (the intention for both parts would be using off the shelf products rather than printing). Roof vents are my drawing (again to be tested) I am unsure as to whether these will print well enough, so it may well be a case of using Comet / MJT castings instead.) Likewise, the gas lamp bits are currently shown as part of the print which will be included as part of the print if it works. I have left off the associated pipework for the moment with the logic being that its a lot easier to add from brass rod than to add to the drawing (and will probably look better to boot.) The tool van is a little further behind in that I have yet to start on the bespoke changes to make 114, however the drawing for the 4 wheel van is nearer to completion. More rivets are needed on the underframe, while the body needs a little more framing / reinforcement plates adding (the next job). 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubbles2 Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 An old thread I know but just wondering if these GWR tool vans ever got printed? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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