RMweb Premium Andy Kirkham Posted January 26, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 26, 2019 (edited) I've just come across a set of rather nice photos by Ron Toop, https://www.flickr.com/photos/midsomer-norton-south-station/albums/72157629882634822/with/7264114234/ There are one or two rarities such as: img005 by Regency Bristol, on Flickr T9 at Bath img013 by Regency Bristol, on Flickr 0-4-4 leaving Bath img024 by Regency Bristol, on Flickr A Black 5 on the S&D A Bulleid Pacific apparently in malachite livery img045 by Regency Bristol, on Flickr Edited January 26, 2019 by Andy Kirkham 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnofwessex Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 Thank you Interestingly enough it includes pictures of loaded coal wagons heading south from Bath, demonstrating that The Somerset Coalfield didnt exclusivley supply the area served by the S&D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkirby Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 (edited) That Bulleid pacific could be Dorchester which was still in this livery when first allocated. Neil Edited February 1, 2019 by neilkirby typo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailWest Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 You could be right, as the fourth digit of the smokebox number IMHO is clearly a '4'. Noting that this comes from a set of photos for the Bath Extension, are there any other similar collections of Toop pix elsewhere on the web for other parts of the line I wonder? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ian J. Posted January 27, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 27, 2019 Very nice. Many thanks for that link. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted January 27, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 27, 2019 (edited) Now this may not be popular and there are many other super photos but in terms of rarity this has to be near top of pile? https://www.flickr.com/photos/midsomer-norton-south-station/7264125234/in/album-72157629882634822/ Phil Edited January 27, 2019 by Phil Bullock 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted January 27, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 27, 2019 (edited) And given livery this must have been post closure access via Radstock? https://www.flickr.com/photos/midsomer-norton-south-station/7264153720/in/album-72157629882634822/ Phil Edited January 27, 2019 by Phil Bullock Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailWest Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 I'm confused now - are you trying to link to a specific photo, as all I get is a large set and it is not clear to which one you are referring...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted January 27, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 27, 2019 Phil Both links just seem to go to the main album page rather than individual photos. Eric Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Andy Kirkham Posted January 27, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 27, 2019 (edited) And given livery this must have been post closure access via Radstock? https://www.flickr.com/photos/midsomer-norton-south-station/sets/72157629882634822/with/7264114234/ Phil And given livery this must have been post closure access via Radstock? https://www.flickr.com/photos/midsomer-norton-south-station/sets/72157629882634822/with/7264114234/ Phil Phil,those urls just lead me to the album. I'm guessing you're referring to the ones of the DMU at Writhlington, though. Note that the set sees to have been augmented with a coach from a (?) Class 101 It appears to be the RCTS Thames & Avon tour of April 6 1968. See https://www.sixbellsjunction.co.uk/ Edited January 27, 2019 by Andy Kirkham Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted January 27, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 27, 2019 Ah sorry folks - have now corrected the links, yes Andy its the Class 117/8 with a 101 strengthener in the second one, the first is 4 x 2 car derby lightweight units on climb to Midford... IIRC the Derby units could be the only recorded revenue diesel working along the full length of the line? Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Andy Kirkham Posted January 27, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 27, 2019 (edited) Can anyone identify the ( to my eyes ) odd-looking first coach? img097 by Regency Bristol, on Flickr Edited January 27, 2019 by Andy Kirkham 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBAGE Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 Can anyone identify the ( to my eyes ) odd-looking first coach? img097 by Regency Bristol, on Flickr Is it a Maunsell low window? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ian J. Posted January 27, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 27, 2019 I was thinking a Maunsell, but it does appear to be an odd configuration. I wonder if it was an early conversion of an LSWR or some other carriage? The guard's ducket doesn't have the typical Maunsell look, and the beading isn't normal Maunsell either. Hopefully someone else will have the answer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted January 27, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 27, 2019 (edited) Ah sorry folks - have now corrected the links, yes Andy its the Class 117/8 with a 101 strengthener in the second one, the first is 4 x 2 car derby lightweight units on climb to Midford... IIRC the Derby units could be the only recorded revenue diesel working along the full length of the line? Phil There were a few excursions from Birmingham to the south coast using DMUs in 1958/9 At least two including the one pictured went along the S&D. Apparently another reached Ramsgate, some journey in a DMU. Edited January 27, 2019 by TheSignalEngineer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisf Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Can anyone identify the ( to my eyes ) odd-looking first coach? img097 by Regency Bristol, on Flickr Second attempt at posting a reply! It looks like a Great Eastern to me. Chris 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ian J. Posted January 28, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 28, 2019 Second attempt at posting a reply! It looks like a Great Eastern to me. Chris The rest of the train looks Eastern Region in origin, so that would seem to make sense. Certainly a lone Maunsell in such a train would be odd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bécasse Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 It looks like a Great Eastern to me. Definitely an ex-GER 3-compartment corridor brake third and almost certainly still in LNER fake-teak brown. They were popular vehicles for ER-originating holiday trains because of the vast amount of passenger luggage that they could absorb. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted January 28, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 28, 2019 There were a few excursions from Birmingham to the south coast using DMUs in 1958/9 At least two including the one pictured went along the S&D. Apparently another reached Ramsgate, some journey in a DMU. Phil Six Bells Junction lists at least four DMU specials travelling the S&D throughout. This is the Derby set on 25 May 1958 https://www.sixbellsjunction.co.uk/50s/580525br.html Birmingham - Bournemouth 17 February 1959, 7 cars including a 3 car Met Cam. https://www.sixbellsjunction.co.uk/50s/590217b2.html This was repeated with another 7 car on 17 May 1959 but no set details. On 21 August 1960 there was a 6 car from Cheltenham to Bournemouth via the S&D. This from Cheltenham St James to Lyme Regis did Mangotsfield to Templecombe on the way out with a Swindon Cross Country set on 10 May 1958. https://www.sixbellsjunction.co.uk/50s/580510gr.html Eric Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
88D Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Now this may not be popular and there are many other super photos but in terms of rarity this has to be near top of pile? https://www.flickr.com/photos/midsomer-norton-south-station/7264125234/in/album-72157629882634822/ Phil Burn it!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted January 28, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 28, 2019 Phil Six Bells Junction lists at least four DMU specials travelling the S&D throughout. This is the Derby set on 25 May 1958 https://www.sixbellsjunction.co.uk/50s/580525br.html Birmingham - Bournemouth 17 February 1959, 7 cars including a 3 car Met Cam. https://www.sixbellsjunction.co.uk/50s/590217b2.html This was repeated with another 7 car on 17 May 1959 but no set details. On 21 August 1960 there was a 6 car from Cheltenham to Bournemouth via the S&D. This from Cheltenham St James to Lyme Regis did Mangotsfield to Templecombe on the way out with a Swindon Cross Country set on 10 May 1958. https://www.sixbellsjunction.co.uk/50s/580510gr.html Eric Fantastic research Eric. Peter Smith only quotes one in his book IIRC Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted January 28, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 28, 2019 (edited) Fantastic research Eric. Peter Smith only quotes one in his book IIRC Phil Phil Peter mentioned the Gloucester Railway Society one apparently. Picture here. http://somersetanddorset.blogspot.com/2011/11/dmu-on-s.html Eric Edited January 28, 2019 by TheSignalEngineer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailWest Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Amongst the Toop photos is this one here:- https://www.flickr.com/photos/midsomer-norton-south-station/7264169104/in/album-72157629882634822/ The location is just west of Moorewood, looking back towards the signal-box, with the Up sidings (for the Emborough stone works) hidden in the background. But what about the notice for Marcroft on the extreme left - I never knew that they had an outpost here? Can anyone add any details please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted January 28, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 28, 2019 Fantastic research Eric. Peter Smith only quotes one in his book IIRC Phil There is also a report on Six Bells Junction of a DMU shuttle between Bath Green Park and Wellow during the Bath Festival in 1961. I've also seen an uncorroborated claim of a Cardiff - Portsmouth DMU running between Bat Green Park and Templecombe on a diversion c1961/2. Haven't found any confirmation of that. Eric Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold griffgriff Posted January 28, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 28, 2019 Thank you Interestingly enough it includes pictures of loaded coal wagons heading south from Bath, demonstrating that The Somerset Coalfield didnt exclusivley supply the area served by the S&D Weren’t the goods sidings shunted ‘from the south’ being served by north bound workings? I don’t know but looking at Midford traffic would, presumably, come from the Evercreech Junction direction? Therefore coal worked north would have to go south to go north again? I’m asking out of curiosity.... I really should know more about the S&D. Griff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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