Popular Post drgj Posted February 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2021 Here is my Kitmaster second open. This was one of those coaches you find that are made up but not that brilliantly built. I stripped it down and rebuilt it. Along the way I removed the raised lining and put lining transfers on after a respray. I really like the Peco interiors that go with these coaches and have adapted one for a different type.. Dave 18 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HonestTom Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 Here's my attempt at the mineral wagon in cruel close-up. 15 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 On 13/02/2019 at 22:36, Nickey Line said: I can only assume that the photo on the box for the tank wagon kit showed axle boxes with red painted centres, as it appears RosiesBoss has done the same... is there any prototype evidence for this? Haven't found anything on Bartlett... Could be red - I would have expected yellow. John Isherwood. 1 1 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 Not the same type of wagon, but these had red axlebox/roller bearing covers. https://wrightys.smugmug.com/TavyWagons/TTA-ESSO-2-Axle-Gas-Oil-Tank/i-4qm7Wmd/ Jason 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Nickey Line Posted February 1, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 1, 2021 1 hour ago, cctransuk said: Could be red - I would have expected yellow. John Isherwood. Having checked in my copy of Geoff Kent's book, it seems likely that the axle box covers on class A tanks might be yellow, especially when new; however, he sadly fails to mention any colour for the class B... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
locomad2 Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 Lovely pictures those tank wagons so thanks for posting prehaps the next batch will be in silver, I've a few box limited edition left, plus odd wrecks found in toy fairs. The airfix tank wagons are especially good in a long rake, like them so much I've been building / rebuilding them over the past 50 years, not easy to photo, so here's a rake in a siding taken recently The last one has been left as original, one I built when I was 9, therefore I've built at least a few every decade since making them easier the the most popular kit I've built. The whole rake uses peco coupling, some did have tension lock, but I found as trains got longer over 20 wagons they tended to derail when shunted in reverse. I think also there is about 4 different types of wheels used, however some are airfix which tend to squeak especially on curves, "just like real thing". The brake van also airfix is actual a convertible wagon both peco & tension lock, notice too the overhead crane, that's part airfix too. 12 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 On 13/02/2019 at 22:36, Nickey Line said: I can only assume that the photo on the box for the tank wagon kit showed axle boxes with red painted centres, as it appears RosiesBoss has done the same... Red was the official colour for Timken axlebox caps when the prototype 35t GLW tanks were introduced. Red was replaced by the yellow with red stripe caps in about 1960. I'll have to check my paint schedules to get the exact date. 1 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo675 Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 16 hours ago, cctransuk said: Could be red - I would have expected yellow. John Isherwood. 6 hours ago, Porcy Mane said: Red was the official colour for Timken axlebox caps when the prototype 35t GLW tanks were introduced. Red was replaced by the yellow with red stripe caps in about 1960. I'll have to check my paint schedules to get the exact date. Hi Chaps, Your black and white photographs of red axle box covers have reminded me of the Ted Lowe quote: "....and for those of you who are watching in black and white, the pink is next to the green" Gibbo. 1 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 25 minutes ago, Gibbo675 said: Your black and white photographs of red axle box covers have reminded me of the Ted Lowe quote: ... and when I was typing it out and adding the image I was thinking to myself of the Arthur Lowe (Mainwaring) quote, 'I Wondered who'd be the first to spot that one.' [and if they'd comment on it]. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 9 hours ago, locomad2 said: Lovely pictures those tank wagons so thanks for posting prehaps the next batch will be in silver,.... Be aware that the Class A (silver) wagons had a longer tank, plus other detail differences; some cutting / shutting is required. John Isherwood. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HonestTom Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 8 hours ago, Porcy Mane said: Red was the official colour for Timken axlebox caps when the prototype 35t GLW tanks were introduced. Red was replaced by the yellow with red stripe caps in about 1960. I'll have to check my paint schedules to get the exact date. Aww, I was hoping I could use mine across eras. Maybe I'll just give the underframe some very heavy weathering... 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
locomad2 Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 Timeless 11 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Chas Levin Posted February 14, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 14, 2021 On 09/02/2019 at 20:27, Gibbo675 said: Hi Bernard, Well spotted ! They are indeed the K's Mataro caches but I did not narrow them, they are as built externally with the exception of altering the foot boards and squaring the windows to make them look more like Liverpool and Manchester Railway types. Along with fitting compartment dividers the other modification made was that I had two sets and so one of the mail coach types was converted into an extra first class coach. Gibbo. Very nice looking they are too - i'm very pleased to see them as I just bought a pair of these and intend using them similarly, as early British stock... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Chas Levin Posted February 14, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 14, 2021 On 01/02/2021 at 14:54, drgj said: Here is my Kitmaster second open. This was one of those coaches you find that are made up but not that brilliantly built. I stripped it down and rebuilt it. Along the way I removed the raised lining and put lining transfers on after a respray. I really like the Peco interiors that go with these coaches and have adapted one for a different type.. Dave That's beautiful looking coach: I wouldn't have spotted that as a Kitmaster without it being pointed out. Not that I'm criticising Kitmasters but they sometimes betray their origins much more clearly that that lone does . 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
locomad2 Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Anyone actually use the original Airfix coupling ? When I did start building them 50 years ago did try on the layout to use them but found not compatible with then Peco type, at the time kits cost about 2/- and the peco coupling the same price so doubled the cost and as a result often "robbed" them from peco wonderful wagons. I can also remember trying to run them in a rake, running backwards found they derailed easy, plus the elastic bands broke. Often get mine now from toy fairs in the scrap boxes for ridiculous low prices, often broken, bits missing, etc. However great fun in rebuilding many and adding to collection. Did pick 2 made unpainted versions recently and tried again, this coupled up Pulling And Pushing So noticed pushing on curves etc the buffers would meet, now experience of loose stock using chains buffer lock can occur, wagons need to be heavy, buffers the same height and strong plus you couldn't really push more than a few. Airfix kit buffers not the most robust and kits very light. However one advantage is close connection about 13mm beam to beam compared to 20mm peco or tension Plus how do they uncouple? Special ramps ? 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Trainshed Terry Posted February 15, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 15, 2021 On 14/02/2021 at 21:39, Chas Levin said: That's beautiful looking coach: I wouldn't have spotted that as a Kitmaster without it being pointed out. Not that I'm criticising Kitmasters but they sometimes betray their origins much more clearly that that lone does . Considering that the kit is over 30 years old they still make a great looking MK 1. Terry. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Add another thirty years on that. They were discontinued in the early 1960s after they were taken over by Airfix with a few old stocks lasting a little while after. Well gone when I was growing up in the 1970s. Worth considering the Cooper Craft BR Mark Ones which were meant to be a modern version must be about thirty years old! The photo is one of Clive Mortimore's cut and shuts rather than Cooper Craft. Click to go to the thread. Jason 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SM42 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 (edited) On 01/02/2021 at 18:02, Nickey Line said: Having checked in my copy of Geoff Kent's book, it seems likely that the axle box covers on class A tanks might be yellow, especially when new; however, he sadly fails to mention any colour for the class B... In the book "Diesel Heyday, Sulzers in the 60s" by Euslin Bruce there are two colour photos of D6580 at Fawley in 1963. Although not the same tank wagon, all the axleboxes visible are yellow Rear cover photo of Diesels in Wessex shows yellow covers. Airfix type wagons. Dated 1966 Andy Edited February 16, 2021 by SM42 To add further source 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Plenty of colour photos show the axlebox colours https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/essoatankwagonvb Paul 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Nickey Line Posted February 16, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 16, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, hmrspaul said: Plenty of colour photos show the axlebox colours https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/essoatankwagonvb Paul That link is for A class tanks, but the B class tank page also has plenty of colour shots... with yellow axle boxes! Don't know how I've missed those previously... very poor! https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/essobtankwagonvb Pretty conclusive I think... p.s. time to get the yellow paint out... Edited February 16, 2021 by Nickey Line Postscript added... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
locomad2 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 2 hours ago, Nickey Line said: That link is for A class tanks, but the B class tank page also has plenty of colour shots... with yellow axle boxes! Don't know how I've missed those previously... very poor! https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/essobtankwagonvb Pretty conclusive I think... p.s. time to get the yellow paint out... Plus the white bottom half on some ladders 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enfys_Rainbow Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Here's one from me, still have a couple to build one day... 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marly51 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 (edited) The Dapol ‘Rocket’ came in handy for my first CakeBox challenge - ‘Steam Punk Themed’. From over years ago, I have an original Airfix ‘Rocket’ which was moulded in yellow plastic and a ‘Pug’ somewhere in the attic. Currently using the chassis of a Dapol ‘Pug’ for next CakeBox model! Edited February 17, 2021 by Marly51 12 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
33C Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 That is quality! 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRAILRAGE Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 A couple of shots of my Built. Models 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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