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Thanks for sharing Fran.

 

Is there a happy ending with the TPE painting?

 

Those corridor connectors - how are they performing on tighter curves - not pushing each other off?

 

Al.

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1 minute ago, atom3624 said:

Thanks for sharing Fran.

 

Is there a happy ending with the TPE painting?

 

Those corridor connectors - how are they performing on tighter curves - not pushing each other off?

 

Al.

 

Hi Al,

 

Many thanks!

 

As explained in the update, we will know of the happy ending with the TPEs in approx 8 weeks time. As for the corridor connections, they will perform perfectly to radius 3 with our close couplings, and the tension locks will push them a bit further away for radius 2.

 

Cheers!

 

Fran 

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The Caledonian Sleeper coaches look rather special. As a real life ( what’s that ? ) passenger I’m booked on both northbound and southbound Deerstalker in Classic cabin….with shower ! …at the end of September. My destination will be Rannoch Station ,one of the most isolated main line stations in the UK. So I’ll check it out for you..

 

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Thanks for the update which, as usual, makes for an interesting read. The Caledonian examples look very good indeed, even before the minor improvements are made.

 

I wish all the best to the team at the factory. I can quite understand their frustration with the TPE models. These were always going to be a challenge, given the livery complexity, but I have complete confidence that the problems will be sorted out. You only have to look at your current catalogue as testament to your standards and dedication within the industry. Whilst the delays and setbacks are frustrating, it is perfectly understandable and I’m sure by and large, the vast majority of folk will be supportive.

 

My Class 68 will just have to wait at the depot just that little bit longer. :read:

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All I can say is WOW! These vehicles look exquisite!

 

Re TPE livery - presumably if Dapol managed it on their Class 68s it IS possible. But obviously you are using a different factory, and are a different entity to Dapol. A shame there isn't scope for partnership between Accurascale and Dapol, given that the Mk5s will need 68s and vice versa.

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50 minutes ago, Accurascale Fran said:

they will perform perfectly to radius 3 with our close couplings, and the tension locks will push them a bit further away for radius 2.

 

I see some track remodelling coming up then to make best use of them! I have like 3 R2 places on my layout and none of them I can really ban these from.

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4 minutes ago, G-BOAF said:

All I can say is WOW! These vehicles look exquisite!

 

Re TPE livery - presumably if Dapol managed it on their Class 68s it IS possible. But obviously you are using a different factory, and are a different entity to Dapol. A shame there isn't scope for partnership between Accurascale and Dapol, given that the Mk5s will need 68s and vice versa.

 

Thanks @G-BOAF

 

The one issue with the TPE paint job is the complexity of curves on the DT nose. The factory believes that this is the main culprit. It might be a bit of an ugly duckling, but my word does it have some complex curves going on!

 

Cheers!

 

Fran  

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1 hour ago, Accurascale Fran said:

Hi everyone,

 

Well the update was too big for the milkfloat, so it's now on our blog! Finally, an all new Mark 5 update including decorated samples. Check out what's been going on with both the Caledonian Sleepers and the TPE Mark 5s with lots more images and the full news story in our latest blog: https://accurascale.co.uk/blogs/news/sweet-dreams-are-made-of-these-decorated-mark-5s 

 

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(Please read the blog, it has all the info and took me ages to write it!)

 

Cheers,

 

Fran 

Hi Fran the mk5s do look truly great and im sure it's been frustrating with the setbacks on the TPE mk5s aswell but they are looking great also. Has there been any thoughts in to splitting the production of mk5s up so the sleeper mk5s are with people quicker? That being said they would still need a 92 for them Will they be closer to the arrival of the 92 now? 

 

Regards Gary 

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Just now, gary_lner said:

Hi Fran the mk5s do look truly great and im sure it's been frustrating with the setbacks on the TPE mk5s aswell but they are looking great also. Has there been any thoughts in to splitting the production of mk5s up so the sleeper mk5s are with people quicker. That being said they would still need a 92 for them 

 

Hi @gary_lner,

 

Many thanks.

 

Great point. We did discuss this with the factory but when we initially agreed on the production price it was for an entire production run based on one factory slot and the production lines are arranged for as such. If we split it into two the price would go up and we would have to pass that onto customers, and we're not keen to do that. It presents a bit of a catch 22 for us unfortunately. 

 

Cheers!

 

Fran 

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Looking at the couplings they look to be lower than scale height 

I understand that they are at this height to keep the NEM pocket at the correct height to allow for the fitting of other couplings

I had a thought & realise that it is probably to late to retool the couplings pockets but if you were to add a second MEN pocket above the standard NEM pocket then the deliner coupling could be placed in the top pocket to be closer to scale height.

The modified pics should illustrate my idea

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Should the diaphragm completely surrounds the couplings or not( as per you model), there are images of both arrangements

 

John

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1 hour ago, Ian Hargrave said:

The Caledonian Sleeper coaches look rather special. As a real life ( what’s that ? ) passenger I’m booked on both northbound and southbound Deerstalker in Classic cabin….with shower ! …at the end of September. My destination will be Rannoch Station ,one of the most isolated main line stations in the UK. So I’ll check it out for you..

 

A trip I've yet to make, as a worldwide bug altered my plans! I look forward to seeing plenty of pictures Ian, of both destination and accomodation!

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7 minutes ago, John ks said:

Looking at the couplings they look to be lower than scale height 

I understand that they are at this height to keep the NEM pocket at the correct height to allow for the fitting of other couplings

I had a thought & realise that it is probably to late to retool the couplings pockets but if you were to add a second MEN pocket above the standard NEM pocket then the deliner coupling could be placed in the top pocket to be closer to scale height.

The modified pics should illustrate my idea

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Should the diaphragm completely surrounds the couplings or not( as per you model), there are images of both arrangements

 

John

 

Hi John,

 

Unfortunately the second pocket would foul the kinematic mechanism. 

 

The Sleeper coach diaphragm originally surrounded the couplings but this is no longer the case as it was modified for service and our model reflects service condition. Again, a modification we had to account for in development.

 

Caledonian Sleeper Mk5 Crewe

 

Cheers!

 

Fran 

 

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1 minute ago, Islesy said:

A trip I've yet to make, as a worldwide bug altered my plans! I look forward to seeing plenty of pictures Ian, of both destination and accomodation!


Not hard to guess the accommodation.I’m strictly beyond roughing it anyway. It’s my version of moment from The Thirty  Nine Steps hopefully without being shot at.. I’m doing it for the hell of it and the experience of a sleeper which will be new to me.Hotel looks the business and will meet me with breakfast at 8:40 on morning of arrival and will provide dinner before I board the southbound service at 21:10. …which means one night actually in a hotel room bed . No mobile & no internet signal. Hugely expensive and I’ve yet to find reasonable secure parking at Crewe for 

 three days/nights. Must be mad But something to do before I fall off the tree.

 

 

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14 minutes ago, Ian Hargrave said:


Not hard to guess the accommodation.I’m strictly beyond roughing it anyway. It’s my version of moment from The Thirty  Nine Steps hopefully without being shot at.. I’m doing it for the hell of it and the experience of a sleeper which will be new to me.Hotel looks the business and will meet me with breakfast at 8:40 on morning of arrival and will provide dinner before I board the southbound service at 21:10. …which means one night actually in a hotel room bed . No mobile & no internet signal. Hugely expensive and I’ve yet to find reasonable secure parking at Crewe for 

 three days/nights. Must be mad But something to do before I fall off the tree.

 

 

It sounds eminently sane to me. I hope they have the hot water in the showers sorted out for your trip and that everyone who is supposed to meet the train with food does so. Enjoy a dram!

 

My one and only trip on a sleeper was in 1984. I hopped off in Carlisle to take photographs and kept an eye on the end coach from fear of being left behind. When things started to look busy, I hopped on and made my way forward only to find that I was on a rake of coaches which had been detached. I barely reached my train in time!

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2 hours ago, Accurascale Fran said:

Hi everyone,

 

Well the update was too big for the milkfloat, so it's now on our blog! Finally, an all new Mark 5 update including decorated samples. Check out what's been going on with both the Caledonian Sleepers and the TPE Mark 5s with lots more images and the full news story in our latest blog: https://accurascale.co.uk/blogs/news/sweet-dreams-are-made-of-these-decorated-mark-5s 

 

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(Please read the blog, it has all the info and took me ages to write it!)

 

Cheers,

 

Fran 

Thanks, Fran. Good news and bad news there. More breathing space for the TPEs but a shortie sleeper rake looks increasingly irresistible. That will mean a loco as well.

 

I wonder if anyone will acquire an eighteen coach train, a 92 and some 73s in order to carry out the shunting which goes on.

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54 minutes ago, Accurascale Fran said:

 

Hi John,

 

Unfortunately the second pocket would foul the kinematic mechanism. 

 

The Sleeper coach diaphragm originally surrounded the couplings but this is no longer the case as it was modified for service and our model reflects service condition. Again, a modification we had to account for in development.

 

Caledonian Sleeper Mk5 Crewe

 

Cheers!

 

Fran 

 

 

I was trying to figure out what was slightly off about the windows on the model but couldn't put my finger on it. But that i see this picture it is the lack of black / rubber surrounds! Feel less crazy now. 

 

They are great looking models though.

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38 minutes ago, Csalem said:

 

I was trying to figure out what was slightly off about the windows on the model but couldn't put my finger on it. But that i see this picture it is the lack of black / rubber surrounds! Feel less crazy now. 

 

They are great looking models though.

 

Well spotted, on the list for tweaks and corrections :)

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3 hours ago, Accurascale Fran said:

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Well these do look the mutts nuts! I am curious though. Do you think these couplings will hold a 16 coach train going up a gradient? I guess if they can't, we can fall back on tension locks.

 

Cheers,

 

Marcus

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4 minutes ago, Marcus-Jay said:

 

Well these do look the mutts nuts! I am curious though. Do you think these couplings will hold a 16 coach train going up a gradient? I guess if they can't, we can fall back on tension locks.

 

Cheers,

 

Marcus

 

They are magnet to magnet x 2, and we're testing that extensively, but they are quite powerful :)

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6 minutes ago, Marcus-Jay said:

 

Well these do look the mutts nuts! I am curious though. Do you think these couplings will hold a 16 coach train going up a gradient? I guess if they can't, we can fall back on tension locks.

 

Cheers,

 

Marcus

Now I know someone intends to run a full length train! Good on yer! Are you going to model the shunting as well? :O

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2 minutes ago, No Decorum said:

Now I know someone intends to run a full length train! Good on yer! Are you going to model the shunting as well? :O

 

No, but the Highland Sleeper rescuing the Lowland Sleeper on Shap would be a sight to behold :yahoo:

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2 hours ago, Ian Hargrave said:


Not hard to guess the accommodation.I’m strictly beyond roughing it anyway. It’s my version of moment from The Thirty  Nine Steps hopefully without being shot at.. I’m doing it for the hell of it and the experience of a sleeper which will be new to me.Hotel looks the business and will meet me with breakfast at 8:40 on morning of arrival and will provide dinner before I board the southbound service at 21:10. …which means one night actually in a hotel room bed . No mobile & no internet signal. Hugely expensive and I’ve yet to find reasonable secure parking at Crewe for 

 three days/nights. Must be mad But something to do before I fall off the tree.

 

 

 

Perhaps you should start a thread about the parking. Sure there must be an RMWeb member living in Crewe.

 

There are some streets a little way east of the station where I think that you would be safe parking on-street.

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2 hours ago, Accurascale Fran said:

 

Hi @gary_lner,

 

Many thanks.

 

Great point. We did discuss this with the factory but when we initially agreed on the production price it was for an entire production run based on one factory slot and the production lines are arranged for as such. If we split it into two the price would go up and we would have to pass that onto customers, and we're not keen to do that. It presents a bit of a catch 22 for us unfortunately. 

 

Cheers!

 

Fran 

Hi Fran that makes perfect sense. Spreading the cost over the whole mk5 range to give the price we have is great.

 

Looking forward to seeing the tpe mk5s in the coming weeks.

 

Regards Gary

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