RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted November 21, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 21, 2019 (edited) Hi everyone, Well, we seem to have made a lot of peoples week this week with our 37 announcement, but this is where we break some bad news with a delay to the 92. We have been doing a lot of work in the background on this loco and it's going to be gorgeous when it gets here, but to be innovative takes time and a lot of effort, especially around the operating pans. We are getting there though! More info here, which I hope gives you an insight into the work that has gone into these models. We want these to be game changers, and we reckon they will be! https://accurascale.co.uk/blogs/news/class-92-update Cheers, and apologies for this delay. Fran Edited November 21, 2019 by Accurascale Fran 5 1 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack374 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Personally I’m willing to wait as long as it takes for a Dyson. A high spec one (let alone a space-age one from Accurascale) has been a very long time coming so it’s no hardship. The pans are arguably the hardest, most delicate parts to get right so I’m intrigued as to the solution that you've come up with. IMHO no one has got a pantograph (sprung or motorised) 100% 'right' yet - although each version of 'right' differs between folk... The new artwork looks great and I look forward to the end result. At least my bank account can rest slightly! Oh wait, I also want a class 37...hmmm....... Jack. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouroborus Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Its not "bad news". It didn't work first time, so you've had another try at making it work. I like that. It would have been easy to give up, but you didn't. Good for you. We can wait. 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluo66 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Fran, thanks for the detailed update. I never wanted a class 92 because my layout has no catenery. But it is very hard for me to resist a model with working pantographs and all the other features you have described. Now I think that I will buy at least one. It is worth the wait for a perfect model like this. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRDBLUE17 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Hi Fran, Thanks for the update and no worries about the delays. Well worth it to get what is going to be a stunning machine right. Plus will give more tie to save to upgrade to sound fitted as well. thanks Mark 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
classy52 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Hi Fran, In light of this announcement I think you now owe us a Special Edition...something colourful perhaps Cheers Steve 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 The delay is fine by me, more time to collate the needed funds! I'd rather more time was taken to get things right than release a subpar model. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brittannia Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Thanks for the update on the 92, you always said the working pantograph was always going to be the challenging part of the model .I am sure everybody interested in the 92 will be happy to have the delay and the working pantograph, especially at no cost for all the extra work and stress you have encountered, plus no price increase gives us more time to think of ordering an extra 92, Keep up the good work Regards John 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted November 21, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 21, 2019 Gosh the 92 just seems to be kryptonite for China ! Good luck, we’ve not had a decent one since the Lima one disappeared from the shelves 2 decades back. I’m sure it’ll be good when it comes. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGR Hooper! Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Hey Fran! Personally I don't care whether you'll deliver a Class 92 with a working pantograph (like you'll have described) or a poseable one (like on the Hornby Class 87), either way I am glad someone is doing a high-spec Class 92 and something that I am sure of getting without any drama or money going missing. This delay is a relief also, I have time to save up for the model and possibly get one or two more now. Please do take your time. The CAD work and artwork looks fabulous. I wish you'll could've had a 3D printed sample ready for Warley. 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 The working pantograph is a nice touch but of no real use to me as my layout is (or will be when I get around to laying it) third rail territory. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 (edited) 16 hours ago, Accurascale Fran said: Hi everyone, Well, we seem to have made a lot of peoples week this week with our 37 announcement, but this is where we break some bad news with a delay to the 92. We have been doing a lot of work in the background on this loco and it's going to be gorgeous when it gets here, but to be innovative takes time and a lot of effort, especially around the operating pans. We are getting there though! More info here, which I hope gives you an insight into the work that has gone into these models. We want these to be game changers, and we reckon they will be! https://accurascale.co.uk/blogs/news/class-92-update Cheers, and apologies for this delay. Fran If you do the version shown with Europorte transfers, I wonder if you can do the streaks of grime that run from the cantrail, under the vinyl, then down to the bottom of the side? Edited November 22, 2019 by Fat Controller Spelling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter123 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 15 hours ago, Accurascale Fran said: Hi everyone, Well, we seem to have made a lot of peoples week this week with our 37 announcement, but this is where we break some bad news with a delay to the 92. We have been doing a lot of work in the background on this loco and it's going to be gorgeous when it gets here, but to be innovative takes time and a lot of effort, especially around the operating pans. We are getting there though! More info here, which I hope gives you an insight into the work that has gone into these models. We want these to be game changers, and we reckon they will be! https://accurascale.co.uk/blogs/news/class-92-update Cheers, and apologies for this delay. Fran Disappointing news on the delay, but bringing a product to market is an incredibly complex process and speed bumps are inevitable & understandable. Wish you guys well and best to get things as close to perfect as possible. Just a quick question on 92043. On your website, the Europorte 2 logo is illustrated next to the cab door, whereas on here the SNCF logo is visible . Personally I prefer the SNCF version but can't find any pictures to show when it existed. Please can you clarify which version you will be producing? Appreciate you are all preparing for Warley at the moment. Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Those pans were always going to be a hefty challenge to get as working models while remaining true to prototype. The real thing has a rod running inside a tube or U channel which is a huge challenge in this scale (+ make it robust enough for regular use). Indeed, these pans look like they may end up being more innovative than the Dyson cleaners themselves! Great to see Accurascale pushing the boundaries but a working pan is not critical for me personally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold McC Posted November 22, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 22, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Winter123 said: Just a quick question on 92043. On your website, the Europorte 2 logo is illustrated next to the cab door, whereas on here the SNCF logo is visible . Personally I prefer the SNCF version but can't find any pictures to show when it existed. Please can you clarify which version you will be producing? Appreciate you are all preparing for Warley at the moment. Cheers Good morning! 92043 will be depicted as below: Similar to the below, Edited November 22, 2019 by McC 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted November 22, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 22, 2019 (edited) Perhaps you could do 92020 Milton in its 2001-2018 period... Solves the pantograph issue nicely. :-) Despite it being 25 years old, to think until 2019, no one of less than adult age would have seen it working... It was built at the same time the A1ST were collating drawings, and went in to storage before 60163 had its wheels under its frames, yet only returned as Tornado is reaching the years towards its first boiler overhaul. Indeed 92006 in Glasgow was a new spot for me in service, last week, and I saw them being built, yet it had been idle since the around the time Class 87’s were still in service. Edited November 22, 2019 by adb968008 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted November 23, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 23, 2019 It’s good to see 92 006 back. Indeed it was the loco we surveyed at Brush! Cheers! Fran 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritishRail60062 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Thanks for the update on the Class 92. Take as long as you need to make the model right. I am in no rush and I am one that can wait ;). 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Markwj Posted November 23, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 23, 2019 In no rush and indeed the delay has got me thinking about ordering a second model now I have time to save up but working Pantograph is not a deal breaker for me. As long as they are durable and poseable that would be fine although obviously I can't speak for anyone else. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritishRail60062 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Personally I am not bothered either way in regards to a working pantograph. As long as it is poseable, I am fine with that because it will still be a grand model in my opinion anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
classy52 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 GBRf 92032 - 'IMechE Railway Division' ordered for my ICA's. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
raetiamann Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 A quick question from me, will the locos be produced with or with the 3rd rail gear? Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted November 24, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 24, 2019 1 hour ago, raetiamann said: A quick question from me, will the locos be produced with or with the 3rd rail gear? Thanks Hi there, yes, 3rd rail shoes will be present on Locos except for those which had them removed in recent years, depending on condition. Is there a particular one you are interested in? Cheers! Fran Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus-Jay Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 16 minutes ago, Accurascale Fran said: yes, 3rd rail shoes will be present on Locos except for those which had them removed in recent years Ohh.. Will they lift up like the pantograph? (Sorry Fran, I've been waiting for that humour opportunity) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
raetiamann Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 50 minutes ago, Accurascale Fran said: Hi there, yes, 3rd rail shoes will be present on Locos except for those which had them removed in recent years, depending on condition. Is there a particular one you are interested in? Cheers! Fran Not sure just now, I need to do some research. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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