RMweb Gold Market65 Posted June 15, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 15, 2019 Good evening everyone. This evening I have a class 142 on the 12.53 from Hull to Sheffield today. This example is 142096, and has a good amount of rust and some holes around most of the bodyside windows. One cab roof seems to have a small bulge on it’s top too! Anyway, on departing, it didn’t squeal too much, compared to most others. Best regards, Rob. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Claude_Dreyfus Posted June 16, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 16, 2019 A few taken at Leeds station - Saturday 15th June. 142016 departs with the 2F13 11:58 Leeds to Knottingley 144012 forms another Knottingley services - the 2A15 12:28 departure. 142093 leaves with the 2N13 12:30 Leeds - Sheffield. Yet another Knottingley services (the 2F15 12:58 departure) is formed by the double act of 142018 and 153358. 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted June 16, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 16, 2019 Well, everyone, the news we’ve all been waiting for. The first nine of the brand new CAF units will officially enter service on the 1st of July. Another 12, I think it is, are then to be allocated for maintenance and driver training etc., Northern have said that the new units will enter service in tranches. 70% of them are to be in use by the end of December which hopefully will be enough new units to see off all of the Pacers. All this information is from RailUkForums, and given here in good faith. Best regards, Rob. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted June 21, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 21, 2019 I visited Sheffield this afternoon, and amongst all the 142’s and 144’s I took photo’s of the following Pacers. Firstly is a three car 144, 144022, on Leeds service departing at 16.18. And secondly, 144009 on the 16.05 to Adwick. Best regards, Rob. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Claude_Dreyfus Posted June 22, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 22, 2019 (edited) A few taken at Skipton, back in August 1994. Yorkshire PTE red and cream rule the day! 144001 on a morning service to Leeds Not too sure where 142067 was off to. 142067 on a Bradford service 3-car 144017 also on a Leeds service, later in the day. 144007 stabled for the night A couple of days later, a day trip to the North Yorkshire Moors line presented 142020 on a Whitby - Middlesborough service. Edited August 6, 2019 by Claude_Dreyfus Correct order 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBRJ Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 Those shots are wonderful..Thats the technicolor world I joined when I first started on the Railway ..... I was thinking its all way too recent to be all misty eyed - but its near on quarter of a century ago 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium JDW Posted June 23, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 23, 2019 Unusual livery variation on 144017 too, I've never seen white Regional Railways logos on the red part before, they're usually red on the cream band. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 4630 Posted June 28, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 28, 2019 I noticed on Twitter earlier that Andrew Jones MP, Parliamentary Under Secretary of State at the Department for Transport responsible for the railways, who was at Doncaster today for the press launch of Northern's class 331 - they commence public service between Leeds and Doncaster on 1st July - was quoted as saying that the first Pacer withdrawals by Northern will take place in August. 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessy1692 Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 They seemed to have dissapeared on the Leeds Harrogate York curcuit, havnt seen/heard one in a while now, all 170s and the occasional 158 it seems. Might have missed my last ride on one 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 still regular in both Wakefield stations though some might go from the Westgate line when the Avalons come into service next week on Leeds-Doncaster 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted June 29, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 29, 2019 Here’s another couple of photo’s of 142096 from the 15th June at Hull Paragon station when it formed the 12.53 class 2 to Sheffield. You can clearly see the rot around the windows in the enlightenment in the second photo’. The 144’s don’t seem to be as badly affected as the 142’s are. Best regards, Rob. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo675 Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 Hi Folks, Have they not scrapped them ALL yet ? I am still traumatised from travelling to college in Preston upon them over THIRTY years ago ! Gibbo. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted June 29, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 29, 2019 This is typical of the corrosion that you get when you wrap a steel vehicle in vinyl. It doesn't take much for the water to get behind the vinyl and get trapped causing the rust. And its not just pacers that are effected, the MK 3 bodyshells of the HST's and the Wessex Electrics and other EMU and DMU's are all suffering. As an aside, getting parts of your car powder coated can result in the same effect! Andy G 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
david.hill64 Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 The Times today carries a report that Northern pacers may continue to operate into next year because of the problems with the new CAF units. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
south_tyne Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 Still plenty of Pacers to be seen between Newcastle and Sunderland. Good to see more 158s in service up here though. 5 minutes ago, david.hill64 said: The Times today carries a report that Northern pacers may continue to operate into next year because of the problems with the new CAF units. Will that be allowed with the DDA regulations? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
david.hill64 Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 19 minutes ago, south_tyne said: Still plenty of Pacers to be seen between Newcastle and Sunderland. Good to see more 158s in service up here though. Will that be allowed with the DDA regulations? Only if we grovel to the EU for a derogation I think. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talltim Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, david.hill64 said: Only if we grovel to the EU for a derogation I think. Nothing to do with the EU. The PRM (not DDA) deadline is purely a British invention. i regret not grabbing a snap of a 142 at Chesterfield a couple of weeks ago. Apparently Northern’s Random Unit Generator had stuck it on a Leeds-Nottingham and it was terminated early in platform 3 at Chesterfield to form the return working, due I believe, to not being cleared for the route south Edited June 30, 2019 by Talltim 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
david.hill64 Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Talltim said: Nothing to do with the EU. The PRM (not DDA) deadline is purely a British invention. True: UK was required to submit a plan for compliance with the TSI. We did, and the plan stated that all vehicles would be substantially compliant by the end of 2019. ORR is the enforcer. A sound plan as it links to the DDA requirement. The DDA certainly requires compliance by the end of the year so not sure what will happen about that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Rowsley17D Posted June 30, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 30, 2019 Looks as though there will definitely more time to take those last few photos. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-48816961 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted June 30, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 30, 2019 There’s no real surprise that a small number of those units will continue to run into next year since the coupler problem with the new units has slowed their introduction into service down. Just as long as they are all gone by this time next year at the very latest. I hope, when it gets to August, and the very first Pacer is formally withdrawn, that it is a ‘high profile withdrawal’ and that further information about the programme to withdraw the rest of the Pacers is made public. Best regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted June 30, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 30, 2019 (edited) Just had a pair of pacers from Bolton to Wigan, only to find another pair sitting there for the return... I thought they were banned from working solely as a 142 combo ? apart from that, those 4 were my only pacers I’ve seen in my North West Sojurn this weekend.. none in Bolton, Preston, Blackpool where’ve they gone ? saw a 319 in Bolton platform 2, and track laid on platform 5.. whole place covered in wires... that place changed very quickly, only thing it lacks now is a regular train service... where’ve they all gone ? - it was like being in a different dimension to the one I recall. Edited June 30, 2019 by adb968008 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheatley Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 On 29/06/2019 at 20:34, uax6 said: This is typical of the corrosion that you get when you wrap a steel vehicle in vinyl. It doesn't take much for the water to get behind the vinyl and get trapped causing the rust. And its not just pacers that are effected, the MK 3 bodyshells of the HST's and the Wessex Electrics and other EMU and DMU's are all suffering. As an aside, getting parts of your car powder coated can result in the same effect! Andy G No vinyl on 142s apart from numbers, logos etc, they were brush painted at NH. They can continue to operate beyond 2019 coupled to a compatible unit (eg 150) or with the toilets locked out. At the moment there is no restriction on 2x142s working together. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owd Bob Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 Only casually watching from a distance over my local rail lines over the last few weeks and not had a real chance to stand and spend much time train watching lately but i've not seen a 142 on the Wigan-Bolton or Wigan-Manchester lines for a few weeks now, only seen 150's. I must go out and try better to find some this week! Saw an article and Mayor Andy Burnham on the local BBC telly last night moaning about them staying on in service longer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jbqfc Posted July 1, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 1, 2019 some from Leeds and Doncaster 144011 by john brace, on Flickr 142089 by john brace, on Flickr 142095 by john brace, on Flickr 142024 by john brace, on Flickr 142088 by john brace, on Flickr 144001 by john brace, on Flickr 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 4630 Posted July 9, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 9, 2019 (edited) On 8th July whilst waiting for the first CAF class 195 to turn up at Huddersfield - photos on this thread - ...I pointed the camera at a few Pacers that were lurking about. Since the start of the summer timetable, around Huddersfield and the Calder Valley Northern 142s and 143s seem now to be more likely diagrammed on the Huddersfield-Castleford and Huddersfield-Leeds via Bradford Interchange services. Both are relatively short journeys. Previously the 142s at least had been regular performers along the Calder Valley on Leeds-Southport services. Northern 142070 idles away at platform 4A... ..and then departs with 2W04, 08.53 Huddersfield to Leeds via Bradford Interchange. 142021 sits at platform 5 waiting to form 2O66, 09.03 Huddersfield to Castleford. A short while later along the Calder Valley at Brighouse, Northern 142096 brings up the rear of 2W09, 09.06 Leeds to Huddersfield via Bradford Interchange... ... with 144021 passing as 2W06, 09.53 Huddersfield to Leeds via Bradford Interchange. A video of 144021 with 2W06 is here. Edited July 10, 2019 by 4630 To correct a typo and to add a link to a video. 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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