Owd Bob Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Great pics adb! Looks like Bolton to me. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium boxbrownie Posted October 21, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 21, 2019 TV stars again, Mayors are demanding lower fares on old Pacers.......good luck with that one! 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, boxbrownie said: TV stars again, Mayors are demanding lower fares on old Pacers.......good luck with that one! I'd love to see how they are going to police this one; it might start out at the beginning of the day with all the stock on its planned Diagrams, but within a few hours (even without a major incident), I'm pretty certain some will be running out of their planned paths. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted October 21, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 21, 2019 I’m a member of another railway forum, and we are all suggesting that the lower fares thing is just a political stunt, by those concerned, to make all the ‘right noises’ at a difficult time in our history. Myself, as I’ve stated before, I’d love to see all the four wheel abominations withdrawn and scrapped, but the realist in me says that they will continue for at least another year if not longer. The new units, both electric and diesel are having far too many problems, and need much longer than originally expected to get them all into service. Today the 195’s have gone into service between Leeds and Chester, but are experiencing some difficulties, especially with the doors, so some 156’s and 158’s are having to cover for them. That means Pacers, which may have been withdrawn today are having to continue in use. Best regards, Rob. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpendle Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 5 hours ago, eastwestdivide said: Where were the other shots taken? Bolton? The second pic is definitely Bolton Trinity Street looking towards the Town Hall. The first looks like the footbridge to the south of Trinity Street, with a train bound for Manchester. Regards, John P 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 4630 Posted October 22, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 22, 2019 A post on Twitter this morning giving the 'final' dates when classes 142 and 144 will be used in 2020 by Northern. https://twitter.com/Clinnick1/status/1186590028664844288?s=20 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted October 23, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 23, 2019 (edited) On 21/10/2019 at 10:14, Owd Bob said: Great pics adb! Looks like Bolton to me. Yes Bolton, I grew up close by, Tuesday and Thursday nights would be a regular gathering at the unprotected “cliff edge” south of the station to watch the GUS parcels shunt amongst other things... this is where I got confidence to travel... cycled 3 miles here at 12years old.. parents thought I was at the bottom of the street... by 14 that “bottom of the street” would be Crewe, by the time class 50’s were going I was in London watching them.. My cover story was a great one.. I could afford the film, but spent the processing money on train tickets, meaning the evidence was hidden nearly 10 years before I’d left uni, got a job and could afford to process them, unfortunately time did affect some as seen here.. Edited October 23, 2019 by adb968008 14 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted October 23, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 23, 2019 Today, the 15.18 from Hull to York was formed of 144008. Here’s a photo’ of it just prior to departure from platform 4. Best regards, Rob. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessy1692 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 My Dads been riding around on Northern ranger tickets at least once a week for the last month or so and he seems to think that Northern are shoving the 144s & 142s over the pennines to Yorkshire a bit more now, think the people of the West deserve a break from them! No science to it other than his observations and probably the new trains coming on stream. Next time i get chance to join him ill snap as many as i can Cheer James Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted October 24, 2019 Author Share Posted October 24, 2019 10 hours ago, jessy1692 said: My Dads been riding around on Northern ranger tickets at least once a week for the last month or so and he seems to think that Northern are shoving the 144s & 142s over the pennines to Yorkshire a bit more now, think the people of the West deserve a break from them! No science to it other than his observations and probably the new trains coming on stream. Next time i get chance to join him ill snap as many as i can Cheer James As an inhabitant of the East (well, S Yorks), it doesn't (unscientifically) seem like there are any more Pacers than usual over the last umpteen years. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonC Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 11 hours ago, adb968008 said: Yes Bolton, I grew up close by, Tuesday and Thursday nights would be a regular gathering at the unprotected “cliff edge” south of the station to watch the GUS parcels shunt amongst other things... this is where I got confidence to travel... cycled 3 miles here at 12years old.. parents thought I was at the bottom of the street... by 14 that “bottom of the street” would be Crewe, by the time class 50’s were going I was in London watching them.. My cover story was a great one.. I could afford the film, but spent the processing money on train tickets, meaning the evidence was hidden nearly 10 years before I’d left uni, got a job and could afford to process them, unfortunately time did affect some as seen here.. Is that mould on the slide? it might be possible to clean that off or alternatively, some film scanners can automatically get rid of marks or dust etc. on the slide when scanning Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted October 24, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 24, 2019 12 hours ago, GordonC said: Is that mould on the slide? it might be possible to clean that off or alternatively, some film scanners can automatically get rid of marks or dust etc. on the slide when scanning Yes somethings eating the slide. i scanned them in 7 years back, to ensure I at least had a digital scan before they were eaten. I tried cleaning but didn't find a solution. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northmoor Posted October 24, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, adb968008 said: Yes somethings eating the slide. i scanned them in 7 years back, to ensure I at least had a digital scan before they were eaten. I tried cleaning but didn't find a solution. Sadly you won't find one, the fungus grows on the colour emulsion and will always leave a mark. Remove it altogether and you'll strip the emulsion and hence destroy the image. My father has a roll or two of slides from about 1969 of Class 29s on the West Highland which are badly affected. Just keep the slides in a dry environment and it shouldn't get worse, while some work in Photoshop or similar will get round it in the digital images (nice shots anyway though). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owd Bob Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 25-10-'19. Heavy rain at Crow Nest Junc' Hindley, Lancs' 142 049 on the Blackburn-Southport at 2.11pm. The Tees Yard-Knowsley freight pulled by 66174 passes 142 020 on the Wigan-Stalybridge at 2.13pm. 142 058 on the Southport-Blackburn at 2.30pm. 12 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Mc Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 25/10/19 142043 at Huddersfield 144002 at Wakefield Westgate... ... and Leeds (alongside 91105) 142011 at Leeds... ... and Huddersfield (working with 153360) 144009 at Leeds Jack 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Welly Posted October 26, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 26, 2019 (edited) Seems apt to see the 91 alongside the 144 - both 1980s vintage traction and a massive contrast! Edited October 26, 2019 by Welly Failed to spot the correct Pacer class!! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
royaloak Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 (edited) On 15/10/2019 at 09:24, Talltim said: It’s not like they had 20 years to plan to replace or PRM upgrade them or anything... Why would a government 20/15/10/5 years ago bother looking at replacement trains today, they would be long out of office so not their problem, they are only interested in their 5 year Governing period and couldnt care less about what they leave behind, that goes for the roads as well as the railways. Dont try to say its the railways problem, unfortunately the railway hasnt been in charge of train procurement since privatisation. Edited October 26, 2019 by royaloak 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted October 26, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 26, 2019 Back on Thursday, the 24th October, the 13.53 to Sheffield from Hull was formed of 144020. That day was characterised by a big shortage of DMU’s - there had been a notable number of failures. Most services were either Pacers or 153’s, or just cancelled that day. Best regards, Rob. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Davexoc Posted October 26, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 26, 2019 And in their defence.... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-derbyshire-50144961/pacer-trains-can-hardly-be-described-as-a-failure?intlink_from_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbc.co.uk%2Fnews%2Ftopics%2Fce1qrvlellmt%2Ftransport&link_location=live-reporting-map 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stuart A Posted October 26, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 26, 2019 Victoria tonight. I'd just got off the 195 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Welly Posted October 27, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 27, 2019 16 hours ago, Davexoc said: And in their defence.... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-derbyshire-50144961/pacer-trains-can-hardly-be-described-as-a-failure?intlink_from_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbc.co.uk%2Fnews%2Ftopics%2Fce1qrvlellmt%2Ftransport&link_location=live-reporting-map 141113 is the very last 141 Pacer that I rode on way back in the late 1990s! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northmoor Posted October 27, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 27, 2019 I don't think anyone here is saying they (Pacers) are a failure. What most people - passengers especially - believe, is that they are unsatisfactory. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owd Bob Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 A couple of bad & blurry frosty pic's from Springs Branch. Orange 142 from 4th Jan' 1993. ...and 142 028 from 23rd Dec' 1994....both days a bit white & frosty like it is today around here! 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpb56125 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 142036 at Crewe on 28th October 2019 working vice EMU. Mark 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jbqfc Posted October 28, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 28, 2019 some from Leeds and Doncaster 10-10-19 142065 by john brace, on Flickr 144004 by john brace, on Flickr 144018 by john brace, on Flickr 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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