eastwestdivide Posted May 21, 2020 Author Share Posted May 21, 2020 On 19/05/2020 at 16:41, eastwestdivide said: Just saw a 143+150 combo on the Dawlish webcam. They're not dead yet! quoting myself - I read somewhere this morning (sorry, can't remember where) that after a period out of use, the 143s are being added 143s to other 2-car units in Devon to provide plenty of space for social distancing. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium JDW Posted May 21, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 21, 2020 That would make sense. So it can't possibly be true 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black and decker boy Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Same in South Wales apparently. however in Northern land, the 144s stored on KWVR seem to be done and now being dispersed to new owners. 144006&007 today heading to Gobowen and preservation with Cambrian Railways 1 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Phil Mc Posted May 23, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 23, 2020 IIRC, the derogation for use of Northern pacers ends on 31.5, so it’s highly unlikely any will see any more service ! cheers, Phil. 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliepetty Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 On 23/05/2020 at 11:57, Phil Mc said: IIRC, the derogation for use of Northern pacers ends on 31.5, so it’s highly unlikely any will see any more service ! cheers, Phil. Does Grant Chapps know they have 22 Pacers in Yorkshire with Social Distancing for at least 25+ Passengers. I bet he has not been told this!!!!!!!!!!!! Charlie 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Mc Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 29.05.20 - 5Z44 - 1100 Keighley to Worksop Down Reception 144001 'Penistone Line Partnership' is seen passing Swinton (S. Yorks). Jack 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 4630 Posted May 29, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 29, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jack Mc said: 29.05.20 - 5Z44 - 1100 Keighley to Worksop Down Reception 144001 'Penistone Line Partnership' is seen passing Swinton (S. Yorks). ...and a few minutes earlier passing through Sandal & Agbrigg. Apologies that the photos were taken at maximum telephoto setting on the lens - a late running CrossCountry Voyager (1S39 Plymouth-Edinburgh) was intent on photo-bombing. Edited May 29, 2020 by 4630 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northmoor Posted May 29, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 29, 2020 2 hours ago, 4630 said: Apologies that the photos were taken at maximum telephoto setting on the lens - a late running CrossCountry Voyager (1S39 Plymouth-Edinburgh) was intent on photo-bombing. Apologies - what for? It makes for much more interesting shots than the usual identical three-quarter view. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 4630 Posted May 29, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 29, 2020 11 minutes ago, Northmoor said: Apologies - what for? It makes for much more interesting shots than the usual identical three-quarter view. Yes to an extent I completely agree with you. But when I arrived at S&A and was sizing up in my 'minds eye' the composition that I was after, I'd envisaged photographing the Pacer a little bit closer to the end of the platform so it was larger in the frame. The Voyager was literally at my right shoulder when I pressed the shutter. I suppose what I'm saying is that in this case, for me, the photo is a bit of a compromise - but at least I got it. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black and decker boy Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 New derogation letters issued today by DfT for continued use by Northern until 31.12.2020 13 class 142s and 20 class 144s listed. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/arriva-rail-north-accessibility-compliance-dispensation 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted June 1, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 1, 2020 44 minutes ago, black and decker boy said: New derogation letters issued today by DfT for continued use by Northern until 31.12.2020 13 class 142s and 20 class 144s listed. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/arriva-rail-north-accessibility-compliance-dispensation I thought Arriva Rail North ceased to be the operator of Northern from 1st March 2020? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted June 1, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 1, 2020 Perhaps they made a mistake.....but, at least we may see more Pacers in use in the near future. Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheatley Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 (edited) The new derogation letters are correctly addressed to Northern Trains Ltd. The others are all the December 2019 originals. Edited June 1, 2020 by Wheatley 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliepetty Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 Good morning everyone, as you will have seen we have now formally announced that the Pacer Rail Group are the proud owners of 142055 and is being homed at Foxfield Railway. A huge thankyou to all those who have worked tiredlesy behind the scenes and the support from those who have donated to help raise funds. We have a lot to do now to get the unit moved from Gascoigne Wood to Foxfield Railway, and to get a full training package in place to enable to have the unit operating as quickly as possible. Please do support us by becoming a member or make a kind donation, just visit our website for further details. Www.pacerrail.org 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owd Bob Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 Great news charlie Here's 055 on the very last time i saw it running on Wigan Wallgate.16-12-19. 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 9 hours ago, charliepetty said: Good morning everyone, as you will have seen we have now formally announced that the Pacer Rail Group are the proud owners of 142055 and is being homed at Foxfield Railway. would be crazy sight to see it on the colliery bank, i dont think it could actually get up it though 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northmoor Posted June 16, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 16, 2020 32 minutes ago, sir douglas said: would be crazy sight to see it on the colliery bank, i dont think it could actually get up it though Power to weight is good by rail standards, so climbing the bank would be no problem. However in slippery conditions they aren't known for good adhesion, so if descending Foxfield bank I'd set the points for the longest siding at the colliery if I were you. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
avonside1563 Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 Unlikely to be anywhere near Foxfield Bank until the infrastructure issues that prevent passenger working into the coliery are addressed. It will also require a whole new safety case writing and plenty of testing before it will be allowed to operate services. Its operation is also dependent on it being able negotiate the line successfully as we have numerous tight curves that already test Mk1 stock and there has, in the past, been restrictions on the use of long rigid wheelbase vehicles for this reason. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted June 17, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 17, 2020 Ah, so plenty of flange squeal to relive then! Have you managed to get a unit with decent tyre thickness...or spare wheelsets... Andy G Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 8 hours ago, uax6 said: Ah, so plenty of flange squeal to relive then! Have you managed to get a unit with decent tyre thickness...or spare wheelsets... Andy G Monoblock wheels are fitted to these 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 4630 Posted June 19, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 19, 2020 (edited) Reported on another forum that some of the Northern 144s that are currently in store on the Keighley & Worth Valley Railway are being given a run out along the Aire Valley line on 20th June. Timings available here Edited June 19, 2020 by 4630 2 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aire Head Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 16 hours ago, 4630 said: Reported on another forum that some of the Northern 144s that are currently in store on the Keighley & Worth Valley Railway are being given a run out along the Aire Valley line on 20th June. Timings available here Of course in at work and therefore can't sit in the back garden and watch them go past 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 4630 Posted June 20, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Aire Head said: Of course in at work and therefore can't sit in the back garden and watch them go past You have my sympathies. Ordinarily I'd have driven over from Huddersfield to Apperley Bridge or Kirkstall Forge to photograph a couple of the workings, but I too have other commitments today. I think we can confidently predict though that the 144s will be coming out again before too long. For one thing, with the lockdown easing and anticipated reduction in social distancing measures, I imagine that the K&WVR would quite like to start running a few of their own trains. On the assumption of course that they can get their bridge replacement work completed at Ingrow, which was paused at the end of March when lockdown started. At least storing the Northern 144s on the K&WVR will have provided them with a bit of unexpected income. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aire Head Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 59 minutes ago, 4630 said: You have my sympathies. Ordinarily I'd have driven over from Huddersfield to Apperley Bridge or Kirkstall Forge to photograph a couple of the workings, but I too have other commitments today. I think we can confidently predict though that the 144s will be coming out again before too long. For one thing, with the lockdown easing and anticipated reduction in social distancing measures, I imagine that the K&WVR would quite like to start running a few of their own trains. On the assumption of course that they can get their bridge replacement work completed at Ingrow, which was paused at the end of March when lockdown started. At least storing the Northern 144s on the K&WVR will have provided them with a bit of unexpected income. From what I have gathered off Facebook work on the bridge is starting again. Of course we will be able to see a 144 permanently at Keighley now aswell. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
25901 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 (edited) From what is going around at the moment on a few forums, Northern Rail are returning some 142s back into service for the Manchester area with the first ones back at Newton Heath on Monday (22/06/20) Edited June 23, 2020 by 25901 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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