RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted August 1, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 1, 2019 August 1st Availability list now shows the Sealink Mk1's as Out of Stock. Huh?!? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnDMJ Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 4 hours ago, John M Upton said: August 1st Availability list now shows the Sealink Mk1's as Out of Stock. Huh?!? Tip - don't wait until they have been released, pre-order as soon as they are announced! Looks like pre-orders have exceeded planned manufacturing quantities! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott B Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 1 hour ago, JohnDMJ said: 4 hours ago, John M Upton said: Tip - don't wait until they have been released, pre-order as soon as they are announced! Looks like pre-orders have exceeded planned manufacturing quantities! Whilst I agree with your comment and generally do exactly as you say myself, it does not neccessarily mean that if you have not pre-ordered you wont be able to buy them from a supplier when they are released. Some/most suppliers will not just buy stock to satisfy pre orders, however I suspect some will. What it does mean is when they are available on the web/in shops, dont hang around as when they are gone they won't be able to order any more from the manufacturer. Regards Scott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahame Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 6 hours ago, John M Upton said: August 1st Availability list now shows the Sealink Mk1's as Out of Stock. Huh?!? Is that just the Farish position in that they do not have any left (or unordered/unallocated) in their warehouse? And, as such, it probably means that retailers/shops won't necessarily have no stock to sell. G Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott B Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 5 minutes ago, grahame said: Is that just the Farish position in that they do not have any left (or unordered/unallocated) in their warehouse? And, as such, it probably means that retailers/shops won't necessarily have no stock to sell. G I would agree Grahame. The same status shows for some of the new TEA's as well I note. Scott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnDMJ Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 4 hours ago, Scott B said: Whilst I agree with your comment and generally do exactly as you say myself, it does not neccessarily mean that if you have not pre-ordered you wont be able to buy them from a supplier when they are released. Some/most suppliers will not just buy stock to satisfy pre orders, however I suspect some will. What it does mean is when they are available on the web/in shops, dont hang around as when they are gone they won't be able to order any more from the manufacturer. Regards Scott To a large extent, it depends on the retailer. Do they have the space and sufficient spare cash to speculate in this way? Not many do! These days, production batches are sufficiently large to cover basic costs plus a bit. This may not be sufficient to life-expire the tooling so further variants (different running numbers, for example) may be possible. Some main-stream manufacturers also take the view that if there is a small 'demand' for a newly announced possible product, it may not justify the costs of tooling to make it. Consider: "We'd like to produce a model of this coach so we'll generate pictures (often of the full scale version) and publish them with delivery way off into the future and wait. We need to be able to sell a minimum of, say, 2000 to generate any profit. As time progresses, only, say, 500 pre-orders arrive so the manufacturer takes the decision not to even bother making the tooling. Model discontinued (cancelled)!" In these days of batch production (often in shared facilities) and JIT, if there's little or no demand, they won't bother! I'm not talking small companies here (Oxford, Hornby, Dapol, Bachmann, for example), I'm talking major internationals like Kato, Marklin (currently the world's largest model railway manufacturer, I believe), Roco, Fleischmann, Trix, etc.! In short, if you like a proposed new release, register your interest with a suitable supplier at the earliest opportunity and DON'T wait until it arrives on the shelf; it might never get there (never made or pre-sold out)! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted August 2, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 2, 2019 There is a review of the Sealink Mk1's in the new Hornby Mag so I am hopeful its a case of they are on the boat but not ETA for docking yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted August 12, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 12, 2019 I don't think they have made it to retailers yet but I have now ordered the two Sealink Mk1's. Will be interesting to see how well these sell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 On 12/08/2019 at 15:25, John M Upton said: I don't think they have made it to retailers yet but I have now ordered the two Sealink Mk1's. Will be interesting to see how well these sell. It looks they've arrived as Rails now have them in stock. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted August 24, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 24, 2019 It has to be said that now they have finally arrived, the Sealink Mk1's look pretty good: 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fezza Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 What surprises me is the lack of news on the 37s and 47s that have been advertised on retailers' websites for more than 12 months now. Surely these are 'bread and butter' locos that are easy money for any manufacturer who has the tooling? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted August 26, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 26, 2019 The same could be said for the Sealink Mk1's which were an existing tooling with a livery already done in OO yet they were almost two years late by the time they finally turned up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Crepello Posted August 28, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 28, 2019 I recall British Rail being described as 'moribund' by critics; this description could apply to Bachmann over the recent past. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fezza Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Any sign of the 20s due in September or the 170s due in October? It will soon be November... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 18 hours ago, fezza said: Any sign of the 20s due in September or the 170s due in October? It will soon be November... Not what you want to hear, but the 170s are now due Feb 2020. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977joey Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 (edited) Mark 2F's now pushed back to January/February 2020 now I see too... Edited October 21, 2019 by 1977joey 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fezza Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Oh well, I guess my pre-Christmas cash will go to Dapol then.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 On 21/10/2019 at 22:44, 1977joey said: Mark 2F's now pushed back to January/February 2020 now I see too... WTF! Well at least they are producing the important coaches first i.e the RFB/DBSO/BSO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmumford Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 On 21/10/2019 at 19:37, montyburns56 said: Not what you want to hear, but the 170s are now due Feb 2020. Are they going to be DCC ready? May be everything being released nowadays is? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fezza Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 Bachmann weren't very hopeful about modern image release dates at Spalding show. Retooled 31s and 47s late next year 2020. Rail freight 47 may be slightly earlier but not before summer it seems. I can't help thinking N gauge is now a low priority for Bachmann. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy L S Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 19 hours ago, fezza said: I can't help thinking N gauge is now a low priority for Bachmann. With such a lot of new announcements from existing tooling at the start of the year, the speed of them (not) arriving certainly makes it begin to feel that way. Then there is new tool 8F which has been seen in EP form for a long time but apparently it will not be with us until Q2 next year. It would be nice to be proved wrong but I'm not holding my breath... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Crepello Posted November 4, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 4, 2019 I'm wondering if there'll be anything new announced in January. Is it too early to start the frothing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpendle Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 7 minutes ago, Crepello said: I'm wondering if there'll be anything new announced in January. Is it too early to start the frothing? What would be the point? As things stand, by the time we get the CL150 and CL319 in the latest Northern livery they'll all have been withdrawn on the real railway. John P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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