roythebus Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 There's a discussion going on in the FB Lost Boys group about Freightliner guards "containers" which were trialled on the rear of Freightliner trains. I remember BR Mk1 suburban brake coaches painted BR grey an labelled as Freightliner Brake Van in about 1967 or 68. I saw one on a train at Camden Road just after the introduction of Freightliner trains. Does anyone have any details or photos of them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 (edited) Six production Guards containers were built and two of them remain, one grounded on the NYMR at Pickering and the other at the NRM at York! Mark Saunders Edited March 11, 2019 by Mark Saunders Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted March 11, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 11, 2019 Old thread here: https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/8512-freightliner-ex-passenger-stock-brakevans-in-the-1960s/ with list of vehicles one of the posts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigd Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Here is a shot containing the NRMs one. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted March 11, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 11, 2019 How many were actually painted? I wonder if the BSs had propane heating that was intended for the container caboose . also I'd they have be the leading vehicle or was the handbrake considered good enough for it to be the rearmost vehicle ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold griffgriff Posted March 11, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 11, 2019 11 minutes ago, russ p said: How many were actually painted? I wonder if the BSs had propane heating that was intended for the container caboose . also I'd they have be the leading vehicle or was the handbrake considered good enough for it to be the rearmost vehicle ? Handbrake? I think it was just a valve. Griff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted March 11, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 11, 2019 No , a BS most definitely has a handbrake as do all passenger brake coaches Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roythebus Posted March 11, 2019 Author Share Posted March 11, 2019 5 hours ago, keefer said: Old thread here: https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/8512-freightliner-ex-passenger-stock-brakevans-in-the-1960s/ with list of vehicles one of the posts Thanks, I knew there was an old thread somewhere on here. The BS was just for the guard to ride in before they were allowed to ride in the rear cabs of locomotives. Quite what heating the guard had in the BS is the next question! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted March 12, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 12, 2019 AFAIK the heating in the BS was propane, and by all accounts not very effective; the coaches were originally designed to be steam heated. The guard's compartment had a 'setter' to vent air from the system and apply the brakes if needed, and to perform the brake continuity tests, and a manually operated wheel handbrake to secure the train when it was stabled and the air brakes isolated. The handbrake is not used to control the train in the same way as a goods 'toad' brake van's on a part fitted freight, as the train is fully air braked including the BS, and braking is done by the driver on the loco. The BS could presumably be anywhere in the consist, as the train is fully fitted and vehicles can be marshalled behind it. I recall only once seeing one in use, on the day that Pengam (Cardiff) Freightliner terminal opened to traffic, but they were in use for a short time after that. I don't recall ever seeing one of the fibreglass 'container' guard's vans in use. All passenger and NPCCS brake vehicles have a handbrake operable from inside the vehicle and air or vacuum setters. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 A rare beast captured out in the wild! Moore 1967 by George Woods 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 Follingsby 1967 by Trevor Casey 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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