18B Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 hi, Would anyone happen to know what, 1C47 was, D1052 worked into/out of? Cardiff station with it on March 27th 1973..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted March 15, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 15, 2019 1 denotes an express passenger train, and C, on the WR, a train terminating in the Cardiff Division, which was all of South Wales in the 70s. And 47, an odd reporting number (meaning not even numbered, as opposed to 'a bit wierd') would be the 23rd such train of the day; odd numbers were used for down trains and even for up. A denoted a London area termination and B Bristol (the entire West of England). V was an interregional train terminating on the Western, with E meaning Eastern, M meaning Midland, O meaning Southern, and S meaning Scottish (N had been used for the former North Eastern Region). O was used in South Wales for MGR workings as well. So, without looking at the WTT which is what would definitively answer the question, most likely a Paddington-Swansea service. But other possibles are Paddington-Milford Haven or Fishguard. Stock would probably be air braked mk2s, but not air conditioned electrically heated; the Westerns did not have the necessary equipment for this and 47s were used. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold stovepipe Posted March 15, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 15, 2019 Being a Tuesday, it was 12:00 Paddington - Swansea via Bristol Parkway, formed of 10 coaches of air-braked stock, formed up as: BG 4TSO RB FO 2FK BSO 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted March 16, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 16, 2019 (edited) The BG and RB would have been mk1 vehicles on B4 bogies, the rest mk2. IIRC the airconditioned stock was not introduced until 1974; of course, 47s were as likely to be hauling South Wales expresses as Westerns at this time. Edited March 16, 2019 by The Johnster 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold stovepipe Posted March 16, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 16, 2019 And the FO, there were no MK2 open firsts until the a/c versions came along. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted March 16, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 16, 2019 The first Mk2 FOs were Mk2c 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertcwp Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 The RB could well have been on Commonwealth bogies rather than B4/5. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold stovepipe Posted March 16, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 16, 2019 11 hours ago, keefer said: The first Mk2 FOs were Mk2c Ah yes very true, but I believe all 18 were on the London Midland region in 1973. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted March 17, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 17, 2019 Sorry, right enough! Forgot the year was mentioned by the OP, as you say they were on WCML trains at that time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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