18B Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 morning, just out of sheer interest and not one I imagine anyone will have a definite answer for, but why was Aberbeeg Shed not called Glandwr? looking at the shed's location https://www.old-maps.co.uk/#/Map/320990/201106/12/100954 it is opposite the village of Glandwr and Aberbeeg is further along the line? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
18B Posted March 28, 2019 Author Share Posted March 28, 2019 think I've just answered my own question looking at the earlier maps and when the 1858 shed opened, it looks like the railway built a row of houses "Aberbeeg" and that was the name of the shed. Glandwr at the was only a very small settlement, but by the time the new four track shed was opened in 1919 much further to the south, Glandwr had grown considerably, but the new shed retained the name Aberbeeg.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
18B Posted March 28, 2019 Author Share Posted March 28, 2019 has anyone got any picture of Aberbeeg stabling point? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted March 28, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 28, 2019 It was no doubt called Aberbeeg because that was the railway location, and probably because the shed it replaced was also called Aberbeeg. The railway went, by its named locations, from Llanhilleth to Aberbeeg so Glandwr simply didn't exist as a railway location and the connection to the shed yard was in any case controlled by one of the Aberbeeg signal boxes. I presume Aberbeeg closed as a traincrew depot in either 1964 (when the shed closed) or no later than 1968 with the introduction of Block Plan. I can't recall that we had any Drivers based there when it was part of my patch in 1974 and there were definitely no locos stabled there by then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Welchester Posted March 28, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 28, 2019 Aberbeeg was the name of the ancient parish (5th cent). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 2 hours ago, 18B said: has anyone got any picture of Aberbeeg stabling point? There are lots of photos of the area here, http://llanhilleth.gwentheritage.org.uk/content/category/categories/transport but none which include stabled locos. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivercider Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 On Flickr John Woolley has a picture from Sunday August 24th 1975, there are three class 37s and a class 08 stabled for the weekend. (I searched for 'Aberbeeg 1975') cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted March 28, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 28, 2019 7 hours ago, Rivercider said: On Flickr John Woolley has a picture from Sunday August 24th 1975, there are three class 37s and a class 08 stabled for the weekend. (I searched for 'Aberbeeg 1975') cheers That''s interesting - I never saw any stabled up there when I went up there (daytimes and evenings) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianusa Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Probably because no one could pronounce Glandwr! Brian. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted March 29, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 29, 2019 Come on, Glandwr isn't hard; glan doer is close enough. Glan is 'by the side of' and dwr is 'water'. Aberbeeg means 'the mouth of the Beeg' (spelled Big on the Ordnance Survey), a small stream whose confluence with the Ebbw (say eboo) river is near here, only yards upstream from the confluence with the Ebbw Fach (Little Ebbw) that comes down from Brynmawr (Big Hill) through Abertillery (mouth of Tyleri stream, it's confluence with the Ebbw Fach). You want hard, try Llanfairpwllgwyngyllchwyntrobwllgogerechllantisiliogogogoch. There's a joke about English tourists visiting this Anglesey village, and stopping for a snack. They ask the local waitress if she could say the name of the place they were in for them, as it was beyond them, so she obliged. 'This place you are in', she said helpfully, enunciating it slowly for their benefit, 'is called 'Burger King'... 1 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
br2975 Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 (edited) On 28/03/2019 at 11:34, The Stationmaster said: I presume Aberbeeg closed as a traincrew depot in either 1964 (when the shed closed) or no later than 1968 with the introduction of Block Plan. I can't recall that we had any Drivers based there when it was part of my patch in 1974 and there were definitely no locos stabled there by then. Mike, . Stored within my South Wales notes, records and 'Blockplan' research, I have some photos, info and sightings from as late as 1973, and later. . Regards . Brian R Edited March 30, 2019 by br2975 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCB Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 On 28/03/2019 at 22:03, brianusa said: Probably because no one could pronounce Glandwr! Brian. Of course they could pernounce Glandwr. Round yer in Glostershire us often talks about Glandwr Fever and the loike. 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
br2975 Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 On 28/03/2019 at 07:09, 18B said: but why was Aberbeeg Shed not called Glandwr? Quite possibly for the same reason they chose to call their Llantrisant station, Llantrisant, despite it being in Pontyclun, almost two miles from Llantrisant, and seperated from it by another village, Talbot Green. . The GWR renamed the former Taff Vale Railway "Cardiff Docks" station to "Bute Road" but there is no Bute Road in Cardiff and never has been, albeit the station was located on Bute STREET. . The GWR was renowned for confusing folk by irrationally naming stations and locations to suit themselves, not their passengers or customers. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
br2975 Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 On 28/03/2019 at 11:34, The Stationmaster said: I presume Aberbeeg closed as a traincrew depot in either 1964 (when the shed closed) or no later than 1968 with the introduction of Block Plan. I can't recall that we had any Drivers based there when it was part of my patch in 1974 and there were definitely no locos stabled there by then. Mike, . I have the closure date for Aberbeeg stabling point, including the details of last three locos to stable there. It was later than you (and I) thought. Will PM you . Brian R Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted April 2, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 2, 2019 16 hours ago, br2975 said: Mike, . I have the closure date for Aberbeeg stabling point, including the details of last three locos to stable there. It was later than you (and I) thought. Will PM you . Brian R Thanks Brian. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted April 2, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 2, 2019 19 hours ago, br2975 said: Quite possibly for the same reason they chose to call their Llantrisant station, Llantrisant, despite it being in Pontyclun, almost two miles from Llantrisant, and seperated from it by another village, Talbot Green. . The GWR renamed the former Taff Vale Railway "Cardiff Docks" station to "Bute Road" but there is no Bute Road in Cardiff and never has been, albeit the station was located on Bute STREET. . The GWR was renowned for confusing folk by irrationally naming stations and locations to suit themselves, not their passengers or customers. Agree. And a tradition which I managed to continue in the early using the name 'Portbury Terminal Junction' for a junction which is on the opposite side of the Avon from Portbury but leading to a terminal which is served by Portbury dock. Incidentally for those who might think the GWR was picking on Wales it was equally adept at giving some of its English station names very different spelling from the name of the place that station served or even the village in which the station was situated. And it was also rather good at naming locations, such as signalboxes, after places that were nowhere near them (e.g the original and subsequent Lockinge Signal Boxes). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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