Dunnington, Derwent Valley Light Railway.

[Signaller69]

On 16/03/2021 at 18:41, montyburns56 said:

Fowler 0-4-0DM shunter 'Churchill' at Dunnington 1979

 

 

Thanks Monty, marvellous photo! Any idea what the light coloured plate on the cabside was? A Yorkshire Grain Driers ownership plate perhaps? 

 

Martyn.

Edited March 18, 2021 by Signaller69
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[montyburns56]

1 hour ago, Signaller69 said:

Thanks Monty, marvellous photo! Any idea what the light coloured plate on the cabside was? A Yorkshire Grain Driers ownership plate perhaps? 

 

Martyn.

 

Not a clue as it's a picture I found on Flickr. There are some more small pictures of it here.

 

http://www.geoffspages.co.uk/specials/dvlr.htm

[iands]

Another photo of "Churchill" at Murton in a slightly more used/weathered condition, though not operational at the time. Sorry can't help with the "plates" info, they seem to have been removed.

[Signaller69]

59 minutes ago, montyburns56 said:

 

Not a clue as it's a picture I found on Flickr. There are some more small pictures of it here.

 

http://www.geoffspages.co.uk/specials/dvlr.htm

Thanks, yes I am familiar with the DVR photos on Geoffs Pages, they have been very useful in researching the Steam Specials too.

 

[Signaller69]

52 minutes ago, iands said:

Another photo of "Churchill" at Murton in a slightly more used/weathered condition, though not operational at the time. Sorry can't help with the "plates" info, they seem to have been removed.

Thanks, I have a couple of snaps of Churchill at Murton when it was among other small locos at the time I visited. I guess the plates were removed for safekeeping. Hopefully it will be operational in the not too distant future. 

 

Thanks,

Martyn.

[Signaller69]

I have been working on some rolling stock so I set the layout up for the first time in about a year so a running session could take place. A Bachmann Mk.1 Suburban coach has been repainted BR Blue to represent that used on some of the 1977 Steam services, running with a Mk.1 BCK.

My reworked model of "Joem" (relined Mainline body on a Bachmann chassis) has had the wheels sprayed black and the connecting rods picked out in red as running at the time and the chassis given a service, wheels cleaned etc. Vacuum pipes have been added and a crew is next on the list to distract the eye from the motor block in the cab.

 

 

 

 

 

Photos show the train arriving at Dunnington, running around and preparing to leave back to Layerthorpe. Joem didn't carry a smokebox numberplate at this time but I have left it in situ for now due to risk of damage to the door hinges.

 

Martyn.

[Signaller69]

On 25th September 1981, the DVR Directors hired a BR Class 100 DMU for a final management run along the line from Layerthorpe to Dunnington (it was not the final train however). Having built such a unit from Worseley Works etched sides & ends, using a Hornby DMU as a base, this can now be replicated.

 

 

 

 

The BMC van used by the PW gang can perhaps now be fixed in place, it usually resides near the platform gate but is a little hidden from most angles.

 

Possibly not the best location for it either!

[Signaller69]

A few projects on the go, including producing resin lower hopper parts to detail the Bachmann / Liliput BRT Grain Hoppers:

 

Also in resin, some pallets of bagged grain, ready for loading into BR vans, which have been painted this evening (the brick carrying tramway wagons are for another project):

 

And an EFE AEC lorry given a plasticard flatbed for another load of bagged grain (a "Days Gone" resin casting):

Complete with Drivers Mate on top attending to the tarpaulin.

 

All are still works in progress.

[Signaller69]

I have now finished detailing the Liliput/Bachmann BRT Grain Hoppers and also printed new "Jamie Stuart" advertising hoardings for one of the Lima wagons.

 

 

 

The resin bagged Grain pallet loads have been fixed in place too.

 

I need to find a forklift truck to go with them. I am also experimenting with where the lorry load of bagged grain looks best suited.

 

Martyn.

[Signaller69]

The flatbed lorry has had door mirrors added. I quite like it in this location, with the tarpaulin being fitted ready for departure. Shunting clearance is quite tight but not critical.

 

 

I have sourced a secondhand but very nice Wiking fork lift truck from my local model shop, it's a bit modern for the 1970s but I will look at some photos to see if it can be backdated in some way or other.

[Ramblin Rich]

This is looking good Martyn. Very atmospheric.

Is there any prospect of the resin sack pallets being available to others? They look just right for fertilizer traffic.

[Ben B]

Looking really good- as regards the forklift, when did roll cages became normal/legal? That might help backdate it, someone on RMWeb is bound to know

[Signaller69]

2 hours ago, Ramblin Rich said:

This is looking good Martyn. Very atmospheric.

Is there any prospect of the resin sack pallets being available to others? They look just right for fertilizer traffic.

 

Thanks Rich, most kind of you.

 

The sack pallets are from a single mould so it seemed to take forever to make those on the layout! 

 

However I am thinking of making a few more from scratch (one being a taller stack possibly) so I should be able to make these available at cost price as I can cast several at once. I will post on here when I have something to show.

 

Cheers,

Martyn.

[Signaller69]

4 minutes ago, Ben B said:

Looking really good- as regards the forklift, when did roll cages became normal/legal? That might help backdate it, someone on RMWeb is bound to know

Funny enough someone pointed out on my "Crinan" thread that they became a legal requirement around 1970 so I altered the one on the layout to be compliant.

[doilum]

Paint it red?

[Signaller69]

1 hour ago, doilum said:

Paint it red?

Certainly a possibility!

[doilum]

4 hours ago, Signaller69 said:

Certainly a possibility!

And then sign write Lansing on the rump in white! 

My recollection from vacation jobs in the mid 70s was that many were running on Propane from a standard orange bottle on the back.

[Signaller69]

59 minutes ago, doilum said:

And then sign write Lansing on the rump in white! 

My recollection from vacation jobs in the mid 70s was that many were running on Propane from a standard orange bottle on the back.

Crikey, Lansing, yes I recall the name! Thanks, I did google "old forklift truck" for images, and one or two did pop up with LPG/propane tanks as you describe, but even they seemed to be 1980s types and very few images were of older types (most being from re-seller sites of 1990/2000s on models) but it did offer food for thought; I believe propane can be a by-product of grain storage (grain silos in the USA often seem to have propane tanks to collect this, if I read it right), so it is quite possible those at Yorkshire Grain Driers may have been powered thus?

Edited June 19, 2021 by Signaller69

[Signaller69]

Thought I'd posted these before, but it was obviously elsewhere.  

Joem now has a loco crew, altered from Dapol Trackworkers figures.

 

[doilum]

12 hours ago, Signaller69 said:

Crikey, Lansing, yes I recall the name! Thanks, I did google "old forklift truck" for images, and one or two did pop up with LPG/propane tanks as you describe, but even they seemed to be 1980s types and very few images were of older types (most being from re-seller sites of 1990/2000s on models) but it did offer food for thought; I believe propane can be a by-product of grain storage (grain silos in the USA often seem to have propane tanks to collect this, if I read it right), so it is quite possible those at Yorkshire Grain Driers may have been powered thus?

The fork lifts at the first place I worked were Lansing Bagnall. Perhaps a link to the locomotive manufacturer? I think gas was a preferred fuel where the trucks worked indoors. It also made refuelling a safe and clean operation and negated the need to have diesel or petrol tanks on site. I think the LB ones were fairly small and electrically powered , but worked entirely indoors on a perfectly level floor. The ones I encountered the following year were bigger beasts, driven by maniacs and to be avoided at all costs! 

Sorry for the random image of Astley. I was searching to see if I could find an image of a 7mm Lansing lookalike that I built for the club layout. I hadn't photographed it and couldn't find a way to relate the accidental image selected.

 

Edited June 20, 2021 by doilum
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[Moxy]

31 minutes ago, doilum said:

The fork lifts at the first place I worked were Lansing Bagnall. Perhaps a link to the locomotive manufacturer?

 

 

Doesn't seem to be related.  The Bagnall of Lansing Bagnall is Frederick Edward Bagnall who was from Coventry https://www.gracesguide.co.uk/Lansing_Equipment_Co 1882 - 1965.

 

W G Bagnall of the locomotive builders lived 1852 - 1907.  He was from Tamworth.  https://www.gracesguide.co.uk/William_Gordon_Bagnall

 

It is possible they may share a distant relative, but there doesn't seem to be any commercial connections between the two companies.

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[Neil]

From memory the fork lift trucks at York Carriageworks in the late seventies were yellow and filth, Horizontal propane tank across the rear and without roll cage/bars.

 

One of the drivers was a short bloke, as round as he was tall. Stood behind him in the queue at the works canteen I remember him saying, "extra spam fritter with me chips love, wife's got me on a diet so I can't have a pudding".

[montyburns56]

6 hours ago, Neil said:

From memory the fork lift trucks at York Carriageworks in the late seventies were yellow and filth, Horizontal propane tank across the rear and without roll cage/bars.

 

One of the drivers was a short bloke, as round as he was tall. Stood behind him in the queue at the works canteen I remember him saying, "extra spam fritter with me chips love, wife's got me on a diet so I can't have a pudding".

 

Well you need a driver with a low centre of gravity if you don't have a roll cage...

[Signaller69]

Had something approaching a proper running session this evening after much cleaning of track and loco wheels. Some leisurely shunting followed!

 

No.2 at rest with full sugarbeet wagons.

 

No.1 arrives with grain empties as No.2 shunts full wagons ready to depart.

 

 

Later, No.2 is seen collecting sundries traffic from the station platform, carried in the ex-LNER Pigeon Van. 

 

 

The YGD Fowler is away for attention so a temporary stand-in is on hire! Well, just because!

 

Thanks for looking.

Martyn.

[montyburns56]

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