jdb82 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 Just starting to think ahead to my next project, which will be a Manning Wardle Old i Class, for which I am having a go at producing a set of etches for. As there is a gap between the boiler and the frames, I want to include the inside motion for it to prevent it looking 'empty'. I do not currently have any engineering drawings (only scale drawings) - the question is, what type of inside motion did they have? I'm not massively knowledgable (yet!) about the inside workings of locos, so apologies if this is a daft question! John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
decauville1126 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 2 hours ago, jdb82 said: Just starting to think ahead to my next project, which will be a Manning Wardle Old i Class, for which I am having a go at producing a set of etches for. As there is a gap between the boiler and the frames, I want to include the inside motion for it to prevent it looking 'empty'. I do not currently have any engineering drawings (only scale drawings) - the question is, what type of inside motion did they have? I'm not massively knowledgable (yet!) about the inside workings of locos, so apologies if this is a daft question! John From the Slater's instructions for their 7mm kit: 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdb82 Posted April 14, 2019 Author Share Posted April 14, 2019 7 hours ago, decauville1126 said: From the Slater's instructions for their 7mm kit: Thanks! This drawing will be really useful :-) Anyone know the name of this type of motion? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
decauville1126 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 3 hours ago, jdb82 said: Thanks! This drawing will be really useful :-) Anyone know the name of this type of motion? Inside Stephenson. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdb82 Posted April 14, 2019 Author Share Posted April 14, 2019 Many thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ian Smeeton Posted April 15, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 15, 2019 I volunteer at the Rutland Railway Museum 'Rocks by Rail' There is a Barclay, 'Sir Thomas Royden' with inside Stephenson link motion. I have only taken the one photo of it so far, but I will be in, up, over, and under it at the weekend if you would like some more This was taken from the side of the loco, and sows what can be seen under the boiler. Regards Ian 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdb82 Posted April 15, 2019 Author Share Posted April 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Ian Smeeton said: I volunteer at the Rutland Railway Museum 'Rocks by Rail' There is a Barclay, 'Sir Thomas Royden' with inside Stephenson link motion. I have only taken the one photo of it so far, but I will be in, up, over, and under it at the weekend if you would like some more This was taken from the side of the loco, and sows what can be seen under the boiler. Regards Ian Hi Ian, Yes please, that would be more than helpful! Thanks, John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdb82 Posted April 21, 2019 Author Share Posted April 21, 2019 I've been doing a bit of reading and research around the inside stephenson's valve gear, and understand how it works. Constructing one is another matter though! Does anyone know of a kit available for it? Possible not, as I guess they're all different sizes based on whichever loco they are used in. Laurie Griffin Miniatures do a working one I think, but I've no idea if it comes with assembly and fitting instructions or if it's simply a bag of well-cast parts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ian Smeeton Posted May 5, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 5, 2019 I haven't forgotten the photos. Unfortunately, I did forget my camera on the day that I was Loco Cleaner, and she was already off the pit by the time I got there on the Monday, so there was no opportunity. I will take some as soon as I can, and upload the here for you, though. Regards Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdb82 Posted May 5, 2019 Author Share Posted May 5, 2019 12 hours ago, Ian Smeeton said: I haven't forgotten the photos. Unfortunately, I did forget my camera on the day that I was Loco Cleaner, and she was already off the pit by the time I got there on the Monday, so there was no opportunity. I will take some as soon as I can, and upload the here for you, though. Regards Ian No problem Ian - thanks for the thought! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ian Smeeton Posted May 26, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 26, 2019 (edited) At last, a combination of factors finally came together. Herewith, inside motion on a Barclay 'Sir Thomas Royden' at Rocks By Rail (the Rutland Railway museum), today. From the front end, looking towards the firebox And another Two from the LHS When you are looking forwards. Inside view of the springs Valve Spindle LHS See next Post. Edited May 26, 2019 by Ian Smeeton 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ian Smeeton Posted May 26, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 26, 2019 Lets have a few more.... The rest will have to wait 'til tomorrow as I have exceeded my 10MB limit. I knew that I should have resized them first.. Regards Ian 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdb82 Posted May 27, 2019 Author Share Posted May 27, 2019 Ian, you are a gem! Many many thanks. look forwards to the others tomorrow! As an enthusiast, but one with very little knowledge of the 'insides', these are the places I don't normally get to see.... Thanks again, John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ian Smeeton Posted May 27, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 27, 2019 I think that I can squeeze the rest in without exceeding my limits! This is LHS looking to the front with my back against a REALLY warm firebox. Rear Axle, firebox and eccentrics. (LHS) Rear axle and eccentrics RHS Looking towards the rear, under the rear axle and firebox If you need any others, please just shout. With luck, the other Barclay on the roster should be in steam soon, so I can do a comparison set. Regards Ian 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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