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Selling your surplus items.

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Once upon a time on the forum, we used to have a very simple but effective way of getting rid of our surplus items.

Times change of course nd that facility went by the wayside when RMweb changed hands.

Sadly, there are next to no substitute methods available today beyond a certain auction site that I utterly begrudge having to use these days.

Similarly, there are some sales groups on a well-known social media platform but these are all pretty useless and full of time wasters and panhandlers.

What’s a bloke to do..?

 

Davy

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Ebay has from a sellers point of view dropped off somewhat recently.  I have found that certain items, particularly OO scale steam locos like Bachmann Ivatt tanks and Hornby M7's have suddenly started selling for comparatively little money whereas a pile of old detailing bits that were thirty odd years old (at least!) were snapped up in the blink of an eye.

 

I am still plodding away with off loading surplus stock and bits as I find them in my garage on Ebay but am becoming more and more disenfranchised by the seemingly unfathomable to work out sale fees.

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EBay prices are a simple reflection of demand for items, if prices are falling it is not EBay that has fallen off but demand. Prices for hobby items like models are notoriously prone to a boom and bust mentality, people get carried away by clever marketing about limited edition, instant collectability, buy it or miss the bus (I believe this has evolved into "buyers remorse") which tends to inflate prices (sometimes to absurd levels) until people move onto the next thing and prices collapse. Personally I still think that despite all of its many faults that EBay is still a good outlet for private sellers.

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I've successfully flogged a variety of stuff on ebay....as was described above, it has it's selling 'trends' and randomly varying prices..it's ok for occasional use, but would find it a bit of a nightmare if doing it on a very regular basis.

It is a shame there doesn't appear to be an accessible for all, simple ' items for sale'  section on here.

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10 minutes ago, Porkscratching said:

It is a shame there doesn't appear to be an accessible for all, simple ' items for sale'  section on here.

 

There is, as per my previous post.

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This is one of the reasons why I've suggested that the new classifieds ought to be open to everyone, with a per-item (or per-listing) fee for regular members and free listings for premium members. The reality is that premium membership isn't going to be for everybody, so there are still going to be people who aren't premium members who want to sell things. And a classifieds that's open to everyone is also a potential draw to bring in new members.

 

One of the problems with eBay is that it's moved on a lot from its original purpose of facilitating second-hand sales, and is now primarily a marketplace for small retailers that don't have the facilities to operate their own website (and as a secondary outlet for large retailers that do). So "classic" used item listings can get a bit lost in the noise. And, of course, not everybody is keen on the auction format.

 

There are other online listings sites, of course, but they tend not to have the necessary critical mass. Gumtree is worth a look as a buyer, but I wouldn't use it to sell anything model railway related - prices there are typically below eBay, not least because most of the people selling stuff there have no idea what it's worth (typical extract from a current listing: "I've cleared a relative's house & have quite a few of these Trains to sell. I don't really know anything about them other than what I've read a little on Google"). 

 

From a technical perspective, it would be a relatively simple web development project to set up a listings site, especially if you don't charge a listings fee. Even if you do charge a fee, integrating Paypal isn't a particularly onerous task. I have toyed with the idea myself in the past, back when the original RMweb classifieds were discontinued. But, of course, forum rules mean I couldn't advertise it here, and without enough critical mass to be self-sustaining it wouldn't justify the effort.

 

So I think the answer to the original question, at least for people who have no other reason to be premium members (and you would need to be selling a lot of stuff for the free classifieds alone to justify the outlay) is, unfortunately, still eBay.

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14 minutes ago, MarkSG said:

This is one of the reasons why I've suggested that the new classifieds ought to be open to everyone, with a per-item (or per-listing) fee for regular members and free listings for premium members

 

Which would require RMweb to be a transaction platform to accept payments but due to it's complexities cannot be integrated with company payment systems. It would also be an additional workload for me to administrate.

 

Patterns are emerging that it is an effective selling platform and if you sell over £50 of items a month you would have saved the eBay fees plus get the other benefits.

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I do have quite a pile of varied and in some cases niche finescale stuff to get rid of so this is probably worth a punt.

Thanks for the heads up, Andy.

I’ve not been on the site much in recent times so I missed this development.

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It should be noted that the RMWeb gold "fee" at £5 a month equates to the ebay & paypal fee for selling an item worth £35 + £2 p&P once a month. Even if you were only to use it for selling things, the cost is very competitive. 

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Usually when using an auction sellers get wholesale prices, eBay came along and made both buying and selling at auction far easier and for both a buyer and seller an auction site with an enormous selection of items for the buyer and equally an enormous amount of buyers for the sellers.  As a buyer its a site where you can buy a large range of items ranging from a complete train set to the smallest part, for the seller buyers from the collector to a novice. In short parts can be bought or sold that in the past would have been hard to resell or find second hand.

 

I am changing gauge and would find it difficult to sell let alone get reasonable prices for my unwanted items, on the other hand local shops and stalls at local shows keep very little in the way of 7 mm scale items, however items can still be bought cheaply if you bide your time (I have recently bought an etched 4 wheel coach kit with wheels for £30 (new about £100)

 

Many moan about eBay's fees, forgetting auction sites charge 20% to both buyers and sellers, where as eBay charges a flat 10% to sellers if using PayPal another 3%, these are still far cheaper than traditional auction houses. However this can be minimised as eBay regularly has offer weekends, last weekend I sold one item for £40 and another for £80 and was charged a selling fee of £1 each (2.5% & 1.25%) even adding PayPal's 3% money handling fee exceptional value.

 

Now I am not knocking other ways of selling items, but quite often many seem to take offence just because something is successful, I just look at my own experience, as a seller did I get good prices for my items and pay reasonable charges. As a buyer was I able to get an item ? and at a keen price?. This weekend yes to all 4 

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Another benefit for Gold users is that they can use the Classifieds to link to their eBay sales thus promoting them to a different audience. 

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3 hours ago, JohnR said:

It should be noted that the RMWeb gold "fee" at £5 a month equates to the ebay & paypal fee for selling an item worth £35 + £2 p&P once a month. Even if you were only to use it for selling things, the cost is very competitive. 

Exactly so,  RMweb Gold costs less than £1 per week on most of the payment methods (plus it gives you a free ticket to one of three shows a year - which you don't get selling on EBay) so it's good value if you are doing a lot of selling.

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Although I've indulged with some bookcase weights it's worth pointing out that 30% of what has been listed in the Classifieds to date has sold.

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1 hour ago, The Stationmaster said:

Exactly so,  RMweb Gold costs less than £1 per week on most of the payment methods (plus it gives you a free ticket to one of three shows a year - which you don't get selling on EBay) so it's good value if you are doing a lot of selling.

I have been decluttering model trains for the last two years, culminating in sales for c. £1,200 on eBay during the last 7 months. If the Gold membership had been available it would have saved me money, even allowing for those occasions when a couple of bidders both wanted the same item. All the stuff has gone now of course. Typical for me :-)

 

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Keep hold of them, mate, and I'll load the lot into the van when the band plays the Brickyard :P

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