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1 minute ago, Edwardian said:

 

Early SR, i.e. large "S R" lettering as opposed to small 1936 lettering, will also require the design changes I mentioned. Late SR would continue to use the version we've seen.

 

Luckily it's late SR that I need for my layout, the SECR one would be for display.

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1 hour ago, Edwardian said:

 

Early SR, i.e. large "S R" lettering as opposed to small 1936 lettering, will also require the design changes I mentioned. Late SR would continue to use the version we've seen.

Do we know exactly when the Hills Brake was changed to Freighter ? ..... I'd guess fairly early in Southern days so large 'SR' and Freighter would probably be OK.

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7 minutes ago, Wickham Green said:

Do we know exactly when the Hills Brake was changed to Freighter ? ..... I'd guess fairly early in Southern days so large 'SR' and Freighter would probably be OK.

 

I think we can be confident that if that was the case, Rails would have issued a version in that livery. 

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You both make fair points!

 

The examples of which we are aware show a change to RCH/Freighter brakes in the late '30s, though one in departmental use hadn't been repainted, so remained in very tatty pre-'36 livery. 

 

 

 

 

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48 minutes ago, Wickham Green said:

We can probably be confident that Rails are no wiser than the rest of us concerning exact dates and thought it prudent to avoid any potential low-flying brickbats.

 

Rails can be no wiser than their wisest advisors!

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27 minutes ago, Compound2632 said:

 

Rails can be no wiser than their wisest advisors!

 

Well, Guy and I considered all we could find on the subject; if someone can offer more information, I may be left none the wiser, but at least I'll be better informed!

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For those interested in the van, it is discussed in an interview (middle section) that Andy Y has just posted in the terrier topic ...

  

 

 

BTW, the reference in the interview to DLS is to the technology/process, rather than to the material. The 3D print manufacturer was present just off camera, having come to show support.  I know that the Rails vans have been shown by the print manufacturer at trade shows for other industry sectors they serve, e.g. automotive, where it provides a great example of what the technology can achieve, indeed, I'm told that the van has even exceeded the expectations of the manufacturers of the technology.  So there you go, our hobby at the cutting edge.   

 

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The roof impressed Andy and he said it looked just like a plastic injection moulding even though the tech was different. I'll be interested in how this new material takes weathering products.

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We are pleased to announce that the first of our exclusive BR (exSECR) box vans has arrived!

 

RL-1424-002 BR (ex-SE&CR) Diagram 1424 Box Van, No. S45382, Southern Railway brown with BR lettering has just been delivered. We are currently processing orders where customers have pre-ordered this specific van on its own. Orders from customers who have pre-ordered more than one version are currently being held until other models arrive. These are expected over the next few weeks.

 

We currently are not taking further orders for any version. Should stock become available we will advertise this on our website and newsletter.

 

Many thanks to everyone who did place an order, we hope you will be really happy with your purchase when you receive in due course.

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Well, Mr Postie just delivered....

 

I am impressed at the quality that has been achieved for a 3D printed item.

 

It's not quite up there with an injection moulded item, but it's pretty good. There is visible banding on the handbrake levers, but that's the only area where the process shows itself.  The only real criticism is that the buffers are not quite level and point upwards slightly, but that is being picky.

 

I'd certainly have no hestation in buying future products made this way.

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12 minutes ago, Trofimow said:

38g

 

I just weighed a whitemetal kit van of similar size - 54 g sans wheels and (plasticard) roof. The rule of thumb according to some is 25 g per axle but that's thinking of compensated or sprung vehicles for EM/P4 - in any case, I think this is respectably heavier than the run-of-the-mill RTR wagon.

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On 21/10/2019 at 12:15, Oliver Rails said:

We currently are not taking further orders for any version. Should stock become available we will advertise this on our website and newsletter.

That has got to be good news for them, all types sold out on pre-order.

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24 minutes ago, Compound2632 said:

 

I just weighed a whitemetal kit van of similar size - 54 g sans wheels and (plasticard) roof. The rule of thumb according to some is 25 g per axle but that's thinking of compensated or sprung vehicles for EM/P4 - in any case, I think this is respectably heavier than the run-of-the-mill RTR wagon.

A few unmodified examples immediately to hand:

 

Bachmann GWR MOGO van: 41g. Hornby SR Maunsell cattle wagon: 43g. Hornby LNER Toad B brake van: 37g.

 

John 

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Welcome to the future...

 

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just arrived today, imho these are right up there with injection moulded..

 

very nice printed finish, if you didnt know they were 3D printed you couldnt tell...

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Note the printed drawbar hook, even includes a hole in the hook

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I was not expecting a 3D printed chassis, i was thinking it was going to be a standard wagon chassis..

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note the delicacy of the printed door grab handle, and also the indentations in the wagon brake lever...

 

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also note the printed [edit] horse hooks [\edit] on the frame under the door..

 

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My buffers align nicely...

 

This is to be applauded and hope this shows light into the future of modelling, being able to make unique wagons commercially, printed, painted and rtr finished ! There is a world of potential... it may to prove to be that Hattons generic 4 wheelers are short lived !

 

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19 hours ago, adb968008 said:

Welcome to the future...

 

56376DEC-1066-4664-A273-1DBF88FA9773.jpeg.d67de81292a1ff41d899679a417ffef7.jpeg

 

just arrived today, imho these are right up there with injection moulded..

 

very nice printed finish, if you didnt know they were 3D printed you couldnt tell...

9D2FBB83-580F-4DE6-99C2-558FA4527C6C.jpeg.575722740cfda4a1ea309b2f456503f5.jpeg

 

 

CC59EDFE-E0B1-423E-86D7-677A699807FE.jpeg.49a72572159c1a1fdeed9271d00dd410.jpeg

Note the printed drawbar hook, even includes a hole in the hook

045F64D4-3F7D-4B2C-A1C0-57D1F03EB5DF.jpeg.5eb93fdffdd791f192cbd80125a7c76d.jpeg

I was not expecting a 3D printed chassis, i was thinking it was going to be a standard wagon chassis..

340636ED-B35B-4E32-A06B-8546FCA8589E.jpeg.800afd426c9994ca5be1604f9c3cc251.jpeg

 

note the delicacy of the printed door grab handle, and also the indentations in the wagon brake lever...

 

01661920-E8EB-451D-A153-15E8830E38D7.jpeg.2909095db127af8cb0dd8849824ee81f.jpeg

also note the printed [edit] horse hooks [\edit] on the frame under the door..

 

B396DAB5-B838-4038-B689-064BAC5B38D2.jpeg.2b47cb6e37100140d1c8a014861f418c.jpeg

My buffers align nicely...

 

This is to be applauded and hope this shows light into the future of modelling, being able to make unique wagons commercially, printed, painted and rtr finished ! There is a world of potential... it may to prove to be that Hattons generic 4 wheelers are short lived !

 

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Wow, that is some review.

 

I think everyone involved in the project: the CAD designer, the factory, Dapol, Rails and Dr Guy Rixon will be chuffed to read your reaction; I certainly am.  Thank you.  Most importantly, I'm so glad you are pleased with them.

 

Things like the door handle and the horse hook you just couldn't do with injection moulding.

 

I saw the production vans at York earlier this month, but I don't actually have these models myself yet, so it is really good to see your pictures of them.  

 

For products that can sell in the identical thousands, 3D-print is no substitute for injection-moulding, which allows for a much lower per-unit cost, provided you can ammortise the very heavy up-front tooling costs.  But with 3D printing, we can make things that otherwise could not be made; the challenge is to make commercially viable at a cost the consumer can accept.  This van was produced to a batch size that reflected the optimum size for the best unit price; sadly if we print more, they don't become any cheaper!

 

17 hours ago, Wickham Green said:

........... horse hooks !

 

My favourite bit.  When I saw this feature on a chassis test print, that was my moment of truth in terms of what this new tech and material could do. I always point this out to people and never shut up about it!,

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All we need now is a 3D working horse to pull the wagons :D

 

The extreme close ups of the images in the review do show the wagon to be a print but from normal distances and other images seen I expect they will look to all intents and purposes like a normal model wagon.

 

I am looking forward to getting my two.

 

 

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