Oliver Rails Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Wickham Green said: Sounds like they could be OUT of stock in June ( 2019 ) then ......... Cheers, Rails - what's next ? Most definitely will be sold out this month, in fact three have just gone to sold out. We are in the process of looking at potential future models. Edited June 3, 2019 by Oliver Rails 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Nile Posted June 3, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 3, 2019 An early version would be nice. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
truffy Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 16 hours ago, Oliver Rails said: Most definitely will be sold out this month, in fact three have just gone to sold out. Thanks for the kick up the jacksie. Got my order in! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oliver Rails Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 (edited) ORDER BOOK NOW FULL The order book is currently closed on all version. There is a small possibility a few will become available once in stock but this is not guaranteed. Many thanks to everyone who has pre-ordered a van. Updates will continue to follow Edited June 4, 2019 by Oliver Rails 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
truffy Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 I would've taken RL-1424-006 as well, so if a spare comes up I can give it a loving home! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozzer models Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 21 hours ago, Oliver Rails said: Most definitely will be sold out this month, in fact three have just gone to sold out. We are in the process of looking at potential future models. 2 of them are mine 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 2 hours ago, Oliver Rails said: ORDER BOOK NOW FULL The order book is currently closed on all version. There is a small possibility a few will become available once in stock but this is not guaranteed. Presumably IF there seemed to be sufficient demand another batch could 'easily' be run off at some time in the future - there's no tooling to wear out after all ! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarriageShed Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 21 hours ago, Nile said: An early version would be nice. Definitely an earlier version at least. I run a 1929/1930 layout so even if the N gauge shrink ray was brought out I'd still have to reletter the 1936 SR brown version. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 On 04/06/2019 at 15:50, CarriageShed said: Definitely an earlier version at least. I run a 1929/1930 layout so even if the N gauge shrink ray was brought out I'd still have to reletter the 1936 SR brown version. The early version is where my interest lies. A back-dated details could cover SE&CR and early SR. 5 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 27 minutes ago, Edwardian said: The early version is where my interest lies. A back-dated details could cover SE&CR and early SR. I'd second that for SECR back dated and coloured versions. There are still banners on here advertising the current batch which is sold out. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anglian Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 I'd definitely buy an SECR version. 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garethp8873 Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 On 03/06/2019 at 18:19, Nile said: An early version would be nice. On 04/06/2019 at 15:50, CarriageShed said: Definitely an earlier version at least. I run a 1929/1930 layout so even if the N gauge shrink ray was brought out I'd still have to reletter the 1936 SR brown version. I'd suspect a pre-1936 version of the van would be done. There is a photo of an example in departmental use which still has the pre-36 livery on it (p.82 of Southern Wagons Volume Three: SECR Wagons) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinnylinny Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 Sadly it's not just a case of a repaint - these vans had various detail differences earlier in their life, including completely (and distinctively) different brake gear, Mansell wheels, roof ventilators... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 If Rails are using Gibson Wheels, substituting Mansell type would be no hassle whatsoever - roof vents shouldn't be a problem though there would probably be an extra cost for assembly ........... Hill's brake gear, though, is a little more complex and - so far as R.T.R. models are concerned - would be a first, so there would have to be a proven market before Rails went down that road. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 4 hours ago, Wickham Green said: If Rails are using Gibson Wheels, substituting Mansell type would be no hassle whatsoever - roof vents shouldn't be a problem though there would probably be an extra cost for assembly ........... Hill's brake gear, though, is a little more complex and - so far as R.T.R. models are concerned - would be a first, so there would have to be a proven market before Rails went down that road. At least it will be a 3D print rather than injection moulded. So if this batch makes money, a batch backdated should be financially possible. A problem with pre-groupers is that you cannot invent a generic chassis for several wagons and few actually got as far as BR days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 1 hour ago, JSpencer said: A problem with pre-groupers is that you cannot invent a generic chassis for several wagons and few actually got as far as BR days. Depends on your railway and how 'pre' you're thinking of : some of the lines - not least the S.E.C.R. - were very standardised in their wagonry before 1923. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Wickham Green said: Depends on your railway and how 'pre' you're thinking of : some of the lines - not least the S.E.C.R. - were very standardised in their wagonry before 1923. If you take the last batches of SECR wagons prior to grouping, I would agree but these practically all served as templates for SR designs and differ only in minor details. Many of those made it to BR. Many of the SR ones exist in RTR and whilst they would be great variations for the big two to tool up, it would not worth another manufacturer producing them due to shear visual similarity with the SR versions already out there. But designs before that share little in common but are equally far more appealing to the pre grouping modeler though few ever saw BR days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted June 11, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 11, 2019 3 hours ago, JSpencer said: A problem with pre-groupers is that you cannot invent a generic chassis for several wagons and few actually got as far as BR days. Why is that a problem? 2 hours ago, Wickham Green said: Depends on your railway and how 'pre' you're thinking of : some of the lines - not least the S.E.C.R. - were very standardised in their wagonry before 1923. In the SECR's case, only in the few years before grouping. But then the SECR didn't exist for very long before grouping - less than the fleeting quarter-century of the big four - and inherited a very mixed bag from the SER and LCDR. Slater's were on the case long ago - the 9ft wheelbase underframe of their Midland wagon kits is good for some 90,000 wagons. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Compound2632 said: Why is that a problem? In the SECR's case, only in the few years before grouping. But then the SECR didn't exist for very long before grouping - less than the fleeting quarter-century of the big four - and inherited a very mixed bag from the SER and LCDR. Slater's were on the case long ago - the 9ft wheelbase underframe of their Midland wagon kits is good for some 90,000 wagons. Fair comment. I can also see a little sharing with certain LBSCR types too with a greater choice into BR days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Rixon Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 As models gets more accurate, the scope for sharing parts like a complete chassis decreases. If the desired standard is "right wheelbase, and wood solebars, not metal", then there's a lot of scope. If you want all the right details in all the right places then there's very little scope for sharing, even between vehicles of the same railway. The frames for RCH, 12-ton, 1923-spec mineral-wagons are more standard than most subjects, but there are still variations in builders plates and possibly in things like label clips. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 July's BRM contains an interesting interview with Rails. (sight of which courtesy of the ladies on the BRM stand at the Great Central - thank you) I blurred the image below when I realised you could read the whole article; buy the magazine! 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 As you've blurred that, I can't read the bit that tells me when mine are going to land on my doormat ! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
truffy Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 (edited) I'm not sure of the point of such a huge blurred image, TBH. If the purpose was to (a) indicate its availability, while at the same time (b) preventing people from reading it, a judicious crop would've sufficed. Edited June 18, 2019 by truffy wouldn't you like to know? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 On 04/06/2019 at 12:24, Oliver Rails said: ORDER BOOK NOW FULL The order book is currently closed on all version. There is a small possibility a few will become available once in stock but this is not guaranteed. Many thanks to everyone who has pre-ordered a van. Updates will continue to follow ........... with only a week or so of June ( 2019 ) left, is it, perhaps, time for one of those following updates ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oliver Rails Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Wickham Green said: ........... with only a week or so of June ( 2019 ) left, is it, perhaps, time for one of those following updates ? Painting / decoration has commenced and hopefully we should have some images towards the end of the week along with further updates. 3 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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