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One I'd forgotten about and local to my Polish base camp

 

 

 

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This is Tp3 36 at the Muzeum Broni i Pancernej,  Poznan

 

Not something you would necessarily expect to find in a tank museum..

 

The loco is on loan from PSMK (based in Skierniewice)

 

The museum had been open about a month when I visited in October 2019. Four halls of tanks and armour and all apparently are runners, including a Sturmgeschutz IV fished out of a river in 2011 after it fell through the ice fleeing the Russian army in 1945.

 

Fascinating place (free entry on Tuesdays and even has parking for UFOs, seriously, it is on the pictorial direction signs for the car park)  with a tendency towards the German, Polish and Russian equipment as one would expect

 

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So that’s what became of Tp3-36!  It was on display for many years alongside the main line at Zbasnyek - until noted as having disappeared a few years ago.  So a coat of green paint later and voilà (or whatever that is in Polish), it turns up in Poznan.

 

But a tender locomotive in a tank museum?  Most inappropriate!

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23 hours ago, EddieB said:

So that’s what became of Tp3-36!  It was on display for many years alongside the main line at Zbasnyek - until noted as having disappeared a few years ago.  So a coat of green paint later and voilà (or whatever that is in Polish), it turns up in Poznan.

 

But a tender locomotive in a tank museum?  Most inappropriate!

 

 

Well I hadn't realised that. Not a cop after all.

 

I've been through my files and here is the very same loco at Zbaszynek in April 2010. Photographed whilst I was en route back to Poznan after the steam parade at Wolsztyn,

 

 

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I spent a lot of Lockdown 2020 following Wolsztyn Web Cams. Some interesting happenings pther than loads of Fashion Shoots and some Fire Brigade Training around the Depot area including Ol49 69 failing (Driver side Connecting Rod and Valve Gear) after a railtour and having to go to works for quite some time. I think the PT47 also went off somewhere for quite some time as well; not sure what happened there?

Shed shut down before Christmas but there has been some shunting action and both loco's steamed for some reason or another.

During last year there was some 'issues' with the Chat page for the Cameras at the shed, as there were for many of the Wolsztyn Town ones. Some sort of Spanish speaking sex chat line (mainly South America) was using the chat pages (rarely used by anyone); nosey me tried to get someone to moderate it and I got chatting to a member of Shed Staff on night shift one night. He may have passed on the problem? There is/was a report facility where you can screen shot stuff. Some of the chat was explicit...why the hell they used it I do not know and occasionally there were folk from around the World on there too. On investigating things I find there are organised, International sex chat groups that seem to use unmoderated Web Cams for contact chat! Weird! Anyway, around October the Cameras were turned off, as were several covering Childrens' Play areas in Wolsztyn. When they were turned on again, the Chat feature was disabled and the Childrens' ones no longer available on U Tube. Shame really as there was some railway chat on the Shed Cams, including news from Train Guards. 

When I asked around the UK and some other areas I was told that there had been problems but many Railway Web cams now have large teams of Moderators and they have dealt with such rubbish and kicked it out. What a strange world. It seems that these Groups find a Cam that has the chat facility that is never used and then tell members that it is available for whatever it is they need to do!

Those Wolsztyn Web Cams were responsible for me spending far too long looking at cams across the whole of Poland and also Nederlands and the USA. That in turn led to Google Earth Tours of railway areas as well and looking at loads of Vids on Utube. The Poles really love their trains and there is a large Model Railway community. I was aware of that as I have visited the Krakow Club by invitation in 2008 I think it was? 

There is a strange, but seemingly harmless, family of 'enthusiasts' that inhabit these Cams and in the UK some bods seem to spend their lives looking at Cams all over the Country; quite a Club.

Such fun and thank you for the new Phots. 

Phil

 

 

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Having a bit of time on my hands I have been looking through my old photos and present two more locos plinthed at stations

 

TKh49 5564 at Torun Glowny in 2009

 

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And a loco I never managed to identify with any confidence (even by the power of the internet)  at Krakow Plaszow in 2013 (Perhaps someone out there in RMWeb land knows its identity.)

 

 

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The loco at Krakow-Plaszow is TKp-2239, ex-Huta Lenina (to appease the Soviets?) HL-16, Chrzanow 2239 of 1950.

 

I must have missed seeing it when I visited the shed, but not the station there in 2002, as I have a record of it being there at the time.

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2 hours ago, EddieB said:

The loco at Krakow-Plaszow is TKp-2239, ex-Huta Lenina (to appease the Soviets?) HL-16, Chrzanow 2239 of 1950.

 

I must have missed seeing it when I visited the shed, but not the station there in 2002, as I have a record of it being there at the time.

 

It was outside the station so that may explain it. It is also partly hidden behind some trees, or at least it was 7 years ago.

 

Thank you for identifying it and  also explaining why I kept coming up with conflicting TKp and HL16 descriptions causing my brain to hurt.

 

Now where's my Polish ABC Combined Volume?

 

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Back in 2011, accompanied by Mrs SM42, I took a train out to Gniesno (no I didn't know about the narrow gauge railway across the street. She never told me.) and a bus out to Znin

 

From there a narrow gauge line runs to Gasowa.

 

At around the mid point there is a museum at Wenecja next to the station.

 

Here are a couple of quick shots I took over the fence from the platform during the short stop our train made.

 

This I believe is Tx2 355

 

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Tyb5 471 and a friend who's identity I can't make out

 

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Yes, the miniature Pacific was one of a batch of six built by Tubize in Belgium, in connection with the Brussels Expo.  No. 3 (Tubize 2179/1935) was sent to Poland, and has been restored for the museum as Pm1-1.  It previously worked at the ZPC Chelmica (sugar factory), where numbered Tm 135-13. 

 

(I'd forgotten a previous posting:) 

 

As I understand it, one of its "lost" sister locomotives turned up in Belgium a few years ago and is in the process of restoration.  Here is  no. 1 "ADOLPHE" (Tubize 2177/1935), seen at the Maldegem festival in May 2019.

 

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On 22/01/2021 at 22:31, SM42 said:

 

 

This I believe is Tx2 355

 

 

Tyb5 471 and a friend who's identity I can't make out

 

 

Andy

 

 

Yes, Tx2-355 (0-8-0T O&K 5020/1911).

 

Unless there was a reorganisation of the exhibits, I think the "friend" is Tx-10660 (0-8-0T Chrzanow 763/1939, ex-Solvay Krakow).

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2 hours ago, EddieB said:

Yes, Tx2-355 (0-8-0T O&K 5020/1911).

 

Unless there was a reorganisation of the exhibits, I think the "friend" is Tx-10660 (0-8-0T Chrzanow 763/1939, ex-Solvay Krakow).

 

Thanks for  that Eddie.

 

I wasn't really paying attention on that day and an (almost) pint of Warka  at Znin and Okocim (better on draft) at Biskupin  in the middle of the day didn't help.

 

I was enjoying the ride and catching some rays.

 

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A quick shot from a moving train yestetday of Ty51 37 plinthed at  Rzepin

 

Shame I didn't have time to get off for a proper shot

 

 

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There  must be something about Wolsztyn 

 

I called in there on Monday during a drive back from Zielona Gora to Poznan and like the last time I was there it was tipping it down, but at least it was 14c warmer this time

 

Here are a few shots I took before I got too wet. 

 

Ty43 82

 

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Ty1 78

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Ty51 223

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More to follow

 

Andy

 

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A few more that I couldn't identify at the time and wasn't going to hang around doing so 

If anyone wants to identify these please feel free

 

The puddleometer was working overtime

 

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There was another line of locos parked up by the station but I didn't venture that far and I had family waiting patiently in the car thinking; "why is  this fool of an Englishman wandering about in the rain looking at old trains?" ( they're not that bad really. At least I don't think so)

 

Things have been moved around  a bit since 2019. 

 

A couple of the locos, like the first one above, had been separated from their tenders

 

Andy

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16 hours ago, SM42 said:

A few more that I couldn't identify at the time and wasn't going to hang around doing so 

If anyone wants to identify these please feel free

 

The puddleometer was working overtime

 

...

 

Things have been moved around  a bit since 2019. 

 

A couple of the locos, like the first one above, had been separated from their tenders

 

Yes, I think Wolsztyn enjoys its own microclimate - wet and very wet!

 

Things have moved even more since I was last there, but here are what I think are the right identities...

 

The top picture appears to be Ty5-10 (separated from tender).

 

The middle one is one of the "other" Wolsztyn Ty43s (noting that the loco in the previous post was Ty43-92, not Ty43-82).  Out of them, I think it looks more like Ty43-123 than Ty3-2 (Ty43-126).

 

As to the Ty2 at the bottom, I'm guessing at Ty2-1298 (presented as Ty2-1398) as the other (Ty2-406) used to have a pronounced bend in the running plate on that side.

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TY51 183 was mentioned some time ago.

 

Here she is in all her plinthed glory on Bulgarska Street with Lech Poznan's home ground in the background.

 

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At some point I will look out and replace the missing photos 

 

However, in the meantime  here is a sorry looking Tkt48 ( either28 or29, I couldn't make it out) parked up outside the depot at Szczecin Port Centralna.

 

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8 hours ago, SM42 said:

At some point I will look out and replace the missing photos 

 

However, in the meantime  here is a sorry looking Tkt48 ( either28 or29, I couldn't make it out) parked up outside the depot at Szczecin Port Centralna.

 

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Andy

 

TKt48 29 used to be parked up next to Szczecin Glowny as I took a photo of it back in 2005......

 

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Posted (edited)

It's been a while since i last came round this way but in the meantime I've been out and about in the motherland. 

 

Back in December I popped over to Park Rataje in Poznan and found this Tkt48 *

 

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Also on  site was this narrow gauge loco

 

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Despite being on display in a public park along with a carriage, non were vandalised

 

 

Andy

 

*back sometime in 2014 I saw Tkt48 130 plinthed in Kutno IIRC

 

 

 

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Posted (edited)

Back in Octobet 2022 I popped over to Wolsztyn to catch the mid morning steam hauled service train to Leszno. 

 

Here is our loco, Ol49 69 completing the run round at Leszno.

 

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I'm told around two weeks later it failed and there ended the steam hauled service till around June. 

 

A couple of days later I was in Bydgoszcz and this Tkp1  was plinthed at, I think, the East end of the station

 

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Andy

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