RMweb Gold Harlequin Posted July 21, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 21, 2019 (edited) Hi Alex, This is from the 1953 OS 1:2500 map on old-maps.co.uk: This map has the standard 100m grid on it so it's possible to measure the building approximately and I get this: Do those numbers seem right? Edit: Actually, I suspect there's a right angled corner against the branch platform as well (Point E on your drawing). I'll adjust the shape to do that and see how far it deviates from the OS map outline... Edited July 21, 2019 by Harlequin 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Harlequin Posted July 21, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 21, 2019 (edited) With a right angle at point E: You can see that the CE wall deviates from the OS map now but that was probably difficult for the map makers to survey and draw accurately. That feels better to me. Right-angles are good. Edited July 22, 2019 by Harlequin 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiggoforgold Posted July 25, 2019 Author Share Posted July 25, 2019 Thanks Brian I think I'm more or less there with the building. As you say in the absence of definitive information, a little modellers licence won't hurt! i've found a wonderful set of colour photos of the buildings at Yelverton on Malcolm Mitchell's "A" shop Facebook page. They were taken by the late George Iliffe-Stokes in about 1958 when he was researching for the models at Pendon. Have you seen them? Alex Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiggoforgold Posted July 25, 2019 Author Share Posted July 25, 2019 Thank you all for the replies. My apologies for my lateness in replying, but I've only just seen them as I've been away from here for about 10 days. Special thanks to Phil if I may for the plans. We walked along the line from Pricetown a few weeks ago. It,t a nice walk, and it was interesting seeing the road from Dousland from a different angle. I know the Fox Tor well, as it's a coffe stop on my regular cycle rides. I have a loyalty card... Alex Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiggoforgold Posted July 26, 2019 Author Share Posted July 26, 2019 (edited) I've started work on some of the buildings for Yelverton. First up is the pagoda on the down platform. I used two Wills kits, and I've taken a picture of the completed building posed with the Wills packet, to show the changes. The width is the same, but it now has widows in the front, and double doors. I haven't weathered it yet and the roof isn.t glued in place, which is why it is slightly offset in the picture! Having got this far, I'm not totally happy with the front, as I feel the windows and door are set too far back in the sides, and I may rebuild this. I've started wotk on the down platform building, and the pictures show progress to date. I'm keen to start work on the up platform building I'm ptretty confident we have establised the shape, and I've found some useful pictures. In the period of my model (1958), the south end in particular was heavily weathered, due, I suspect, to exposure to the elements, and this presents an opportunity to try some new techniques. I'm hoping to get the framework for the baseboards cut ths weekend, then I'm planning further development on the motive power front. There will then be a hiatus for the next few weeks, as I need to do some work on Upwell Drove to make it ready for a couple of shows later in the year. Alex. Edited July 26, 2019 by wiggoforgold Added sentence 17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Have you got any dimensioned sketches for those building panels (particularly for height). What thickness did you use for the panelling (30 thou?) and what half-round size did you use for the board beading? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiggoforgold Posted July 26, 2019 Author Share Posted July 26, 2019 (edited) The sides are 55mm high from platform level to the top of the sides. The front is 40 thou lower than the sides and ends to allow for a false ceiling which will also support the back edge of the canopy. The panels are from Slaters 2mm planked plasticard, which is 30 thou I think. The length of the sides is calculated by counting the number of planks on the real thing, and using the same number of plasticard planks. The vertical framing is from 0.8mm x 2.0 mm Plastruct strip (90734) and the board beading is 0.4mm Plastruct rod ((90710). I can pm you a scan of my very rough scketch if you like. The panels have a backing of 30 thou plastic sheet (with apertures for the glazing) for strength. Alex Edited July 26, 2019 by wiggoforgold Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Harlequin Posted July 27, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 27, 2019 For what it's worth I used the same map as above to measure the down platform building and I get 2.75m by 8.36m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiggoforgold Posted July 27, 2019 Author Share Posted July 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Harlequin said: For what it's worth I used the same map as above to measure the down platform building and I get 2.75m by 8.36m. I counted the planks on the awning, and measured a strip of Slaters GWR valence and that gave me 26'6"! can I be cheeky and ask your view of the width of the accommodation bridge? Alex 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Harlequin Posted July 27, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 27, 2019 19 minutes ago, wiggoforgold said: I counted the planks on the awning, and measured a strip of Slaters GWR valence and that gave me 26'6"! can I be cheeky and ask your view of the width of the accommodation bridge? Alex No problem. I'm not familiar with the structure but if you believe the map it seems to be slightly lozenge shaped on plan: BTW: Our size estimates for the down platform building are straddling 9ft by 27ft - in other words exactly three times as long as it is wide... Significant? I don't know. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiggoforgold Posted July 27, 2019 Author Share Posted July 27, 2019 (edited) Thanks Phil. That's what I needed. I'm thinking a ratio signal gantry or an N gauge girder bridge might provide a starting point. Alex Edited July 27, 2019 by wiggoforgold 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted July 30, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 30, 2019 This was on a FB Plymouth old pics thread. Any use? http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1831534580192753&set=pcb.984648715034007&type=3&theater&ifg=1 Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiggoforgold Posted August 1, 2019 Author Share Posted August 1, 2019 (edited) Hi Phil looks like you have to be a member of the group to see the pictures. I'll join up later. Alex Edited August 1, 2019 by wiggoforgold 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiggoforgold Posted August 6, 2019 Author Share Posted August 6, 2019 (edited) This is the current state of play with the Down platform buildings for Yelverton. The pagoda is from two Wills kits, but I'm not happy with the front wall, and am going to rework it so the windows and door are not recessed so far. The waiting room is being scratchbuilt from styrene sheet and strip. Next on the workbench is a 45xx. I reckon for now I can spend about another 10 days on this, before doing some work to get Upwell Drove ready for it's next show, Alex Edited August 6, 2019 by wiggoforgold 9 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wiggoforgold Posted August 10, 2019 Author Popular Post Share Posted August 10, 2019 The down platform building is now primed and almost ready for painting. I want to add a few more details (eg down pipes and canopy supports) and do a bit of cleaning up before painting can start. Alex 18 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted August 11, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 11, 2019 On 30/07/2019 at 08:39, Mallard60022 said: This was on a FB Plymouth old pics thread. Any use? http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1831534580192753&set=pcb.984648715034007&type=3&theater&ifg=1 Phil 8 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianusa Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 Nice old picture, Phil. Never quite sure what that kind of track is referred to, certainly no chairs or sleepers like the later variety but can be early with the two branch points in situ. The locals look pretty prosperous and I can relate to the kids In school caps and raincoats, looks around WW1. I was there in the fifties although uniforms didn't change that much over the years and the station remained the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiggoforgold Posted August 11, 2019 Author Share Posted August 11, 2019 Thanks for posting the picture Phil. Yes it is of use. It's quite a common view point over the years but I hadn't seen that one before. As well as another end view of the down platform , it give some useful views of the platform surface and the fence panels behind the platform, which will all go onto the model. the pagoda on the down platform must be nearly new; there's a similar photo from the same viewpoint which mst have been taken a few years earlier, and the pagoda is not present. Alex 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Siberian Snooper Posted August 12, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 12, 2019 10 hours ago, brianusa said: Nice old picture, Phil. Never quite sure what that kind of track is referred to, certainly no chairs or sleepers like the later variety but can be early with the two branch points in situ. The locals look pretty prosperous and I can relate to the kids In school caps and raincoats, looks around WW1. I was there in the fifties although uniforms didn't change that much over the years and the station remained the same. Brian, it's baulk track. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianusa Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Ah, baulk track is it? Thought it might be, but not sure with dating, etc. So any idea of the change to conventional track which might put my estimate around WW1 to shame. Brian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim V Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 You do know that Pendon measured up Yelverton building for their model - perhaps you could ask them for a copy of their drawings? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiggoforgold Posted August 12, 2019 Author Share Posted August 12, 2019 (edited) On 12 August 2019 at 20:41, Tim V said: You do know that Pendon measured up Yelverton building for their model - perhaps you could ask them for a copy of their drawings? I do indeed Tim. I've asked, but I haven't heard anything yet. I'm not too worried though as I've found some really good photos on Malcolm Mitchell's "A" shop Facebook page, which George Illife Stokes took when he was working on the model. We've established the main dimensions I think, so I've got enough to produce some workable drawings. Alex Edited August 13, 2019 by wiggoforgold Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiggoforgold Posted August 12, 2019 Author Share Posted August 12, 2019 1 hour ago, brianusa said: Ah, baulk track is it? Thought it might be, but not sure with dating, etc. So any idea of the change to conventional track which might put my estimate around WW1 to shame. Brian. Brian, Frith photo from similar view point dated 1906 shows baulk track and no pagoda. Alex 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wiggoforgold Posted August 16, 2019 Author Popular Post Share Posted August 16, 2019 My usual Friday cycling activities were curtailed today by the weather. I spent the time working on the down platform building for Yelverton instead. I've nearly finished the building, it just need canopy supports and downpipes. I'm still thinking about an interior and the best way to fit the brackets, so they will wait for a while. Any similarity between the first two two pictures and the ones on Malcolm Mitchell's Facebook page are entirely coincidental Alex 15 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Brinkly Posted August 16, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 16, 2019 It looks suitably worn down Alex! Good job. Regards, Nick 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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