RMweb Gold D9020 Nimbus Posted June 7, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 7, 2022 4 hours ago, Kris said: Easyshunts fit to Bachmann stock without issue so I suspect that the issue is with the Peco coupling. I haven't found this to be the case — but EasiShunts do, in my experience, fit the coupler pocket on Peco 009 stock without problems. Normally EasiShunts are too big to fit in Farish coupler pockets, and Farish couplings are too small to fit and stay in other manufacturers' pockets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluedepot Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 an advert in the n gauge journal says new wagons are due for release in september... so just a few days to go... the advert has pictures of 7 plank wagons in various liveries. tim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluedepot Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 i just ordered one on ebay (from agr models) it was £20 but that included postage just curious to see what the new generation of peco wagons are like 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PMP Posted November 10, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 10, 2022 On 06/11/2022 at 14:04, bluedepot said: i just ordered one on ebay (from agr models) it was £20 but that included postage just curious to see what the new generation of peco wagons are like https://albionyard.com/2022/11/10/peco-quality-line-n-gauge-wagons-review/ They’re the best RCH 1923 types so far. The only let down for me is the brake lever is a bit clunky compared to the Farish version. However an etched replacement would be brilliant. Overall it edges the Farish version with better, finer tooling, and noticeably thinner sides. You could still run them side by side with no real stand out difference though. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffolk Rob Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 I ordered a BR one, pretty much to see what they're like. I'd agree with everything PMP says above but the stand out thing for me, unless you're into fitting alternatives, over the Farish models is the coupling distance. It's just one of those things that the Farish models were one of their final models before NEM became standard for them, as it is with the 12T vans and minerals but the gap between wagons was always what drew my eye, ahead of the underframe detail. Nice model that bodes well for further over hall of the range Rob 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefen1988 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Retooled Brake Vans would be nice. Have they hinted which wagons they will revise next? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium maq1988 Posted November 10, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 10, 2022 I wonder if we'll ever see these released as an addition to the plastic kit range - I'd be happy to assemble + paint some myself. I know the 10ft wheelbase kits have their issues but it was a nice cheapish way to build up a quick rake of basic wagons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PMP Posted November 11, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 11, 2022 15 hours ago, Stefen1988 said: Retooled Brake Vans would be nice. Have they hinted which wagons they will revise next? Not that I’m aware of, however Warley’s coming up where visitors speak to the team and make requests 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Crepello Posted November 11, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 11, 2022 Why do we need re-tooled brake vans? I think the Farish ones do the job more than adequately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold D9020 Nimbus Posted November 11, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 11, 2022 Possibly for availability reasons? The existing Peco BR standard brake van looks extremely stretched horizontally. It lacks detail and isn't even comparable to the old Minitrix model. The Peco wagon I'd most like to see re-tooled is the "whisky wagon" grain wagon. It's never been done by Farish and the one Bachmann do in OO from time to time is, I believe, essentially the 1960s Trix/Liliput tooling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefen1988 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 Peco also has a pre-Grouping GNR Brake Van which would be nice as a modern N model with NEM couplers. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benn Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 I'll look forward to seeing the new wagons at Warley. I'm hoping that if these are a success, then the chassis will become available for kits (the NGS kits are let down by the 1970s Peco chassis!) and we might see a few twin-axle wagons that are missing from the Farish range. The GWR box van, and a big one, an LMS/BR 5 plank open with steel chassis, suitable for use into later BR years, would be nice starters. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Crepello Posted November 18, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 18, 2022 Agreed the open is a huge omission by Farish . The BR pallet van would be very welcome too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin1985 Posted December 4, 2022 Author Share Posted December 4, 2022 Here's a direct "before and after" comparison of the Colman's mineral wagon (old wagon weathered and loaded): The differences in proportions are really striking! And with a (rubbed down for weathering) Mathieson wagon: The sides of the new PECO wagon are definitely thinner than the Mathieson, but I still feel the (prototypically slightly smaller as a 1907 wagon) Mathieson has detail that feels a little more refined, or 'balanced' overall. Definitely shows how far away the old PECO "minerals" were from the real look and proportions though! I'm sure we'll see the prodigious range of liveries, and retailer specials etc, appearing on the new moulding wagons - which has got to be a great thing! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Higgs Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 On 04/12/2022 at 23:37, justin1985 said: Here's a direct "before and after" comparison of the Colman's mineral wagon (old wagon weathered and loaded): The differences in proportions are really striking! And with a (rubbed down for weathering) Mathieson wagon: The sides of the new PECO wagon are definitely thinner than the Mathieson, but I still feel the (prototypically slightly smaller as a 1907 wagon) Mathieson has detail that feels a little more refined, or 'balanced' overall. Definitely shows how far away the old PECO "minerals" were from the real look and proportions though! I'm sure we'll see the prodigious range of liveries, and retailer specials etc, appearing on the new moulding wagons - which has got to be a great thing! I also like the 'barely there' gaps between planks which are how a real wagon actually looks. Chris 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold franciswilliamwebb Posted December 22, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, Chris Higgs said: I also like the 'barely there' gaps between planks which are how a real wagon actually looks. Very much so. The Farish equivalents are particularly poor in this area, tending toward the cattle wagon end of the spectrum! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Crepello Posted January 10, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 10, 2023 My attempt to fit Dapol NEM couplings was unsuccessful, even with a ‘horizontal’ pin cut off. Looks like it’s going to have a conversion pocket installed. Disappointing to say the least. Nice wagon though and not as crude as I was led to believe from the enlarged close-ups. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Crepello Posted January 14, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 14, 2023 (edited) The Peco pocket can be cut off with a sharp knife and the chassis base filed flat to receive the Dapol pocket. The axles can be popped out with a screwdriver and very easily replaced, should you wish to remove them; a nice new design feature. Edited January 14, 2023 by Crepello Omission of word Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold D9020 Nimbus Posted January 14, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 14, 2023 That's curious, as I had no problems fitting Dapol couplings to Peco 009 wagons—you would think the dimensions would be the same. Why can't British manufacturers (Farish have issues too) get this right, when European outline models are no problem? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Crepello Posted January 22, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 22, 2023 Another plus-point, the Farish coal loads fit them perfectly. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefen1988 Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 Do you think Peco will announce more retooled Wagons in N? Any further rumors about them coming als as Kits? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluedepot Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 hi they have already announced new 16 ton minerals, pig iron wagon, iron ore wagon. tim 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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