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21 minutes ago, chris p bacon said:

 

Sorry John I have to disagree, while Larry's work was top notch his attitude to others was not. I found him a toxic poster with a lack of respect for others, he hid/deleted more of his posts than he left which led to disjointed conversations. He would insult a poster then delete the post, (he did this to me twice). He told me once that he had nothing to learn from the forum as he considered himself the most skilled person here, I suggested that he looked at the subject of manners as he was but a novice in that subject.

 

Ditto very unpleasant person . He is now on the Western Thunder site, and appears to be pleasant at the moment ,on the little he has posted so far (be warned).

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2 hours ago, Pete 75C said:

 

In your opinion. Please don't present it as fact.

Best we move on.

 

Another missing forum member is Derek Stuart, who hasn't been online for a couple of years. Last heard of about to embark on a road trip off the beaten track down through Spain. I tend to assume the worst, but I do hope he got to make that trip.

 

2 hours ago, chris p bacon said:

 

Sorry John I have to disagree, while Larry's work was top notch his attitude to others was not. I found him a toxic poster with a lack of respect for others, he hid/deleted more of his posts than he left which led to disjointed conversations. He would insult a poster then delete the post, (he did this to me twice). He told me once that he had nothing to learn from the forum as he considered himself the most skilled person here, I suggested that he looked at the subject of manners as he was but a novice in that subject.

 

 

2 hours ago, micklner said:

Ditto very unpleasant person . He is now on the Western Thunder site, and appears to be pleasant at the moment ,on the little he has posted so far (be warned).

 

1 hour ago, AY Mod said:

 

Including the ones insulting other members who may have mental health issues? I don't care who anyone thinks they are that is not permissible at all. 

 

I stand corrected, a side I never saw or suffered from. I can think of a few members who are/were in my experience far worse, but then I obviously missed either the threads where this went on, or items were deleted before I read them, 

 

On a shear modelling aspect I stand by my opinion

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LGs Coach Building thread and the many pictures he posted were inspiring to me and got me started on that sort of thing. However, I noticed a deterioration in Forum behaviour over the years and LG began to demonstrate some worrying 'behaviour' in the activities he was doing on his layout thread; not insulting posts but his actual activity. This seemed to have followed on from his just deleting all those lovely coach thread posts. In my experience this demonstrates certain things that I would not want to suggest on here but I do therefore hope he is well, even if he was a cussed person and very patronising to many. 

The one person I remember well on here, but for an unusual and sad reason, maybe about 9 or ten years ago, was Meld I think it was, who's final post was on his Status update to say his wife had just died. Made me really upset and I so hope he managed to carry on. 

I have discussed what I want  SWMBO to do on RMW when I get withdrawn/scrapped. I think it would be helpful to know when ordinary members disappear, if they are OK or have passed away. I know that situation is private but we are like a big club really are we not?

ATB

Phil (who has I am sure been on the verge of expulsion on many, many occasions).

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5 hours ago, chris p bacon said:

 

Sorry John I have to disagree, while Larry's work was top notch his attitude to others was not. I found him a toxic poster with a lack of respect for others, he hid/deleted more of his posts than he left which led to disjointed conversations. He would insult a poster then delete the post, (he did this to me twice). He told me once that he had nothing to learn from the forum as he considered himself the most skilled person here, I suggested that he looked at the subject of manners as he was but a novice in that subject.

 

I once managed to cop it - for agreeing with him!

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4 hours ago, cctransuk said:

 

Interesting site - lots of real modelling going on!

 

Thanks for the heads-up.

 

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John Isherwood.

 

It is interesting. But the thing I don't like about it is that you have to sign up and sign in to see the photos as they are all tiny.

 

Whilst I appreciate that some may be concerned about copyright, it does make it seem like a "members only club".

 

 

Jason

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51 minutes ago, Steamport Southport said:

It is interesting. But the thing I don't like about it is that you have to sign up and sign in to see the photos as they are all tiny.

Whilst I appreciate that some may be concerned about copyright, it does make it seem like a "members only club".

 

Jason

 

I haven't visited (I'm quite happy fumbling about here) but is it free to sign up to? If so, there's nothing to lose. I guess you certainly don't have to be an active member. I believe there's a huge amount of folk who are members of RMWeb but don't ever post anything worthy of being called modelling.

 

Sorry, I did a Larry there...

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1 minute ago, Pete 75C said:

 

I haven't visited (I'm quite happy fumbling about here) but is it free to sign up to? If so, there's nothing to lose.

 

 

It is free to sign up - which I've done - but the confirmation / admittance e-mail that is supposed to come straight back to you ..... doesn't!

 

So I'm waiting, presumably to be 'vetted', whilst reading some of the very interesting threads.

 

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John Isherwood.

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1 hour ago, cctransuk said:

 

It is free to sign up - which I've done - but the confirmation / admittance e-mail that is supposed to come straight back to you ..... doesn't!

 

So I'm waiting, presumably to be 'vetted', whilst reading some of the very interesting threads.

 

Regards,

John Isherwood.

 

Maybe they don't want you........:D

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19 minutes ago, chris p bacon said:

 

Maybe they don't want you........:D

 

Could well be the case - but then I wouldn't wish to be a member of a group that didn't value my input !! :onthequiet:

 

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John Isherwood.

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5 hours ago, cctransuk said:

 

Could well be the case - but then I wouldn't wish to be a member of a group that didn't value my input !! :onthequiet:

 

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John Isherwood.

 

I was expecting you to say that you would not want to be a member of a group that would want you as a member!

 

I am a member of WT (and here). I only post my modelling on the Scalefour society forum simply because I cannot be bothered to post the same thing everywhere, a practice that is rather common.

 

Craig W

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12 hours ago, Mallard60022 said:

I have discussed what I want  SWMBO to do on RMW when I get withdrawn/scrapped. I think it would be helpful to know when ordinary members disappear, if they are OK or have passed away

 

That's a real problem with our online world and increasing reliance and presence on the internet. Applies not only to forums such as this but is especially relevant to social media platforms; I am not a twit-insta-book user but I can see it becoming an increasing problem for society as people grapple to know what to do with accounts when folk shuffle off this mortal coil. 

 

13 hours ago, cctransuk said:

Interesting site - lots of real modelling going on!

 

 

I am a member of the Western Thunder site and it caters for all aspects of modelling and interests, but with a obvious focus towards the Western Region. I do occasionally log in to have a look at what is going on and have learned a lot from reading the forum.

 

However, what I would say is that there is sometimes a condescending, or even self-righteous attitude by some folk (very much a minority) who post there. There is some exceptional modelling on display, to standards I can only dream of, but sometimes I feel inferior and out of my depth..... there is an underlying theme of what constitutes 'real modelling', something I feel uncomfortable with - this hobby should be an inclusive broad church that welcomes every approach. So I do think it is an interesting little community but I rarely post there and I enjoy sharing on RM Web as I feel it is a more inclusive environment, catering for all tastes, particularly being ready to accommodate those of very limited modelling ability, such as myself. That is simply my opinion though and it's definitely a case of horses for courses! 

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I haven't looked at, still less felt inclined to join, WT, but must say that in the decade I have been here I feel the church has broadened rather than narrowed. When I joined there was a terrifying thread called On My Workbench, where it seemed modellers produced exhibition-quality models from baked-bean cans. If you look, you can still find the view that unless you have successfully built and painted a brass kit you aren't a true modeller, but it isn't as all-pervading as it sounds to be on WT. Suits me. 

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8 hours ago, Craigw said:

 

I was expecting you to say that you would not want to be a member of a group that would want you as a member!

 

 

It did cross my mind - but it wasn't appropriate in the current context.

 

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John Isherwood.

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I have looked at WT. the last time was when RM Web was off line for the upgrade. It never feels comfortable. RM Web is the only social media that I have ever got involved with, most of the natives are friendly unlike some railway forums

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1 hour ago, laurenceb said:

I have looked at WT. the last time was when RM Web was off line for the upgrade. It never feels comfortable. RM Web is the only social media that I have ever got involved with, most of the natives are friendly unlike some railway forums

Some forums get very "Clique-y" and don't seem to want to engage with newbies.

I'm on Railcam UK, mainly for the cameras but I tried the forum (chatroom) and found the main posters were extremely rude, ignoring anyone who wasn't one of the "club"

I posted three times without a response to my input, haven't been on since.

 

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5 hours ago, Oldddudders said:

I haven't looked at, still less felt inclined to join, WT, but must say that in the decade I have been here I feel the church has broadened rather than narrowed. When I joined there was a terrifying thread called On My Workbench, where it seemed modellers produced exhibition-quality models from baked-bean cans. If you look, you can still find the view that unless you have successfully built and painted a brass kit you aren't a true modeller, but it isn't as all-pervading as it sounds to be on WT. Suits me. 

 

Well. I managed to build a Connaisseur etched brass single bolster. It even has couplings . Trouble is, a single single bolster is no use on the Boxfile ... so it sits in the stockbox unused . Meanwhile the other single bolster (it was a double Pocket Money Kit) sits part-built in the shoebox and a Parkside kit awaits its couplings.

 

 My casual outside impression of WT is - my first interests lie within the original ER , and the GW is probably the Grouping company I have least interest in, serving the area of the country with which I have least connection. So a Western-focussed forum isn't a positive to me. It also seems to pride itself on a very austere ethos where anything outside constructional detail is not to be discussed - I have interests that are not strictly confined to the soldering iron, the file and the solvent brush, and a forum where the monitors jump on anyone who strays from the beaten path to look at the flowers in the verge and listen to the birds in the hedgerows is not for me . I'd be in trouble for straying very fast . I have a sense that lines have been drawn, quite tightly , and they are not to be crossed. 

 

Baked bean cans have never recovered as modelling materials from having corregations stamped into them for the disabled..:jester:.  And oil is no longer supplied in large Castrol metal cans which could be soldered into model locomotives ("The man who built an LNER Q1 from an oil can" is sadly an extinct breed) 

 

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However, what I would say is that there is sometimes a condescending, or even self-righteous attitude by some folk (very much a minority) who post there. There is some exceptional modelling on display, to standards I can only dream of, but sometimes I feel inferior and out of my depth..... there is an underlying theme of what constitutes 'real modelling', something I feel uncomfortable with - this hobby should be an inclusive broad church that welcomes every approach.

 

I am not myself a "card-carrying finescale modeller" [with an emphasis on the carrying of the card] , and I rather fear I would be for ever below the salt in that kind of company.  This sort of company is a far more congenial place Mega hack thread

 

Reverting to the original question - I grow a little more concerned about Bertiedog given the lack of information and his evident age. This might be a case where no news is not good news

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4 hours ago, Ravenser said:

 I grow a little more concerned about Bertiedog given the lack of information and his evident age. This might be a case where no news is not good news

 

I agree, I was able to help him a few years ago with some drawings and the resultant email conversation made a dull work day something altogether different. 

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7 hours ago, Ravenser said:

I am not myself a "card-carrying finescale modeller" [with an emphasis on the carrying of the card] , and I rather fear I would be for ever below the salt in that kind of company.  This sort of company is a far more congenial place Mega hack thread

 

 

You and me both my friend... if a job can be done in a bodged manner then I am your man!! :laugh_mini:

 

7 hours ago, Ravenser said:

Reverting to the original question - I grow a little more concerned about Bertiedog given the lack of information and his evident age. This might be a case where no news is not good news

 

Yes, getting back to the important point, fingers-crossed everything is OK with Bertiedog and he will reappear in due course. 

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11 hours ago, south_tyne said:

 

Yes, getting back to the important point, fingers-crossed everything is OK with Bertiedog and he will reappear in due course. 

 

Well, if Gateshead can do it there's hope for him yet.

On a slightly more serious note, which of us could exit this mortal coil and electronically there would be no one to inform the rest of the forum/computer world? I for one could disappear without anyone knowing, (put your hands down at the back!), and I'm sure many others of us don't have a back up plan in place, unlike some who have close modelling friends on here, or as in some cases, wives/partners who have been able to pass information on.

 

Mike.

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19 hours ago, Ravenser said:

 

 My casual outside impression of WT is - my first interests lie within the original ER , and the GW is probably the Grouping company I have least interest in, serving the area of the country with which I have least connection. So a Western-focussed forum isn't a positive to me. It also seems to pride itself on a very austere ethos where anything outside constructional detail is not to be discussed - I have interests that are not strictly confined to the soldering iron, the file and the solvent brush, and a forum where the monitors jump on anyone who strays from the beaten path to look at the flowers in the verge and listen to the birds in the hedgerows is not for me . I'd be in trouble for straying very fast . I have a sense that lines have been drawn, quite tightly , and they are not to be crossed. 

 

 

 

That may have been the case in its early days when it was started up to cater for modellers interested in Western Region hydraulic locomotives - hence its title - but is definitley no loinger the case these days.   The most popular scale featured is probably 7mm scale,  but all other scales are featured,  and there is no strong GWR bias these days.

 

Jim.

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On 04/06/2019 at 09:20, Pete 75C said:

 

In your opinion. Please don't present it as fact.

Best we move on.

 

Another missing forum member is Derek Stuart, who hasn't been online for a couple of years. Last heard of about to embark on a road trip off the beaten track down through Spain. I tend to assume the worst, but I do hope he got to make that trip.

 

I have had a quick look at the site, would take a bit to get used to how things work as it does differ from here and in my opinion not as easy to use/find specialist subjects. At a quick glance some very interesting threads on it, but not superior to what's available here 

 

 

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On 26/05/2019 at 17:00, jwealleans said:

He's taken sabbaticals before.

Yes some people only use the internet when at work and don't have any internet at home and somehow live without it.

A good friend of mine only uses the library internet now. No idea if that is the case of Bertiedog.

 

Others have left because they objected to the current version of RMweb. Again I don't understand why. 

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