RMweb Gold Gilbert Posted August 29, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 29, 2021 46 minutes ago, rob D2 said: Are these the straps mentioned before combined with trains4 u chocks ? ScaleModel Scenery straps and the T4U chocks https://www.scalemodelscenery.co.uk/ax031-oo-ratchet-straps-orange-pack-of-94-oo4mm176-1340-p.asp 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Gilbert Posted August 29, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 29, 2021 The chocks need careful handling - a couple of mine were broken in the packet but I only needed 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black and decker boy Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 On 23/08/2021 at 12:52, Gilbert said: Too late.... If I wasn’t convinced before (I was), that photo spurred me into action so a visit to the shop today has seen 2 of these purchased 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dungrange Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 On 23/08/2021 at 12:52, Gilbert said: Too late.... That looks really good, but how common is it for these wagons to be loaded up with different vehicle types? My perception (which could of course be wrong) is that these tend to carry a number of what look like identical vehicles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted September 10, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Dungrange said: That looks really good, but how common is it for these wagons to be loaded up with different vehicle types? My perception (which could of course be wrong) is that these tend to carry a number of what look like identical vehicles. Quite common to see longer trains with a full unit of one type but when I was at Marchwood you also occasionally saw 2-4 warflats with some mixed assortments tagged onto a few vga’s. Usually assorted logistics vehicles rather than Scimitar or FV4xx’s but I guess it could be broken down vehicles heading to the workshops like Ludgershall too in some cases. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Gilbert Posted September 10, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 10, 2021 7 hours ago, Dungrange said: That looks really good, but how common is it for these wagons to be loaded up with different vehicle types? My perception (which could of course be wrong) is that these tend to carry a number of what look like identical vehicles. I completely agree but just wanted to model it that way. It will be in use as a single wagon in a layout mainly used as a shunting puzzle with examples of all sorts of rolling stock I remember from my more active spotting days in the 1980s. The Scimitar is pure nostalgia - I first built a version of the kit over 40 years ago... Chris 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 I think when whole regiments were moving it was fairly uniform . ( like redmire, wool, havirfirdwest ), but movements to ashcurch and ludgershall were much more varied due to be going for storage ot maintenance . flickr search for didcot - ludgershall or Eastleigh - ludgershall or didcot - ash church reveals all 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
exet1095 Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 20 hours ago, Dungrange said: That looks really good, but how common is it for these wagons to be loaded up with different vehicle types? My perception (which could of course be wrong) is that these tend to carry a number of what look like identical vehicles. When you move a Regiment by train, you move its vehicles. An armoured reconnaissance regiment equipped with CVR(T) will have sabre squadrons equipped with Scimitar (12), but also a squadron headquarters with Sultan (x3), a Samson recovery vehicle, a Samaritan ambulance abs possibly a couple of Spartan. They will also have wheeled vehicles, but these often move by road as they are not restricted by track mileage. Regimental Headquarters will have more Sultans, Spartans, Samsons etc… Current light cavalry regiments equipped with Jackal are also on the rails at the moment. The QDG has moved from Norfolk to Ludgershall recently. Jackal, Coyote and Panther all on the train. Having driven or commanded these types on long road moves, I can’t say how glad the boys are that they are being spared the drive from Swanton Morley. Paul 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BigDee Posted September 16, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 16, 2021 (edited) Finished the final one of these wonderful wagons tonight. Used a combination of pigments washes and the airbrush. Next job fitting the loads.... Edited September 16, 2021 by BigDee 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 On 10/09/2021 at 20:24, exet1095 said: When you move a Regiment by train, you move its vehicles. An armoured reconnaissance regiment equipped with CVR(T) will have sabre squadrons equipped with Scimitar (12), but also a squadron headquarters with Sultan (x3), a Samson recovery vehicle, a Samaritan ambulance abs possibly a couple of Spartan. They will also have wheeled vehicles, but these often move by road as they are not restricted by track mileage. Regimental Headquarters will have more Sultans, Spartans, Samsons etc… Current light cavalry regiments equipped with Jackal are also on the rails at the moment. The QDG has moved from Norfolk to Ludgershall recently. Jackal, Coyote and Panther all on the train. Having driven or commanded these types on long road moves, I can’t say how glad the boys are that they are being spared the drive from Swanton Morley. Paul Great gen . I’m surprised at this move as ludgershall looked like it was basically knocked down and turned into houses , or do they use that railhead just in preference to Warminster I wonder ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 These chocks are great . Just need some straps now 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted September 17, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 17, 2021 3 hours ago, rob D2 said: Great gen . I’m surprised at this move as ludgershall looked like it was basically knocked down and turned into houses , or do they use that railhead just in preference to Warminster I wonder ? I’ve only seen one train in and out at Warminster in the last ten years while Luggy trains are infrequent and seem mostly short but happen several times a year still. All the storage sheds, (south of the road), went at Ludgershall but the workshops and loading bays north of the road are all still there so I guess it’s the main loading point now. Warminster siding is frequently blocked by vehicles parked all over it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 5 hours ago, PaulRhB said: I’ve only seen one train in and out at Warminster in the last ten years while Luggy trains are infrequent and seem mostly short but happen several times a year still. All the storage sheds, (south of the road), went at Ludgershall but the workshops and loading bays north of the road are all still there so I guess it’s the main loading point now. Warminster siding is frequently blocked by vehicles parked all over it. Seems to be nothing than a railhead from the air. I think the remaining sheds are derelict ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
exet1095 Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 11 hours ago, rob D2 said: Great gen . I’m surprised at this move as ludgershall looked like it was basically knocked down and turned into houses , or do they use that railhead just in preference to Warminster I wonder ? Most (but not all) big exercises on the Plain use Westdown Camp and the eastern half of the training area for the initial concentrations. Ludgershall is nearer, and it is also close to Bulford and Tidworth, which is where the armour is based. Warminster has a different role. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Temeraire Posted September 18, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 18, 2021 On 17/09/2021 at 18:13, rob D2 said: Seems to be nothing than a railhead from the air. I think the remaining sheds are derelict ? all those sheds were the Medical stores and have been demolished for housing in last couple of years. It is just a railhead now. was told by the man that runs the operation there that all ‘super garrisons’ have to have a railhead and Tidworth is now one of them. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grampus Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Evening all. Just working through my stash of old JB models kits, looking for alternative loads for the warflats. I have a couple of 105mm light gun sets, but to my memory, I don't recall ever seeing these wheeled guns on trains - I spent a fair bit of time spotting at Salisbury from 1977 until I moved away in 1992 - nor have I ever seen them in pictures, as far as I can remember. My assumption is that they might have been moved about in ISO containers, (or perhaps I just wasn't there at the right time) - but does anybody know for sure, please? TVM. Best wishes, Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Grampus said: Evening all. Just working through my stash of old JB models kits, looking for alternative loads for the warflats. I have a couple of 105mm light gun sets, but to my memory, I don't recall ever seeing these wheeled guns on trains - I spent a fair bit of time spotting at Salisbury from 1977 until I moved away in 1992 - nor have I ever seen them in pictures, as far as I can remember. My assumption is that they might have been moved about in ISO containers, (or perhaps I just wasn't there at the right time) - but does anybody know for sure, please? TVM. Best wishes, Paul I’ve never seen a gun like that on a modern military train on all the pictures and articles I’ve seen. Edited January 30, 2022 by rob D2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grampus Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Thank you - at least, if nothing else, I can be fairly confident that I didn't miss them as they passed me by! I guess it's just as important to know what NOT to put on the warflats... :-) Best wishes, Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium andythenorth Posted April 3, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 3, 2022 Not sure whose photo this is, so linking rather than embedding, some Landrover 101 FCs on Warflats. https://664305.smushcdn.com/1944490/wp-content/uploads/sites/24/2019/11/Military-Manoeuvres-1024x686.jpg?lossy=1&strip=1&webp=1 Wasn't sure these would be in gauge, but eh, photo tells 1000 words. These are pretty similar to the current Oxford one, it's marked RAF Leuchars, but it's pretty generic. Oxford also have the flat green 110 Defender back in stock if anyone's been looking. Off-topic, but for Warwells, wonder if anyone will do a diecast Bedford MK in flat green / camo, for those of us too lazy to kit build 😛 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDG Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 Great photo. Those 101's were used as tractor units for 105mm L118 light guns, and it looks to me like the trail legs of such a gun behond that one. Very unusual though to see them on warflats. It was a while ago though. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iowcr3429 Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 100% light gun behind the 1 tonne land rover on the warflat. Can't tell if a L118 or L119 though 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billywhizz Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 Any idea what date that photo is from? Cheers. Bill. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iowcr3429 Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 On 24/07/2021 at 11:16, mevaman1 said: Thanks ever so much. I have worked out that my Warriors, some Land Rovers and the 101s would be on a 1990s train. I am now thinking of FV432s and Saxons for my 2000s train. Don't remember 101 LR being around from mid 90's. Could be earlier 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Banger Blue Posted August 19, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 19, 2022 18 hours ago, iowcr3429 said: Don't remember 101 LR being around from mid 90's. Could be earlier Certainly mid 90's onwards, it was predominantly Land Rover 90/110 and then the Pinzgauer 6x6 came on line. Oxford Diecast do a Land Rover FC, in white, in the guise of a 24 Field Ambulance vehicle as deployed to Bosnia so presuming it's an accurate depiction, the Balkans was most likely their last huzzah. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
exet1095 Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 21 hours ago, iowcr3429 said: Don't remember 101 LR being around from mid 90's. Could be earlier When we (266 Battery) got Light Gun vice 25pdr in 1992 the tractors were brand new RB44s, not FC Land Rovers. Later on, after I had transferred away, those less than ideal RB44s were replaced with Pinzgauers. The last time I saw a Forward Control Rover in service was c1993. Paul 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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