ess1uk Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 (edited) 2 EMT trains stranded by flooding and landslips in Corby https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-48620405 Edited June 14, 2019 by ess1uk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
APOLLO Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 A bit of water doesn't stop the trains over in Thaliand. Diesel Hydraulics you see - bring back the Class 52's !! Brit15 8 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ess1uk Posted June 14, 2019 Author Share Posted June 14, 2019 more here https://www.northantstelegraph.co.uk/news/people/corby-landslip-trains-disrupted-and-no-estimation-for-line-reopening-1-8963527 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgundy Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 3 hours ago, APOLLO said: A bit of water doesn't stop the trains over in Thaliand. Diesel Hydraulics you see - bring back the Class 52's !! Brit15 I love the way that everyone seems quite happy that there are rails somewhere under there and that none of the structure has been washed away ……………... Best wishes Eric 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim.snowdon Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 6 hours ago, burgundy said: I love the way that everyone seems quite happy that there are rails somewhere under there and that none of the structure has been washed away ……………... Best wishes Eric That depends on whether the flood water is flowing significantly or not, probably assisted by local knowledge. Jim 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ess1uk Posted June 14, 2019 Author Share Posted June 14, 2019 Anyone know if the line through Corby is open yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
great central Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 Reports say it should be open by 22.00 tonight. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ess1uk Posted June 15, 2019 Author Share Posted June 15, 2019 Reported 40 tonnes of debris cleared https://www.northantstelegraph.co.uk/news/traffic-and-travel/corby-landslip-round-the-clock-effort-sees-trains-running-again-1-8964884 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caradoc Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 On 14/06/2019 at 12:44, burgundy said: I love the way that everyone seems quite happy that there are rails somewhere under there and that none of the structure has been washed away ……………... Best wishes Eric Indeed. Glanrhyd Bridge, October 1987 ? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim.snowdon Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 Except that there is a difference between circumstances where there is a strong flow across or under the railway, and a widespread area where the track is simply submerged and there are no strong flows, which is why local knowledge enters into the decision making process. (Unless you simplify the process so much that it has no room for any assessment of the situation.) Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted June 18, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 18, 2019 (edited) Glanrhyd was a slightly different situation; the train had not been running over flooded track but under normal conditions (just a rough morning) when it encountered a river bridge that had washed partly away and the driver couldn't stop in time having not seen it in the dark. The tragic loss of life occurred when passengers re-entered the leading coach, which had already been evacuated by the train crew, to retrieve luggage. I have seen, but can't recall where, a photo of a 56xx running slowly through flood water up to running plate level at Mountain Ash GW, in 1963 I think. The driver could have had no idea what he was running on, if it was there, or if it was obstructed, and the firebed must have been in the water, and I imagine the passengers had to put their feet on the seats to keep them dry! Edited June 18, 2019 by The Johnster Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted June 18, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 18, 2019 If you Google "Nottingham railway flood 1947" you will find a number of images of trains running through floodwater. As far as I can tell most of the images are from commercial sites and are therefore for sale, hence I am not linking to them. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caradoc Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 On 16/06/2019 at 09:36, jim.snowdon said: Except that there is a difference between circumstances where there is a strong flow across or under the railway, and a widespread area where the track is simply submerged and there are no strong flows, which is why local knowledge enters into the decision making process. (Unless you simplify the process so much that it has no room for any assessment of the situation.) Jim Absolutely Jim, and when Network Rail's track is flooded one of the determining factors regarding train running is whether water is flowing, however given its nature water very often does flow ! As you say local knowledge is therefore vital, but until staff are on site and have assessed the situation no-one can know for sure what state the infrastructure is in. 3 hours ago, The Johnster said: Glanrhyd was a slightly different situation; the train had not been running over flooded track but under normal conditions (just a rough morning) when it encountered a river bridge that had washed partly away and the driver couldn't stop in time having not seen it in the dark. The tragic loss of life occurred when passengers re-entered the leading coach, which had already been evacuated by the train crew, to retrieve luggage. True Johnster, but I was highlighting the very real dangers that exist with water affecting the railway, whether that is high or fast flowing water at a bridge, or simply flooding of the track. And there are other concerns, for example an increased risk of landslips during extreme rain, so much so that after incidents in Scotland an extremely onerous 'Embankments and Cuttings' procedure was introduced to minimise the danger. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 Wasn't one of the victims at Glanrhyd a bridge inspector, sent specifically to check on the state of the bridges? I worked on the River Sawdde, which joins the Tywi just south of Llangadog; I've watched it rise five feet or more in an hour. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted June 18, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 18, 2019 The Sawdde comes off the Black Mountain, which is basically a topographical rain making machine; I can easily believe this rate of rise. 54 minutes ago, caradoc said: Absolutely Jim, and when Network Rail's track is flooded one of the determining factors regarding train running is whether water is flowing, however given its nature water very often does flow ! As you say local knowledge is therefore vital, but until staff are on site and have assessed the situation no-one can know for sure what state the infrastructure is in. True Johnster, but I was highlighting the very real dangers that exist with water affecting the railway, whether that is high or fast flowing water at a bridge, or simply flooding of the track. And there are other concerns, for example an increased risk of landslips during extreme rain, so much so that after incidents in Scotland an extremely onerous 'Embankments and Cuttings' procedure was introduced to minimise the danger. Fair enough, caradoc. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ess1uk Posted June 19, 2019 Author Share Posted June 19, 2019 landslips explained https://www.networkrail.co.uk/landslips-explained-2/ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ess1uk Posted June 16, 2020 Author Share Posted June 16, 2020 Taken RAIB a year to work out that flood water caused the landslide at Corby Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Reorte Posted June 16, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 16, 2020 On 14/06/2019 at 09:25, APOLLO said: A bit of water doesn't stop the trains over in Thaliand. Diesel Hydraulics you see - bring back the Class 52's !! Certainly got the hydraulic bit. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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