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For those in the know- this is the new bridge that carried the line from Green Lane into Cammell Laird shipbuilders. If you follow the curve, it looks like it goes into 2 tunnels- any ideas?

Dean

 

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Do you know when that photo was taken?

It certainly looks that way but looking at the old maps on the NLS website, it looks like the track just finishes right at the ‘wall’ (Abbey St)

 

https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=17.64599800082737&lat=53.3878&lon=-3.0151&layers=168&b=1

 

There doesn’t appear to be any continuation under the houses. Where the tracks go off to Woodside and Monks Ferry you will notice the tunnels are marked with dotted lines of which there don’t appear to be any with this line/siding in question.

 

 

Great picture btw, good view of Mollington St shed at the bottom left.

 

 

 

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The bulk of Cammell Laird's yard is to the south of this yard (which we might loosely call Abbey Street yard for convenience). The sidings to the right were within CL's boundary and any trains working into the yard had to reverse in these.

 

The 1955 1:2500 survay shows the yards in much greater detail - https://www.old-maps.co.uk/#/Map/332496/387984/12/100954

 

Jim

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Me neither Dave!

 

The tunnel(s) have been discussed on another website - here:

 

https://www.wikiwirral.co.uk/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/929774/re-old-birkenhead-railways.html#Post929774

 

Must be a member to view the pictures though.

I think this photo shows what is being talked about (the A41 / New Chester Road is on the left):

 

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This snippet from that webpage might be useful (see 3d - near the bottom of the article):

 

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Looks like the forum concludes it was a second tunnel which was never completed and was abandoned early on.

 

Being inside Lairds I never saw it - or knew of it. I used to walk along the A41 and under the (completely rebuilt) bridge when travelling to/from the Merseyside Model Railway Society in the late 1970s.

 

Side by side maps

 

https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=18&lat=53.3892&lon=-3.0131&layers=168&right=BingHyb

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