Baldwin30762 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Hi all I have been thinking for sometime about building an industrial EM Gauge layout, I know of a few RTR OO gauge industrials, but, I was wondering if anyone knew anyone who produce OO scale Industrial Loco kits, I have seen mentioned Judith Edge locos loco’s but it appears they are mostly diesels locos, where as I am after Industrial steam locos. I think there was someone around a few years ago who made brass kits but I think they went to Australia and are no longer producing them in 4mm scale. As a side I got into Industrials after a visit a number of years ago to the Yorkshire Dales Railway as it was then, I think they call themselves the Embassy and Bolton Abby Railway now. Thanks in advance for any help Regards Colin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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cctransuk Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, Baldwin30762 said: Hi all I have been thinking for sometime about building an industrial EM Gauge layout, I know of a few RTR OO gauge industrials, but, I was wondering if anyone knew anyone who produce OO scale Industrial Loco kits, I have seen mentioned Judith Edge locos loco’s but it appears they are mostly diesels locos, where as I am after Industrial steam locos. I think there was someone around a few years ago who made brass kits but I think they went to Australia and are no longer producing them in 4mm scale. As a side I got into Industrials after a visit a number of years ago to the Yorkshire Dales Railway as it was then, I think they call themselves the Embassy and Bolton Abby Railway now. Thanks in advance for any help Regards Colin Yes - you're right - Impetus / Kalgarin. Regards, John Isherwood. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 RT Models: https://www.rtmodels.co.uk/rt_models_022.htm Richard 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Judith Edge have a few steam locomotives. Most notably the Hunslet 15 and 16 inch 0-6-0STs which were the mainstay of industrial railways from the 1920s onward. http://www.ukmodelshops.co.uk/catalogue/judithedge Also CSP. http://cspmodels.com/abante/index.php?rt=product/manufacturer&manufacturer_id=21 Jason 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted June 20, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 20, 2019 20 minutes ago, Baldwin30762 said: I have seen mentioned Judith Edge locos loco’s but it appears they are mostly diesels locos, where as I am after Industrial steam locos. They do some steam industrial locos as well Consett Class A 0-6-0 PT, Hunslet 15", Hunslet 16". They are good kits.. of course High Level and RT Models also do steam industrial kits. They also are good kits. The Impetus kits are hard to find but are duplicated by more modern kits from the three concerns identified above. Baz 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Holliday Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 CSP Models do a vast range of steam industrial locos, nearly thirty types to be seen on this page - http://cspmodels.com/abante/index.php?rt=product/category&path=65 Mercian Models, having concentrated on 7mm, have a few of their range in 4mm available, if their website is up to date. http://www.modelrailways.tv/4mm-scale-page1.html 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Bucoops Posted June 21, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 21, 2019 Mercian do/did some - they have cut production of 4mm but still have some in stock by the looks of things - http://www.modelrailways.tv/4mm-scale-page1.html I've not built any but do have a teddy bear to build at some point in the distant future. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted June 21, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 21, 2019 All the above are excellent kits and I have examples of some of them. Don't forget, however, especially perhaps if you are new to kit building (apologies if you are not), that many ex-main line locos got sold out of service to industry and to some light railways. Some ex-GW pannier tanks were sold to the NCB, mostly in South Wales and also to London Transport. There was at least one 'Jinty' in NCB service in the Midlands and a couple of (still owned by BR) ex-Midland Railway 1F 0-6-0Ts working for Staveley Iron Works. There were also a small number of ex-L&Y 'Pugs' sold to industry. So if you didn't want to use one of the Hornby or Hattons industrials, you could re-livery one of the ex-main line company locos mentioned above, all of which are or were available RTR. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rope runner Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 (edited) Hi Colin, Here's my 2 cents on the subject: I would start with a High Level kit - everything goes together as it should and notably an excellent gearbox is included. The castings require very little in the way of cleaning up. Both the 0-4-0 and 0-6-0 HL/RSH kits I have built without any modification or hassle, they're not the smallest either - so ideal for a beginner. Full provision is made for EM/P4 at all stages. The RT models Sentinel/Thomas Hill kits are excellent too and include a gearbox/motor. After that I would move on to CSP and Judith Edge kits, which are both well designed but in my experience require a little more craftsmanship and a working knowledge of kit construction. Some castings require cleaning up to give a smooth fit (CSP) and chassis construction is not as straightforward as High Level (JE) in my opinion. The choice of gearbox is left open to the builder and in this small scale/prototype can be a bit of a head-scratcher at times. CSP require modification to the chassis if building to EM - Judith Edge cater for this from the outset. The RT models Manning Wardle is more akin to a CSP kit than their sentinel offerings. Mercian and early Impetus kits, well they're best tackled after you have cut your teeth on a few of the aforementioned as some parts require some surgery/modification and may not fit correctly etc. Best of luck - please do post progress to the Industrial locomotives and railways section of the forum where you'll find plenty of people willing to assist with advice and hopefully some inspiration from fellow modelers. Paul A. Edited June 22, 2019 by 1whitemoor 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted June 21, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 21, 2019 For industrial steam locos we have Hunslet 0-6-0STs in three sizes, 14", 15" and 16" and as Barry says the Consett A class long boiler 0-6-0PT. Judith and Michael Edge 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldwin30762 Posted June 21, 2019 Author Share Posted June 21, 2019 Thank you guys, lots to think about Colin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 15 minutes ago, Baldwin30762 said: Thank you guys, lots to think about Colin And to buy! Richard 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldwin30762 Posted June 23, 2019 Author Share Posted June 23, 2019 (edited) One Loco I am after is a model of a Port of London Docks Railway as opposed to the NLR Dock tank 0-6-0T I am not sure who made them in the first place ( Hunslets?) but I am sure the old Yorkshire Dale Railway had one in there collection year ago, does this ring a bell with anyone? Colin Edited June 23, 2019 by Baldwin30762 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted June 24, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 24, 2019 Hudswell Clarke OC 0-6-0Ts, this in our to do list at some time - once I've either found some drawings or measured one (probably the one at Embsay as it's nearest). 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doilum Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 Pete Stamper did the 7mm model marketed by Agenoria. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefly9 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 On 23/06/2019 at 23:21, Baldwin30762 said: One Loco I am after is a model of a Port of London Docks Railway as opposed to the NLR Dock tank 0-6-0T I am not sure who made them in the first place ( Hunslets?) but I am sure the old Yorkshire Dale Railway had one in there collection year ago, does this ring a bell with anyone? Colin Yorkshire engine co? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall5 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Wasn't it a Hudswell? Ray. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jukebox Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 (edited) . Edited August 31, 2019 by jukebox unwarranted thread resurrection - apologies Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doilum Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 On 30/08/2019 at 22:47, Marshall5 said: Wasn't it a Hudswell? Ray. Sounds like the OC Hudswell Clarke. Agenoria did a couple of variants including the 1950s NCB loco. Designed by Pete Stamper, they go together well. The range is now with Ragstone models. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doilum Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 4 hours ago, doilum said: Sounds like the OC Hudswell Clarke. Agenoria did a couple of variants including the 1950s NCB loco. Designed by Pete Stamper, they go together well. The range is now with Ragstone models. Sorry: post Telford brain fade. I missed the "4" in the original title. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 (edited) Noticed in the latest Model Rail Hardy's Hobbies are doing a 3d resin body kit for a Huswell Clarke like 0-6-0T . Looking at their web page https://hardyshobbies.co.uk/product-category/locomotive-body-kits/ their are two versions, long and short tanks and are supplied complete with crew, handrail knobs and wire, and smokebox door dart. Fits the Electrotren/Jouef outside cylinder 0-6-0 chassis which those using DCC might like to note has a 6 pin socket sensibly sited unlike Hornbys Peckett B2 etc. Edited September 12, 2019 by Butler Henderson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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