RMweb Premium MJI Posted November 30, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 30, 2019 2 hours ago, SVRlad said: Yes, won’t be until next September though: http://redditch-mrc.com/Redditch Show - Introduction.htm Found your site, looks interesting. Oh and that link does Your browser doesn't seem to support Javascript! On two browsers 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted November 30, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 30, 2019 Another crop of layout pictures Deinsdorf-Düsselbach: 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, MJI said: Found your site, looks interesting. Oh and that link does Your browser doesn't seem to support Javascript! On two browsers I'm using Safari and had no problems with the website so it must be a browser issue. If you end up moving to Redditch, drop us a line and you should be able to pop by one evening to see what we're about. 'Reddibus' is the club's account on here. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andymsa Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 13 minutes ago, melmerby said: Another crop of layout pictures Deinsdorf-Düsselbach: In the second photo can you or anyone identify the make of the turntable, I did ask the operators of the layout but they did not know. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted December 1, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 1, 2019 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Andymsa said: In the second photo can you or anyone identify the make of the turntable, I did ask the operators of the layout but they did not know. Roco 42615 or the Fleischmann 6152 look similar all the others are too big or have the prominent circle in the middle of the pit. Edited December 1, 2019 by PaulRhB 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted December 1, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 1, 2019 (edited) I never worry about invites to shows, you can't when you model those unpopular diesel depots. Southbridge only done one show, and that was my then local club's. It never worked very well and was rebuilt as Pig Lane. Both Pig Lane and Hanging Hill done quite a few shows between them ranging from local church fund raisers to Ally Pally. Both stopped getting invites after they appeared in the model press, normally a layout gets more invites after being in a magazine, oh hum. Pig Lane (Western Region) has done five, three as last minute replacements (one of those was received on the Thursday for that Saturday), one was a year later than planned, a house move got in the way and the other was Ally Pally this year. I didn't pick up one invite there, oh hum. Never exhibited one of my layouts at Warley, never mind. Edited December 1, 2019 by Clive Mortimore 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobafan Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 About 90 minutes of best entertainment: https://www.pilentum.de/warley-national-model-railway-exhibition-2019.htm Also available: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjPL2cz5n-0 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andymsa Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, PaulRhB said: Roco 42615 or the Fleischmann 6152 look similar all the others are too big or have the prominent circle in the middle of the pit. No it's not either of these as I have the ones you mention. It was significantly smaller as well. Edited December 1, 2019 by Andymsa 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobby Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 14 hours ago, TEAMYAKIMA said: I genuinely don't want to hijack this thread and make it all about my personal layout but I can make a few general points with regards giving the visitor info about the prototype and what the layout is about 1, We made info boards to cover both fiddle yard 'ends'. There was a view that the first versions (shown at Bristol 2018) were too long and wordy - nobody stood and read it all ... So I made re-did them with fewer words and bigger print size to make things easier to read. I also invested heavily to make the displays more dramatic, more dynamic …. We still found that relatively very few people stood and read the boards On a small layout a board like that will work simply because it's "in your face" when you look at the layout so human nature as it is we will read it, especially if it's like mine and just above the backscene in line of sight! On a large layout, though, unless you happen to be directly opposite it you won't be able to read it. If youwant to stay with the photos/text then I'd suggest more photos spread out down the layout front in A4 size and three "text" A4 sized boards spread out between them but with less text and a bigger font. Unlike my TTe layout it's obvious what scale it is so you just need the basics, where, when and what. And don't forget to put "Any questions please ask!" on it!! Another thing that works for large layouts is to have someone out front to talk to people, if you have someone out there that knows about the subject (you?!!) then you'll find people will stay longer which then attracts others... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted December 1, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 1, 2019 20 minutes ago, Hobby said: Another thing that works for large layouts is to have someone out front to talk to people, if you have someone out there that knows about the subject (you?!!) then you'll find people will stay longer which then attracts others... Yes. Good Idea. Also be prememptive, if anyone is looking puzzled, step in and offer some information (It seems that you probably already do) A few layouts have operators that are totally detached from the public and just want to operate the layout. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted December 1, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 1, 2019 9 hours ago, SVRlad said: 'Reddibus' is the club's account on here. Anything to do with the "www.Reddibus.com" site? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Good pics, Redkiterail. Thanks. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted December 1, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 1, 2019 10 hours ago, MJI said: Found your site, looks interesting. Oh and that link does Your browser doesn't seem to support Javascript! On two browsers Works fine on W10 & Firefox 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobby Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 43 minutes ago, melmerby said: Quite a few layouts have operators that are totally detached from the public and just want to operate the layout. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEAMYAKIMA Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 4 hours ago, Hobby said: On a small layout a board like that will work simply because it's "in your face" when you look at the layout so human nature as it is we will read it, especially if it's like mine and just above the backscene in line of sight! On a large layout, though, unless you happen to be directly opposite it you won't be able to read it. If youwant to stay with the photos/text then I'd suggest more photos spread out down the layout front in A4 size and three "text" A4 sized boards spread out between them but with less text and a bigger font. Unlike my TTe layout it's obvious what scale it is so you just need the basics, where, when and what. And don't forget to put "Any questions please ask!" on it!! Another thing that works for large layouts is to have someone out front to talk to people, if you have someone out there that knows about the subject (you?!!) then you'll find people will stay longer which then attracts others... All points taken on board and up for consideration, but I think I should cease making posts on this particular thread because this thread is about the Warley exhibition in general and not my layout in particular. I have already started making changes and I will be continuing these posts and discussions on my own RMweb layout thread here …. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 @TEAMYAKIMA at least your diversion wasn't about crowds, rucksacks, lack of bargains, the weather, car parking or smells. To me it read "how do I build on my successful exhibit at Warley", nothing wrong in asking that on this thread. 1 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
long island jack Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Modelling overseas railway/railroads can be a thankless task at some exhibition, I've modelled and exhibited American HO for many years, in the early years I had hardly anyone look(other than families) at the layout, just muttering as they went passed JAAL, it use to bother me, but not now. But slowly people started to stop and look and ask questions and would even come back for another look, if your planning to alter you layout so more people will take notice, save your time, the people that wanted to see it, have done, and any alteration won't attract those stereotypes. You've done will to get an invite to Warley, having never been there with either of my USA layouts, just enjoy whatever invites you get and never mind about the public opinion, it's there loss. Ray 4 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsforever Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Cant understand people ignoring a layout just because its not a UK the operators owners have worked hard to produce it and deserve a thank you for showing it to us all. 9 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobby Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 I don't take that view, though. Any decent general exhibition will have a variety of layouts to suit most needs. Whilst i may take a quick glance there are certain types of layouts I will normally by-pass such as Modern Image TMDs and American shunting layouts. Neither do anything for me. OK I may miss out on the odd gem but such is life, I'd rather spend my time looking at something that interests me. Is that wrong? I don't know, it's just what i do. Life's too short! 1 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSG Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 People are entitled to their own preferences, and you can't really criticise them for that. And particularly at large shows like Warley, the sheer number of layouts on display means that it does make sense to prioritise the ones that float your particular boat. Where it becomes an issue isn't people saying "There are layouts here that I don't find interesting, so I'm going to spend more time looking at the ones I do", as when it turns into "There are layouts here that I don't find interesting, so therefore they shouldn't be there". Because preferences work both ways - one person's Yet Another Cliched GWR BLT is someone else's exquisitely modelled slice of West Country nostalgia, and someone's uninspiring foreign stuff is another person's intriguingly exotic rarity. And exhibition organisers have to cater to both sides of that divide. With the exception of specialist shows, the aim of any exhibition is to have a varied selection of layouts of different scales, genres, eras, locations and standards, so that every visitor will find at least something that inspires them. If all the layouts were from the same category, it might be absolute heaven for a small number of visitors but it would be incredibly boring for most of them. 2 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted December 1, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 1, 2019 There are layouts I will walk past at exhibitions but it is the standard of modelling that captures my eye not the prototype it portrays. I will even dwell at a L&NER/Eastern Region layout if it ticks the boxes. Rob. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 7 minutes ago, NHY 581 said: I will even dwell at a L&NER/Eastern Region layout if it ticks the boxes. Caught by the Gresleys 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted December 1, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 1, 2019 9 minutes ago, woodenhead said: Caught by the Gresleys Release only costs a Peppercorn. 2 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted December 1, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 1, 2019 We have been at Warley in the past with our USA outline layouts and recall one time in the hotel lobby when a group of layout operators were commenting that there were too many American layouts. They obviously didn't recognise us but when with a layout at a show let alone the size of Warley we hardly get chance to look at any layouts so I don't get how they can say that there are too many. We had plenty of interest with our foreign outline layouts as we did last year with our Czech layout, some commented that they came to Warley because of our layout, one chap being from Austria. I am sure they also saw plenty of other layouts. There are plenty of layouts that I will only glance at as there just isn't the time to view all of them but they are no less deserving to be there. This year that was most of the layouts but hopefully we will get chance at future smaller shows. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted December 1, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 1, 2019 There have been many occasions I’ve gone to a show to see one or two layouts and been happy with the entrance fee for that, finding others is a great bonus and the couple I really enjoyed this year weren’t even on my radar before the show So I enjoy Warley from both sides of the barrier and with work taking up ⅔ of my weekends at least if I take a day off to go as a punter I know I’m going to find something making it worth it. With the many shows I’ve done with mine and friends layouts it ranks up there with the most pleasant to do even with the long days. That said in the last nearly 30 yrs of exhibiting with layouts there’s only been one show that was a graft because of the organiser, the other 99% has been great fun 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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