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2 hours ago, ChrisMitchell said:

Hi 

 

Has anyone converted their wagons to P4 yet. It seems the axles are not 26mm in length, which makes things more difficult, although the website indicates the models have 26mm axles over pinpoints. This seems to be a recurring theme, as I have other wagons from Accurascale, which also did not have 26mm axles as specified.

 

regards, Chris

 

I've converted all of mine to P4 with Gibson wheels with 26mm axles.

 

The axle length isn't the problem, it is the 'bosses' round the holes on the inside of the bogie sides.  I just thinned them down with a file and dropped the new wheels in and they all run perfectly.

 

HTH

John

 

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On 07/04/2021 at 20:37, Accurascale Fran said:


Hi @Dieselbob,

 

Many thanks for bringing this to my attention. I do know that our project manager over these worked to prototype images. Although he is no longer with the company I will look through the files used and see what we come back with.

 

****EDIT

 

Okay, I have gone through the research data used for the artwork for these wagons and you are indeed correct. Fair cop, it seems we dropped the ball and hold our hands up on this one. We're very sorry about that and we do pride ourselves on getting things right, but it seems we are not infallible. We have learned a lesson with this and will put in place measures to ensure that this will not happen again (and we are confident that it wont)

 

Cheers!

 

Fran


Any chance that people who bought these could be sent decals to correct their wagons either free or for cost price? 

 

 

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On 09/04/2021 at 14:46, Railfreight1998 said:

4020 JNA Milton Range, 29/07/20

(Flickr link - not mine)

 

The JNAs have been produced from the former VTG covered JSAs that didn't become the open carriers, sometime in 2020 I believe. I'm not sure if there will be any more, as that's probably most of the original chassis used up now.

 

 

They would be a doddle to convert using the accurascale chasis and a load of Plasticard, a bit costly mind. or convert a Lima one if you can get hold of the Axlemotion Bogies, I remember many years ago maybe 25 years,  upgrading a Lima PTA and going one Sunday afternoon to, I Think, Chris Leigh's Home which was not far from where i live and we went to his workshop and he moulded me a pair of BS Axlemotion bogies in White Metal I wonder if he still makes them.

I realised pretty soon that making a rake of them would probably see me off, I finished the one and lost interest (never painted it) I got fed up looking at it and eventually sold it on Ebay last year. I have a lot of time on my hands now so those JNA's look inviting.

Bachmann make a Bogie they call Y25 Type, well they don't look like any Y25 I have ever seen. they look a little like Axlemotions they are certainly nothing like Cambrians Y25 Bogies. I would put more faith in Cambrian than Bachmann I think I'll order some and have a closer look.

Bob

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50 minutes ago, zoomer1979 said:

Managed to get back to the loft layout this weekend, so finally got to use my Xmas presents and recreated one of the iconic triple headers.

 

So that's why they're out of stock.  Fabulous

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On 02/05/2021 at 14:27, Ouroborus said:

So that's why they're out of stock.  Fabulous

Plenty about if you shop around at places other than A/S - and at discount prices to boot

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31 minutes ago, Graham108 said:

Plenty about if you shop around at places other than A/S - and at discount prices to boot

 

We actively discourage discounting to protect smaller model shops from the bigger guys who can offer bigger discounts, and so far its been very successful in keeping bigger outfits to RRP. It's really disappointing to hear and against our wishes that smaller places discount, as ultimately it will be self harming them in the long run. We do regularly review our trade partners so many thanks for the heads up on this. 

 

Cheers!

 

Fran

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3 hours ago, Accurascale Fran said:

 

We actively discourage discounting to protect smaller model shops from the bigger guys who can offer bigger discounts, and so far its been very successful in keeping bigger outfits to RRP. It's really disappointing to hear and against our wishes that smaller places discount, as ultimately it will be self harming them in the long run. We do regularly review our trade partners so many thanks for the heads up on this. 

 

Cheers!

 

Fran

Your pricing is good value and the items are well thought out and made,as i have said in the past its more of a team effort with your customer base,the major companys seem driven by pure money,its more about shifting as many boxes,they seem to have little interest with contact or what the customer thinks.

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29 minutes ago, Dieselbob said:

 

You posted this on 26/6/19

I don't know about you but I would call that a 10% discount, does that mean that you are undercutting the agents you are supplying no wonder they are discounting.

You should practice what you preach.


Hi Bob,

 

This discount (and any bundle deals we offer) are fully available for traders to implement too, and many do. As I said, it’s about creating a level playing field and protecting our smaller retailers from being undercut by bigger ones, something several of our retailers pleaded with us to do when we opened up to trade.


in essence, practicing what we preach. 

 

cheers!

 

Fran

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15 hours ago, Accurascale Fran said:

 

We actively discourage discounting to protect smaller model shops from the bigger guys who can offer bigger discounts, and so far its been very successful in keeping bigger outfits to RRP. It's really disappointing to hear and against our wishes that smaller places discount, as ultimately it will be self harming them in the long run. We do regularly review our trade partners so many thanks for the heads up on this. 

 

Cheers!

 

Fran

There's one place offering 15% (I've just bought 2 packs of PTA's from them but they appear to have lots of your products on sale), and another offering around 25% but they don't have any of the items in stock!

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1 hour ago, Graham108 said:

There's one place offering 15% (I've just bought 2 packs of PTA's from them but they appear to have lots of your products on sale), and another offering around 25% but they don't have any of the items in stock!

My apples are 10p a pound when I don't have any!

 

Actually, just received a pack of PTAs and they are fantastic and the packaging truly impressive!  Really looking forward to seeing the Deltic, although my bank balance isn't :-(

 

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To be fair, i didn't find too many places offering discounts when i was looking for some British Steel inners, though there were one or two.  Most places were out of stock. 

 

I don't have a dog in the fight, but given the uncertain times we've been through, I'd be wary about making too many assumptions on why *some* retailers are doing what they're doing.  If you have bills to pay and stock sitting there, it must be hard to resist the temptation to cash in your chips.

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7 hours ago, Midnight-Freight said:

I'm not too clued up on these but I like the look of the VTG ones. I'm also not a total stickler for realism but how out of place would these be on a modern image, virtual quarry layout?

The VTG wagons were used in sea dredged aggregate and sand traffic in the south east area though they've all been withdrawn now. However, some of the JSAs have been rebuilt with new box bodies last year to replace them, so it isn't too unlikely that they could have remained in service or been used on other flows.

 

7U71 66162 Cliffe Brett Marine - Stewarts Lane passes paddock wood

(Flickr link - not mine)

 

Here's some (including some still in yeoman livery) still going in 2016.

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Don't tempt me Fran!

 

Having a difficult Monday here... everything seems like a challenge in the world of low earth orbit satellite internet at the moment.

 

The grass must be greener at Accurascale, right? Just by virtue of being located in the emerald isle for a start!

 

Guy

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6 hours ago, lyneux said:

Now or never on that job promotion at Accurascale Ed? :D

 

There - corrected it for you.....

 

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On 12/04/2021 at 22:56, Dieselbob said:

 

They would be a doddle to convert using the accurascale chasis and a load of Plasticard, a bit costly mind. or convert a Lima one if you can get hold of the Axlemotion Bogies, I remember many years ago maybe 25 years,  upgrading a Lima PTA and going one Sunday afternoon to, I Think, Chris Leigh's Home which was not far from where i live and we went to his workshop and he moulded me a pair of BS Axlemotion bogies in White Metal I wonder if he still makes them.

I realised pretty soon that making a rake of them would probably see me off, I finished the one and lost interest (never painted it) I got fed up looking at it and eventually sold it on Ebay last year. I have a lot of time on my hands now so those JNA's look inviting.

Bachmann make a Bogie they call Y25 Type, well they don't look like any Y25 I have ever seen. they look a little like Axlemotions they are certainly nothing like Cambrians Y25 Bogies. I would put more faith in Cambrian than Bachmann I think I'll order some and have a closer look.

Bob

Sorry, I stopped making my cast parts about 15 years ago when my casting machine 'died'. It wasn't worth the cost of replacing it and I'd become tired of spending hot summer days sweltering in a shed labouring over a metal melting pot! (CJL)

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2 hours ago, dibber25 said:

Sorry, I stopped making my cast parts about 15 years ago when my casting machine 'died'. It wasn't worth the cost of replacing it and I'd become tired of spending hot summer days sweltering in a shed labouring over a metal melting pot! (CJL)

 

I have a single set of Chris', but many sets of unbuilt Appleby axle motion bogie if anyone wants to make me an offer!

 

Jon

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22 minutes ago, jonhall said:

 

I have a single set of Chris', but many sets of unbuilt Appleby axle motion bogie if anyone wants to make me an offer!

 

Jon

Jon, I am going to have a look at my rake of heavily converted Lima ones later and see how many bogies I am short by.  will drop you a message to discuss.  

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On 12/04/2021 at 22:56, Dieselbob said:

 

They would be a doddle to convert using the accurascale chasis and a load of Plasticard, a bit costly mind. or convert a Lima one if you can get hold of the Axlemotion Bogies, I remember many years ago maybe 25 years,  upgrading a Lima PTA and going one Sunday afternoon to, I Think, Chris Leigh's Home which was not far from where i live and we went to his workshop and he moulded me a pair of BS Axlemotion bogies in White Metal I wonder if he still makes them.

I realised pretty soon that making a rake of them would probably see me off, I finished the one and lost interest (never painted it) I got fed up looking at it and eventually sold it on Ebay last year. I have a lot of time on my hands now so those JNA's look inviting.

Bachmann make a Bogie they call Y25 Type, well they don't look like any Y25 I have ever seen. they look a little like Axlemotions they are certainly nothing like Cambrians Y25 Bogies. I would put more faith in Cambrian than Bachmann I think I'll order some and have a closer look.

Bob

That Bachmann 'Y25' is in fact either a Y31 or Y33, originally designed for higher speeds on intermodal flows. Bachmann use a Y25C on their BDA, and possibly elsewhere, but don't list it as a separate part. You could always contact their spares department on the offchance.

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