VXDH92 Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 13 hours ago, amwells said: Very useful column. I see that some people have written PayPal, or PayPal so no refund option. I paid via PayPal from my Barclaycard and Barclaycard refunded. Don’t give up, it’s worth asking your card provider even if PayPal themselves are not interested. I was also successful with Halifax via Paypal, but I don't think people will be successful if they paid with Paypal using an existing Paypal balance. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Colin_McLeod Posted July 9, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 9, 2019 5 hours ago, Mike Harvey said: I have just changed back lines 16 to 46 to the previous figures. These were all changed at 15.00hrs today to £30, and possibly not by accident. 4 hours ago, Shiney Sheff said: Looks like someone might be trying to stop the truth from coming out That is a risk which is why every creditor should register with the liquidators. Is everybody's input still on the spreadsheet? If the amount can be changed to £30 then lines can be deleted. However the spreadsheet saves every edit so anyone trying to sabotage it is wasting their time. There is only a small number of creditors on the spreadsheet compared to the numbers in the hundreds that we believe were required for each project. Perhaps not everyone wants to or knows about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damo666 Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Colin_McLeod said: Is everybody's input still on the spreadsheet? If the amount can be changed to £30 then lines can be deleted. However the spreadsheet saves every edit so anyone trying to sabotage it is wasting their time. Mine is still there. I think I was about the 5th person to add my meagre details. Has someone just reordered one of the columns? Either by amount; or by 00 Class 92, then N King, then 00 APT. Edited July 9, 2019 by Damo666 Typo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium njee20 Posted July 10, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 10, 2019 Yep, at 9:01 on Monday night someone sorted by amount paid! It's all in the log, so don't worry about deletions etc. I can't imagine the overwriting of data was malicious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djgriff Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 paid £67.50 for king deposit but i have lost my receit email Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Colin_McLeod Posted July 10, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 10, 2019 1 hour ago, djgriff said: paid £67.50 for king deposit but i have lost my receit email Try your bank statements. Worth a try. I suggest you register as a creditor anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djgriff Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 thanks for tips will give them a try. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfsup Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 Added mine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom3624 Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 Is this data just 'a fraction' of what had actually been 'ordered'? I don't believe 7.5k is anywhere near a justifiable amount to start tooling up for production ... and that's covering several different models. Al. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium njee20 Posted July 11, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 11, 2019 Yes, definitely. It's one thread, on one forum, and the people who want to share their data, so it is inherently a small proportion of the reality. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RP82 Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 Hi added my £90 for three OO class 92s. I payed by debit card via PayPal and i am unsure how to go about trying to clam. Any tips guys? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AY Mod Posted July 13, 2019 Moderators Share Posted July 13, 2019 31 minutes ago, RP82 said: Hi added my £90 for three OO class 92s. I payed by debit card via PayPal and i am unsure how to go about trying to clam. Any tips guys? Read the latter pages of this https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/145059-crowdfunding-reclaim-via-credit-card/ which discusses debit card chargebacks. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RP82 Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 Thanks AY MOD. So unless I'm been completely thick I need a letter from the liquidators. So I have just fired off an e-mail to them then take that to my bank with my PayPal receipts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brittannia Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 You will need to have the dates when you paid the deposits to DJModels,, also make sure you are adamant that you speak to somebody at the "Bank" understands the chargeback system also do mot forget to tell them that the claim starts from the Liquidation date .The letter from the Liquidators is 20 pages long via email.. Good Luck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brittannia Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 Forgot to say the Bank officials in the main, do not understand the length of time it takes for Model Railway Manufacturers to produce a model,so you may have to "educate " them in ins and outs of ordering manufacture and possession of a model. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Colin_McLeod Posted July 17, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 17, 2019 Spreadsheet seems to have settled at £8.25k. This is a lot less than my gut feeling would have suggested. What's everyone's opinion? Is it worth sending this to the liquidators or could it be counter productive given the surprisingly low total? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Legend Posted July 17, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 17, 2019 17 minutes ago, Colin_McLeod said: Spreadsheet seems to have settled at £8.25k. This is a lot less than my gut feeling would have suggested. What's everyone's opinion? Is it worth sending this to the liquidators or could it be counter productive given the surprisingly low total? Its still £8.25 k Colin , although like you I’m surprised at the low total . But I’d send it to the liquidators , after all it should rank with His (DJ) claim as a creditor as directors loan . 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chris p bacon Posted July 17, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 17, 2019 I would cross reference it against the credit card reclaim thread as at first glance there are a lot on there who haven't filled this one out. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium amwells Posted July 17, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 17, 2019 Interestingly I got a letter from Nationwide today explaining that they had managed to ‘recover the funds from the retailer’. Likely to be a template, and yes grateful for the refund, but why bother saying something that I would think highly unlikely. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Colin_McLeod Posted July 17, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 17, 2019 1 hour ago, chris p bacon said: I would cross reference it against the credit card reclaim thread as at first glance there are a lot on there who haven't filled this one out. Chris I agree but I don't want to add any names to the spreadsheet. GDPR and all that. Perhaps I can find a way of referring the threads to the liquidators. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chris p bacon Posted July 17, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 17, 2019 What about a copied and pasted PM to those not on the sheet asking to fill it out ? ( I do appreciate it's a PITA) I somehow doubt the liquidators will take the time to look.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brittannia Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Also the class 92 list seems very low on sales, does it all point to DJModels relying heavily on "Trade Support" and not us crowdfunders for the 92 to come to the market. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir TophamHatt Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 On 11 July 2019 at 12:32, njee20 said: Yes, definitely. It's one thread, on one forum, and the people who want to share their data, so it is inherently a small proportion of the reality. Shame those who don't want to share don't just add their details half anonymously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Rmweb customers may just represent a small number of buyers. He did take orders at shows and there were leaflets and some small adverts too. Also you don,t need to be a member to read this forum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lochlongside Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 On 04/07/2019 at 13:56, njee20 said: I've set up a Google sheet to capture this, it's public, Link to share: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1AGhG07LBdEIA9XwL2AIEN-RKuJ1LvpRaWLPPKADc4fM/edit#gid=0 Just come across this - (must be plenty like me - occasional accessors !! ) Have entered my 2x Cl 92 deposits. Thank you for that - and progress ?? - well still negotiating with my C/C coy (having got a verbal brushoff - I went snail mail with masses of documentation - response was via "secure Email " !! asking for all the stuff I had sent them via snail mail - I await their response to my cross-referenced response with almost unbounded and eager anticipation :-) ) 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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