pinzaboy Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 Hi Bachmann have recently produced an Anglia liveried 47 and I was wondering what trains these locos actually worked. I imagine they ran from London to Norwich, but did they ever operate on freight or infrastructure? Many thanks in advance Tim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anglian Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 From what I remember I'm fairly sure the 47s replaced the Class 31 on passenger trains, which in turn had replaced the Class 37s. The train I used to catch ran Norwich to Cambridge and then onto Liverpool Street. Every single train I got on, for many years, was seven cars long. For a long time they ran a brake second behind the locomotive before moving it to the centre position in the rake. Most 47s I saw on my morning train carried name plates. All the freight was hauled by Class 37. I can't recall having ever seen a Class 47 on a freight train. The train leaving Cambridge shortly after 4pm to London had a buffet car that was somewhere around the centre of the formation. This is from my distant memory – I'm sorry to say the trains didn't interest me so I had no motivation to record anything at all. I know about the brake position in the train as I used to put my bike on board. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 There was only one of them. A few photographs of it on trains here though. http://www.class47.co.uk/c47_photos_8.php?DoIt=Search!&number=47714&livery=87&output=t Jason 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete the Elaner Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 22 minutes ago, Anglian said: From what I remember I'm fairly sure the 47s replaced the Class 31 on passenger trains, which in turn had replaced the Class 37s. The train I used to catch ran Norwich to Cambridge and then onto Liverpool Street. Every single train I got on, for many years, was seven cars long. For a long time they ran a brake second behind the locomotive before moving it to the centre position in the rake. Most 47s I saw on my morning train carried name plates. All the freight was hauled by Class 37. I can't recall having ever seen a Class 47 on a freight train. The train leaving Cambridge shortly after 4pm to London had a buffet car that was somewhere around the centre of the formation. This is from my distant memory – I'm sorry to say the trains didn't interest me so I had no motivation to record anything at all. I know about the brake position in the train as I used to put my bike on board. That was before the wires went all the way to Norwich. Bachmann's model is a lot later than this. I only ever remember seeing it in place of an unavailable 86, or hanging around Colchester waiting for it to be required as a rescue loco. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Red Fox Posted July 5, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 5, 2019 It dragged the mainline sets along non electrified lines on through trains, Summer Saturday services to Great Yarmouth for example. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trains4U Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 I'm pretty sure it was primarily a thunderbird loco 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted July 5, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 5, 2019 It still gets used at old Dalby for moving stock and as a proving loco on the test track was told a few years back it does these runs at 100mph Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted July 5, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 5, 2019 you can see it here.. https://goo.gl/maps/TBvGmEeCe8DVQqbA8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 So not very much then ! Which is why it has become a shelf sitter for Bachmann Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoovernut Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 As previously mentioned they were used on the diverts when Ipswich tunnel was closed. I have a pic somewhere and will try and dig it out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWT442 Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 A search on Flickr yielded a few good results, showing that it strayed far from its Anglia stomping ground. Couple of pictures of it working Freightliner services, including one up the WCML in 2005. Seemed to be used a lot on stock moves of MK3's going to and coming back from painting into ONE colours prior to Class 90 worked services on the GEML. It got around on Railtours too, there's a shot of it at Edinburgh Waverly on one. Looks like it became part of the Cotswold Rail fleet from about 2005 until it went to Old Dalby, as there's pictures of it paired with their liveried Class 47's, as well as doing what looks to ad-hoc and spot hire work. Andy. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzie Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 Hornby did one too and got to market first, so a lot of people will have something already sitting in a siding waiting for Thunderbird duty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steadfast Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 It was owned by Cotswold Rail right from when it gained Anglia colours. They had a contract with Anglia, including class 08 provision, hence the pair of silver 08s. As mentioned, post Anglia, it cropped up on a number of Cotswold/ Advenza workings Jo 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sails Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 17 hours ago, SWT442 said: A search on Flickr yielded a few good results, showing that it strayed far from its Anglia stomping ground. Couple of pictures of it working Freightliner services, including one up the WCML in 2005. Seemed to be used a lot on stock moves of MK3's going to and coming back from painting into ONE colours prior to Class 90 worked services on the GEML. It got around on Railtours too, there's a shot of it at Edinburgh Waverly on one. Looks like it became part of the Cotswold Rail fleet from about 2005 until it went to Old Dalby, as there's pictures of it paired with their liveried Class 47's, as well as doing what looks to ad-hoc and spot hire work. Andy. Quite versatile then if you Rule 1 it around the layout, Mark 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete the Elaner Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 It makes me wonder how many modellers stick strictly to 'I won't buy it if it looks wrong on my layout' & how many buy to run under rule 1? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzie Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 It looks good with a set of matching Anglia liveried aircon Mk2s Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith J Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 20 hours ago, Suzie said: Hornby did one too and got to market first, so a lot of people will have something already sitting in a siding waiting for Thunderbird duty. Wasn't it Heljan? Hornby produced 47 718 in the later One Anglia livery but I don't remember them ever producing 47 714 in Anglia Turquoise, could be wrong though. They did produce quite a few Class 86's in Anglia Turquoise, I think I have them all. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzie Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 I think you might be right, I have both! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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