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Fabulous work on the 47 Brian. Theres's something akin to grandfather's axe about this project!

 

So what's next - are you going to have a crack at lowering the cab roof guttering and remodelling those front windscreens?! 

 

Given the success of the sustained Falcon lobbying, surely we can get some sort of Heljan proportioned but more accurate looking windscreen etches one day...

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Hi Brian

 

Is the pre secrk grille available as a spare part or is it something you've fashioned yourself? I fancy doing the XP64 loco one day.

 

Ian

 

The pre serck grills are in the body/underframe kit from MMP http://www.djparkins.com/acatalog/Locomotives.html You could ask around to see if anyone is not going to use there's after doing there mods. I am hanging on to mine though as I just don't know what I will do in the future.

 

I really must put a driver in mine sometime. Don't forget that back in the early days you would more than likely have a secondman/fireman in the other seat.

 

The windscreen wipers are the ones supplied with the 47 from Heljan!

 

I am not doing any body mods on this as I don't want to re-paint it.

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Many thanks Chris

 

These look excellent ---- Do they come ready painted or did you do it ? 

 

I was considering repositioning the seats to gain a little legroom but then I doubt anyone looking in would see the legless figures 

IIRC they can be purchased painted.

 

I painted the figure - Halfords white spray primer on a cleaned up figure and then a succession of blue/greys based on Vallejo colours for the jacket and trousers; black for the hat with a badge touched in with a Games workshop colour similar to gunmetal (?Chainmail)  flesh is an old acylic I got from a war gaming shop and it's very similar to the Humbrol enamel flesh I remember from my wargaming days in the 1970s......the secret is to use very littl paint on the brush and build up gradually - I also use a light with an in-built magnifier. (I'm glad I don't do much in 4mm any more..)

I suspect you can squeeze the "torso" on to the existing seat if the legs are chopped off complete;y but I wanted a bit of a gap between panel and chest hence the back of the seat amputation...

Chris

Or another option is the 'Games Workshop' way and start with rattle can 'Chaos Black' (I would nowadays recommend an etch primer first as the composition of CB has changed) and then build up lighter colours atop so as to use the base-coat (black) as false shading, wargamer/D&D stylee.

 

Chris, your reply containing paint colour info was very much appreciated. Its been a while since I did a couple of footplate crew sets for a succession of steam locos. I was hoping the Dart figures could save me the trouble of starting all over again

 

Oh well !!!

 

Best regards

Bob

Andrew Stadden does some nice figures, not sure if they come ready painted or not, yet Tower and Omen et al used to.

 

http://www.acstadden.co.uk/Pages/OGaugeLocoCrewFigures.aspx

 

The pre serck grills are in the body/underframe kit from MMP http://www.djparkins.com/acatalog/Locomotives.html You could ask around to see if anyone is not going to use there's after doing there mods. I am hanging on to mine though as I just don't know what I will do in the future.

 

I really must put a driver in mine sometime. Don't forget that back in the early days you would more than likely have a secondman/fireman in the other seat.

 

The windscreen wipers are the ones supplied with the 47 from Heljan!

 

I am not doing any body mods on this as I don't want to re-paint it.

Shawplan were proposing a range of etches for the 47, yet I am not sure where they are at with them at the moment. IIRC there was a lot of debate with ref to the 37 and 47 whether to super-detail with etches that fitted the model as is or provide a set of etches for radical surgery/correction (or perhaps both options). My view was that most owners, psychologically, would not want to have to respray a factory finished model (I could be wrong of course).

 

I was just about to say that a second man would need adding - power to the brotherhood!

 

Those wipers look great Brian, not sure why they look different to mine - my eyesight I expect! :derisive:

 

If I were you I would be very pleased with the HJ 47, in this case if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck then it is a duck, a very nice duck Duff indeed. :yes:  :)  :imsohappy:

 

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Back on topic now :)

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Brian

 

Are these resin side frames? Are they string enough for this type of application?

 

I am not a fan of resin myself

 

Paul R

I know what you mean Paul, yet they are only cosmetic as such so strength isnt an issue - besides Brian has tested them to the limit now!

 

I know some have concerns over the longevity of resin - perhaps David Parkins could comment on such?

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I know what you mean Paul, yet they are only cosmetic as such so strength isnt an issue - besides Brian has tested them to the limit now!

 

I know some have concerns over the longevity of resin - perhaps David Parkin could comment on such?

 

Who is David Parkin?

 

The resin sideframes on the 47 are purely cosmetec so no problem.  Though I agree - wouldn't use them in a load-bearing situation!

 

We only have two of the sideframe sets left as part of our 3-set 47 deal anyway - and none as separate items

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As my 40 will fit alongside my steam fleet timescale wise it will require two crew members. There is a lovely image of D279 standing at Leeds in June 1966 with a Liverpool bound service in the Ian Allan book "Heyday of the Class 40s". Standing alongside on the Platform is the driver hands on hips still decked out in steam era blue overalls and jacket with cap tipped to one side just gazing up at his cab. The 40 looks spotless for a Gateshead allocated loco not so surprising then as the shed had rid itself of a steam allocation the year before. To be fair it was that image which in the end caused me to pull the trigger on a Heljan 40

 

Thanks Guys for the heads up re footplate figures. I'm busy looking at the sites concerned trying to make my mind up 

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Who is David Parkin?

 

The resin sideframes on the 47 are purely cosmetec so no problem.  Though I agree - wouldn't use them in a load-bearing situation!

 

We only have two of the sideframe sets left as part of our 3-set 47 deal anyway - and none as separate items

Hi David,

 

My apologies, I am lower spectrum dyslexic and a 11" computer screen can be a chore at times too.

 

Thanks for the advice on the side-frames.

 

I assumed that you would only sell them as a set (I bought the side-frame and the cab sets).

 

Thanks Brian for allowing us all to see the MMP products fitted and for allowing this line of enquiry to run.

 

Kind regards,

 

CME

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I have been making one of Pete Harvey's plate bufferstops over Christmas. And very nice it is too. In the instructions it says to use a piece of melted plastic in a former to make bolt heads but I just could not get anything to look right so I ordered some plastic bolts from EDM Models to use on the rail clamps and bufferbeam fixings. Didn't quite get enough though to finish the individual clamps behind the buffer. I will paint this in the orange coloured Rail Red, the same as RfD wagons, as I think that's about right. Thankfully it slides onto the railhead so can be removed for spraying! The buffer planks are just stirrers from a coffee shop but look ok.

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Brian, that buffer beam looks great , PS where are the bolt effect rail joiners from ?

 

Happy Modelling

Craig.

 

C&L Finescale do some nice fishplates ( rail joiners ) in both brass or plastic.

 

Martyn.

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I have added a bit of weathering to the 47's tanks and bufferbeams so it looks a lot better now. Painted Pete Harvey's plate bufferstop as well in Rail Red and Signal Red and white for the buffer plank. Hopefully this should stop the odd runaway on my demo table!

 

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What are the extra little clamps at the rear?

 

Thats to stop the whole buffer stop assembly sliding along should Brian be a bit over zealous with the throttle.........everything extra helps when a driver is near the end of his shift :D

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That's quite right David. There are three little clamps but I will only put one or two on the rail head as it takes up valuable running space. I will have this at Bristol if you want to see it the flesh, it's not so orange in real life.

 

Gave the 47 a run today and it looked the part I must say. One draw back though is if you look down on the tanks you can see right through the top to the track. I think a block of black plasticard is needed here.

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I have added a bit of weathering to the 47's tanks and bufferbeams so it looks a lot better now. Painted Pete Harvey's plate bufferstop as well in Rail Red and Signal Red and white for the buffer plank. Hopefully this should stop the odd runaway on my demo table!

 

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Hi Brian,

 

The Cl47 looks FANTASTIC!

 

The Cl47 seems to have real weight and sits down nicely on the bogies - shame about the issue with the tanks, yet that's the issue with fold-up brass, I am sure your quick fix will sort it though. A quick question, do you think it was worth the extra work with adding the tanks?

 

Kindest,

 

CME

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Hi Brian I understand how you feel about that, was all that work worth the effort ? Sometimes it is just easier to stick with what you have.

 

A lot of us know what work went into it, but by the time it is sprayed up and weathered up is there a noticeable lift up of the model ? Only you can decide for yourself.

 

Did you get job satisfaction from doing it ?

 

Best regards

Craig

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