surfsup Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 (edited) A Somewhat surprising yet very welcome announcement from RevolutioN has appeared this morning. I think I'll be ordering a few of those timber carriers, just the KSA (Rover Cube) to do next! Well done Ben and team! https://www.revolutiontrains.com/hydro-hold-alls-and-touax-timber-2-for-1-from-revolution/?shared=email&msg=fail Hydro hold-alls and Touax timber 2-for-1 from Revolution Posted on 14/07/2019 by Ben Ando in Uncategorized | Leave a comment Revolution Trains is proposing the imposing Sfins2 “hold-all” internationally registered ferry-vans in original form, and as the recent timber conversions, as its next 00 project. 37420 with 6E48 Hallem Marsh – Immingham at Water Orton in 1991. Photo courtesy Kevin Payne. 160 of these ferryvans were built by Waggon Union from 1987 and their design incorporated integral one-piece sides and roofs so that each complete half can be lifted and slid over the other, using the distinctive handwheels at each end, for unencumbered loading and unloading. When built they were operated by Cargowaggon GMbH and ISIS/Norsk Hydro. The Hyrdo wagons were primarily used to transport fertiliser from Immingham to destinations in the Midlands, Scotland and south Wales. Photo courtesy Paul Bartlett. Those in Cargowaggon livery saw more varied use on steel traffic, bottled water and newsprint in both block trains and Speedlink wagonload services. Photo courtesy Paul Bartlett. Many are still in use on trains carrying aluminium ingots from Ditton Foundry near Warrington to Nievenheim in Germany via the Channel tunnel. 92002 6M14 Dollands Moor – Ditton Foundry at Acton Bridge in 2014. Photo courtesy Colin Pottle. In 2012 30 were converted into timber carriers. The hoods were removed, along with the lifting and sliding gear, and heavy duty stanchions were fitted along the sides. They have subsequently seen widespread use in Britain carrying log traffic associated with the Kronospan works at Chirk. Freightliner’s 70007 on hire to Colas eases through Carlisle with logs bound for Chirk in February 2019. Revolution would like to thank Touax, who now own the wagons, and Arlington Fleet Services at Eastleigh for all their help in providing comprehensive drawings and access to the real things. Sfins2 – Rfnoos CAD design work is underway, and we will be publishing CAD images very soon. We anticipate operning the order book at that time, and as ever the quicker we receive orders, the faster the models can be tooled and manufactured. We will be offering original Norsk Hydro and Cargowaggon liveries, as well as in their reconfigured form as timber carriers with Touax. The models will be to the same specification as our MMA/JNA box wagons, which have been completed and are currently in transit to the UK, with NEM coupler sockets, NMRA-specified weight and bogies designed to accept drop-in EM or P4 axles. N gauge versions will follow in due course. Edited July 15, 2019 by surfsup Added the wagon type. 14 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted July 14, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 14, 2019 The log carriers will be a perfect addition to my 10x KFAs when the club layout is ready to accommodate a much longer train............. Good choice guys. Cheers, Mick 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Pilotman Posted July 15, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 15, 2019 9 hours ago, surfsup said: N gauge versions will follow in due course. Excellent news! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted July 15, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 15, 2019 Hello all, Thanks for the positive response. It was something of a soft launch - not as usual at a show - but we are hoping to have CADs up on the website soon. cheers Ben A. 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 My collection of photos of these vans (all a long time ago!) is at https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/ferrynorskhydro which includes about 10 only posted this weekend and a number of details. It will be a considerable model; these are large items of stock. Paul 1 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoey Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 YES!!!! The log carriers are exactly what I’ve been wanting for a loooong time 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chriswild Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Good choice, for privatisation era enterprise workings and block trains alike. I'll definitely be ordering this wagon in the cargowaggon livery. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
87023Velocity Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Great news and certainly looking forward to the N gauge version. Cheers Simon 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melangoose Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Great choice of wagons. Bogie Timber Carrier is on my wish list. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mevaman1 Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Great choice as they ran in Cornwall. Definitely on fertiliser from Ince to Truro. I think that they may have also been used on bagged clay. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike at C&M Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Excellent news. If I had a pound for every time someone has asked if anyone does the Carlisle - Chirk timber wagons, I could buy a very long rake of these wagons! Mike at C&M 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted July 16, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 16, 2019 Brilliant, will defiantly be getting a few more log carriers to go with the 5 i’ve Converted from Heljan Cargowaggon flats 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium acg5324 Posted July 16, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 16, 2019 Great news, looking forward to the N gauge ones.....more ferry vans required. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perfect Paul Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Hi Ben, Any idea as to the overall length of these wagons. I have started measuring fiddle yards, to accommodate !!! Cheers. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
47475 Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 I am very happy about the ferry vans in particular. Very much looking forward to the eventual N gauge versions. I will buy several. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz9284 Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 can the log carriers please be made DCC ready so a DCC 'smell' chip can be added for the pine smell as they pass :-D 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted July 17, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 17, 2019 10 hours ago, Perfect Paul said: Hi Ben, Any idea as to the overall length of these wagons. I have started measuring fiddle yards, to accommodate !!! Cheers. The prototypes are just under 21m long. cheers Ben A. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perfect Paul Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Ben A said: The prototypes are just under 21m long. cheers Ben A. Thanks Ben, but unfortunately I haven't got a fiddle yard that is 21metres long. I might have to re-design the layout. (Lol) Cheers, Paul 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wandering blue Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 10 hours ago, Perfect Paul said: Hi Ben, Any idea as to the overall length of these wagons. I have started measuring fiddle yards, to accommodate !!! Cheers. 20760mm buffer to buffer according to data sheet on Touaxrail website. http://www.touaxrail.com/sites/touax/files/Sfins 2.pdf 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 25 minutes ago, daz9284 said: can the log carriers please be made DCC ready so a DCC 'smell' chip can be added for the pine smell as they pass :-D 'Smell-o-rail'.... I can't wait for the milk and the ammonical liquor tanks - 'do not operate with windows shut' 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Steven B Posted July 17, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 17, 2019 Just when I thought I had enough ferry vans.... Replace "boat" with "Layout" or "stock box"! Steven B 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz9284 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 On 17/07/2019 at 08:49, Fat Controller said: 'Smell-o-rail'.... I can't wait for the milk and the ammonical liquor tanks - 'do not operate with windows shut' or a binliner.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BMacdermott Posted July 18, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 18, 2019 Hello Ben Congratulations on this announcement! The Timber Wagons have been Middle Polling in the last three Wishlist Polls. We didn't list the Cargowaggon, but - on reflection - probably should have! I think our reasoning was that Heljan had made another version. All the best for the project. Brian (on behalf of The 00 Wishlist Poll Team) 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CazRail Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 Very much looking forwards to the holdalls, 6 or 7 will do a decent representation of the Anglesey Aluminum billet train! Will definately get some of the Cargowaggon versions! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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