Jump to content

Recommended Posts

Right them, finally time for a progress report on the rodding. 
 

unfortunately point rodding is one of the items I deal with in my profession, that means there really is no get outs or excuses! I enjoy the thought of doing much more that actually doing it as it’s so small.

 

So progress. 
 

the lead off bench which is outside the box is now in place with all the cranks and pulleys in place and all the rods. I had to move the box in the end as it was just too close, luckily that’s not an issue 

 

82470AA3-9941-4699-BC3A-F1A5E71DBA76.jpeg.45eee7c92f42a2cda5f999b22cc7cc10.jpeg
 

248AAAC0-5BF1-4D12-BA92-858FDF070B23.jpeg.072c28669b248c83d0bc5b15c61cdc80.jpeg

 

C5AF2606-1425-43EE-ABBA-23715A8895BA.jpeg.c07e556385f540bc554526cddc2e544d.jpeg

 

the point on the departure line has been connected up with all of the FPL parts, for the first section of rodding run it’s 5 rods wide and the modelu rodding rollers really do look good. The closest thing to scale I’ve come across. If it was Wills it would be at least twice as wide

 

E312995D-F0E9-448C-8765-D0FA7F305B22.jpeg.8b03811b6c78efd87cd797394c21c8d5.jpeg

 

C8021A98-2CC1-4F71-8276-FB3873BE7EF6.jpeg.4abf0b3989a739b1889d4cc1dacbaf0f.jpeg

 

The 3 compensators on the run down the hill are also now connected up

 

772274B5-424C-49B9-9C2E-E45FAF4579E2.jpeg.c4b6acb5f5ff78e6f2a7c3e180ce6c7f.jpeg

 

10FAFED4-B593-42D9-B019-0F365DDF8FF1.jpeg.2808f0c816bd40dd6cc78638d95d5cd5.jpeg

 

finally the easy bit of straight rodding down the hill to the other points is now in, I had previously done the bottom end so that means we now have a completed roddding run

 

C1452F20-2105-450E-A077-6CA0A9B3D88F.jpeg.0ee31ef6f7d0b95e83664d77db1366ff.jpeg

 

The only section now left to do is on the other side of the track going from the box up to the incoming point. I just stuck down the stools and marked the positions of the cranks, hopefully will complete that next week

 

AFE3A586-08A7-403B-8736-600F19DA59DF.jpeg.7485406b4f2f3896f7b9ef694a91c3f3.jpeg

  • Like 11
  • Craftsmanship/clever 7
Link to post
Share on other sites

Most impressive and instructive, I was thinking about getting the ballast down on my layout, but I can see that will result in a one way ticket to that favourite station of all railway modellers, Effing & Blinding Halt.

 

Plans duly revised, thanks!

  • Like 2
  • Agree 1
  • Friendly/supportive 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, Johndc120 said:

unfortunately point rodding is one of the items I deal with in my profession, that means there really is no get outs or excuses! I enjoy the thought of doing much more that actually doing it as it’s so small.

Just be glad you don’t have to make it work!

As others have said, absolutely beautiful.

Is it round rodding?  (Looks like it from a distance.)

Paul.

  • Funny 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, MrWolf said:

Most impressive and instructive, I was thinking about getting the ballast down on my layout, but I can see that will result in a one way ticket to that favourite station of all railway modellers, Effing & Blinding Halt.

 

Plans duly revised, thanks!

 

Thank you, there's a few different ways, some ballast and then dig out which I never understand.

 

another way is just to put in the concretes, then ballast before adding the rodding, rollers and cranks. I'm not convinced on this as I like to airbrush the rodding, I think you'll end up with with a hairy stick nightmare trying to hand paint it all by hand. So I do it all and then when I prime and paint the track I also do the point rodding. it's the same shade of dirty brown!

 

  • Like 1
  • Agree 1
  • Informative/Useful 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, Southwich said:

That is absolutely stunning - lovely work John! 
 

Kind regards,

 

Will

 

Thanks Will, I'm sure you're going to need some on Motts lane soon! let me know if you want some of he 3D printed cranks etc

 

John

  • Thanks 1
  • Friendly/supportive 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, 5BarVT said:

Just be glad you don’t have to make it work!

As others have said, absolutely beautiful.

Is it round rodding?  (Looks like it from a distance.)

Paul.

 

Thanks again Paul

 

indeed. it's bad enough on the full size stuff, it's one of those things that's fascinating and I understand it well, just it's always hard work and you know somewhere along the lines someone has bodged something up to make it work.

 

so yes We've gone for the round rodding being ex-GWR and in 1955 I doubt any would have been replaced. even now there's sections of it at Park Junction!

  • Informative/Useful 2
Link to post
Share on other sites
  • RMweb Gold

That looks absolutely wonderful and I'm glad to see that you've put the rodding in nice and early on.

 

I left it until the track had been weathered and ballasted the first time I did it, never again!

 

  • Agree 1
  • Informative/Useful 3
Link to post
Share on other sites
52 minutes ago, dj_crisp said:

Fantastic stuff!

I'm just about to start planning my point rodding adventure - its certainly interesting!

Will


The advise I would give to anyone is to put in your drive and lock cranks where they need to go because they are fixed positions.
 

Then starting at the signal box end put your first roller 18mm from the lead off bench and then have a roller every 36mm. Where you have cranks in the way of where the rollers should go just shift that roller to one side and then continue the pattern of 36mm.

 

once all the rollers are in then put your compensators in half way between the points and the box just in between a set of rollers, don’t move the rollers for a comp as you have 5 yards of tolerance either way of it’s correct position.

 

hope that makes sense 

  • Informative/Useful 9
Link to post
Share on other sites
  • 2 weeks later...

Not a great deal to show on the layout at the moment, however we have been asked to be part of the EMGS EM expo virtual show on May 22nd. This puts a bit of emphasis on ensuring the layout can run and get some more stock converted. 
 

here’s the highlights of the testing so far

 

One of my favourites is the Pway train with the ballast plough brake on the station end


we’ve always wanted to try a bit of banking seen as we have a 1:50 coming out of Elmore so there’s a couple of attempts at it as well.

  • Like 8
  • Craftsmanship/clever 2
Link to post
Share on other sites
  • 2 months later...

Hi all, sorry for the last of progress over the couple of months, just seen now the last progress post was the back end of February! 
 

the big news is that Elmore was featured as part of this years EM gauge expo, we did quite a bit of filming while the layout was up in full and this served as quite a good workout for the layout. A few gremlins had to be sorted but otherwise it ran very well.

 

Since the show has now passed we can post the video publicly so if you would like to see it, please follow this link

 

 

 

 

the video firstly describes the building of the layout and then runs through a few sequences to demonstrate how it will be run, hopefully we’ll be able to keep it as busy as this at an exhibition.

 

finally we’ve also pushed on and got some work done on the layout. Firstly the station platform shell is slowly being constructed, this shell is from slaters plasticard and will than be clad with brick finish on the sides but also various different top finishes.

 

58225D9E-4640-4A33-9BEC-7A4CB2378E2A.jpeg.d7fa4380194d717ade3374b667ef722c.jpeg

 

9CC280FE-379A-404A-9703-4ADC26534152.jpeg.2b68535b9e478b91054697c65ec0f1ed.jpeg

 

917D94EB-5DD6-4EA0-A66C-A5B3E05FA11A.jpeg.2da9b8b4ec4494c07010a252c207c517.jpeg

 

86EC1C15-72F3-4EA4-AE0E-28157DB24412.jpeg.888bd737b35b488d67a74a87cffe527c.jpeg

 

On the main platform face we are looking at having paving slabs edges with 1 or 2 rows of paving slabs laid lengthways along the platform, infront of the building we will changed to fully paved laid widthways. For the bay we are looking at producing bull nose blocks which have the diamonds cut into the top surface, the gap then between the blocks on the bay and the paving on the main will then be a gravel infill.

this is one of our trials with the bull nose blocks, ignore the brick platform that is likely to be the finish for the cattle dock

 

01CFDAAB-8B4D-4B67-BF2E-08D1271CB5C5.jpeg.9b60cbe80120a8f7b1a81d4a4b53b1cb.jpeg

 

also completed over the last week has been the station ground frame and the associated point rodding, this is the last bit of rodding to go in, hooray!!!! I am very proud how the rodding has come out but it’s never easy to do!

 

the frame is parts taken from an old springside signal box interior kit, I have then built the base up using plasticard and a Ground frame cupboard which I have printed myself. The inspiration for this was Aberthaw GF, I just now need a set over over the top steps (see last photo by Adrian Vaughan)

 

6234BDB0-D5AA-44AF-91F2-13D1E2989273.jpeg.f76a83b2cdbbfe6477cd43d3b7eeb6ec.jpeg

 

26E8AD92-69A9-42EC-8AE6-27451151D78A.jpeg.bbf868aa910ac27b41ed440e03f3ea0d.jpeg

 

74DECCE1-D605-4101-9D85-54EA727A62DA.jpeg.8755b64b4cc47a9de111319e0f6e0447.jpeg

 

E99A62F0-9882-4841-BB3D-2C5482684EA1.jpeg.db226a43ee7d4bb0f0ca9c7ad785faed.jpeg

 

EE8C1676-98B3-4212-8138-D7000ABBCB25.jpeg.903a4abf3ee4ecddeff30f59c42c2bf2.jpeg

  • Like 8
  • Craftsmanship/clever 6
  • Round of applause 1
Link to post
Share on other sites

Good to have you back - video is luuvverley!  I hadn’t realised that there is no signalled route for a main line arrival to the bay.  Adds to the operating ‘fun’.

Very nice G.F. Based on a sample of 1 renewal (Reading yard late ‘75) I was going to say that it will look good in blue brick . . . then I got to the Aberthaw photo.  Collapse of stout party!

Paul.

  • Like 2
Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted (edited)
44 minutes ago, 5BarVT said:

Good to have you back - video is luuvverley!  I hadn’t realised that there is no signalled route for a main line arrival to the bay.  Adds to the operating ‘fun’.

Very nice G.F. Based on a sample of 1 renewal (Reading yard late ‘75) I was going to say that it will look good in blue brick . . . then I got to the Aberthaw photo.  Collapse of stout party!

Paul.

Indeed, that was one of 2 routes we decided to drop out to make life more interesting, the other being to run wrong road from the main platform to the mainline. We didn’t want to crowd it with signals and we felt it would add extra interest not including these. also the wrong direction move felt unprototypical.
 

The bay line is more or less only used by branchline autos although there is enough length to shunt in a B-set for starting from the bay. Starting from the bay you can of course go either way anyway

Edited by Johndc120
  • Like 2
  • Agree 1
Link to post
Share on other sites

This week we have continued our efforts on the platform, we have now added the section around the end of the platform tracks and built the section for the cattle dock to go on. finally we can start to see how the catch pit will look, previously I've felt it doesn't really make sense. 

 

549152955_WhatsAppImage2021-06-07at22_43.48(1).jpeg.f9d22ddb4b1cf42b36e7c0f37cc464d2.jpeg

 

665649822_WhatsAppImage2021-06-07at22_43_49.jpeg.630ac89b4f5481c7e2a20255b9c41b0e.jpeg

 

We have also put the first piece of the ramp coming down to the yard level, this is a bit of trial and we're not quite sure if the angle is right yet. We do however like how it confines the coal yard area.

 

on the bay platform we have now added the first layer of brick, this is now ready for the bull nose stones and 2 more layers of brick to build out the overhang.

 

1192142217_WhatsAppImage2021-06-07at22_43_47.jpeg.6b4f5731bacaab67eaab0712936b4b59.jpeg

 

909858551_WhatsAppImage2021-06-07at22_43_48.jpeg.411fad310b7939b712d1adcb5ddd8ed1.jpeg

 

At the end of the cattle dock line we are having an end loading dock, I've been doing some research for it and came across this lovely shot by Mike Black, it shows 2 metal ramps fitted to the wall above the buffers, I really like this feature so with a bit of 3D design we are now planning to do the same!

 

195114774_1178787909213716_3966440819830218818_n.jpg.570904d02c8bcb86769c298cf30ecdb7.jpg

 

197982128_1178787922547048_6691991910959077257_n.jpg.234da14e53c613175bc02b9ad7f023ec.jpg

 

198192555_1178787952547045_6679687745787978038_n.jpg.636cf7024c78ffcbb9b283d1a787dd18.jpg

  • Like 8
  • Craftsmanship/clever 3
Link to post
Share on other sites
3 hours ago, Johndc120 said:

on the bay platform we have now added the first layer of brick, this is now ready for the bull nose stones and 2 more layers of brick to build out the overhang.

Based on memory (always dodgy) and a sample of one (Tilehurst): did bull nose / gravel platforms have an overhang or did they tend to predate such requirements?

Paul.

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
6 hours ago, 5BarVT said:

Based on memory (always dodgy) and a sample of one (Tilehurst): did bull nose / gravel platforms have an overhang or did they tend to predate such requirements?

Paul.


memory seems to be serving you pretty well!!


certainly it was in use before the requirement for the overhang, however I seen several examples where modest overhangs are present and then there’s this platform 

 

https://www.warwickshirerailways.com/gwr/gwrha1419b.htm

 

which is really ornate and had quite a bit of overhang so I would guess they were still using bull nose when they introduced overhangs

 

john

  • Thanks 1
Link to post
Share on other sites

More work on the platforms and station area today. We are starting to add the bull nose edging on the sections which don’t have the platform overhang, bits like the end of the bay and the cattle dock. 
 

4C79BF91-316A-4315-95C1-6A0CC909D9AD.jpeg.9c7296f976547b4fe2bffdce787cf42c.jpeg

 

0095208A-ECE6-44C3-A392-F84CB810F7D6.jpeg.e38d1fd9ae6bb4b072f0988528026ed5.jpeg

 

After a successful print of the end loading dock ramps we have now constructed the dock, this is a raised brick section with a concrete beam on the loading section and bull nose bricks on the sides

 

3BED6541-E822-4A2C-9227-BC2FDAE9D9A3.jpeg.106a5ddb392b7f1982483131f14857e3.jpeg

 

5B0AC8E3-5B13-407A-9086-95825ECA1C02.jpeg.46a7e6ff02d3fca6896833701ac66cd9.jpeg

 

E2D4C9AC-3576-47DC-95C2-837B82369939.jpeg.d97b4abc2a868ec9bca8a461c5f72e77.jpeg

 

 

The cattle dock, as well as having it’s edging has also had the brick frontage which ties in with the catch pit

 

0ABEF31F-C944-4E52-A7D6-566FFA6D4CCE.jpeg.c58837fb7e997119d2cbd201b50153ff.jpeg

 

4B5830C4-AFB8-44C0-A334-51C3F597DF03.jpeg.bcacfcec00113112b9298bfb2918d2d0.jpeg

  • Like 9
  • Craftsmanship/clever 3
Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

×
×
  • Create New...