RMweb Gold Richard_A Posted December 18, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 18, 2020 11 hours ago, Bucoops said: Found it - 1015 Thanks, I have found an alternative to the mashima one so that's sorted. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Richard_A Posted December 18, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 18, 2020 11 hours ago, Michael Edge said: The DS10 is available from Branchlines as a Hanozono 10x24. I think the one I have may have had its shaft cut short at one end - for motor bogies like that I use Mitsumi motors but double ended ones can be hard to find sometimes. Thank you, I have downloaded their catalogue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Richard_A Posted December 18, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 18, 2020 10 hours ago, cctransuk said: When all else fails - I have ample stocks of double-shafted Mitsumi motors. John Isherwood, Cambridge Custom Transfers. https://www.cctrans.org.uk/products.htm Are your motors suitable for the Alexander models bogie set up? I think they might be too big at first glance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted December 18, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 18, 2020 I don't know, it's a long time since I built any of the Alexander kits, two DS10s were OK for the Clayton as I recall but Dave's kits were always very heavy. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 (edited) On 18/12/2020 at 08:24, rka said: Are your motors suitable for the Alexander models bogie set up? I think they might be too big at first glance. When I built my Alexander 10800, I used Black Beetle power bogies - but that was before I discovered the Mitsumi motors. I would have no hesitation in installing Mitsumi motors - ideally two - as they have plenty of power. As to whether they would fit - I couldn't say, not having used them in that way. John Isherwood. Edited January 12, 2021 by cctransuk 6 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barclay Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 17 hours ago, Michael Edge said: The DS10 is available from Branchlines as a Hanozono 10x24. I think the one I have may have had its shaft cut short at one end - for motor bogies like that I use Mitsumi motors but double ended ones can be hard to find sometimes. Hi I like that simple bogie design - can I ask where you get the plastic worm/gear sets from and presumably you find the reduction sufficient with the Mitsumi motor? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted December 18, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 18, 2020 Plastic gears from China via Ebay as usual - these are .5 module. The relatively slow running Mitsumi motor gives a realistic top speed for these electric locos, I've not timed one but I think it's somewhere between 70 and 90 mph. Wheels are 4ft diameter, so bigger than most diesels though. 1 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnforth Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 (edited) On 18/12/2020 at 08:24, rka said: Are your motors suitable for the Alexander models bogie set up? I think they might be too big at first glance. When I built my Clayton I used two Bachmann CL25 gear towers, Mashima 14/28 with two flywheels on cab floor. Mounted via press studs under the bonnets. Works well. Edited December 19, 2020 by Carnforth Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post Michael Edge Posted December 19, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted December 19, 2020 The D10 is now finished, ready for the grit blast and paintshop now. On test on Wentworth Junction now, it needs a little attention to the bogie pivot - it's fine out here but derailed a couple of times on the approach to the fiddle yard. With a temporary DG peg on the back it pulled a 30 wagon train in the other direction on to the 1 in 40, far enough to get the banker on the back. The 60 wagon empties going the other way were a bit too much though - boiler is empty though and there's more than enough power in the Mabuchi. Probably won't get painted until after Christmas now though. 20 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold A Murphy Posted December 19, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 19, 2020 That D10 looks fantastic. Alastair M Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post Michael Edge Posted December 26, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted December 26, 2020 The Q4 tender now finished, loco on test on Wentworth Junction. Checking it on the colliery branch, thw Wentworth Silkstone trip to Barnsley Junction will be its usual duty. This tender is one of the ones built with open coal rails, later plated over on the outside - done by laminating the two options from the kit together with the beading on the sheet raves to the inside, there was no beading on the outside of these. All the Q4 tenders had had their water scoops removed by the early 50s but I don't know whether all the boxes in the coal space were taken out. The scoop wheel was gone but the filler remained - top views of these tenders don't seem to be very common. The buffer heads will be fitted after grit blasting but before painting. 21 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted December 26, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 26, 2020 3 hours ago, Michael Edge said: The buffer heads will be fitted after grit blasting but before painting. Do you grit-blast the resin bits as well, Mike? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted December 27, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 27, 2020 Yes, it doesn't seem to affect them in any way. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold A Murphy Posted December 27, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 27, 2020 The Q4 looks terrific Michael. Alastair 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted December 27, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 27, 2020 (edited) The Q4 needs a bit of black paint then .... a lot of filth. Baz Edited December 27, 2020 by Barry O 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted December 27, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 27, 2020 Don't worry it will be on its way to you in due course, as a Barnsley loco it wouldn't have seen much in the way of cleaning. Black paint will probably be done next week. The first test run revealed a couple of out of gauge wheelsets, worst of all one of them was the leading driving axle but now all corrected and it runs happily everywhere. It will be better with some weight in it but that's not until after painting. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post Michael Edge Posted January 6, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted January 6, 2021 Another test track photo but this is something of a before and after sequence. A long threatened job was to get the test track shelf down and rebuild it, some of the track was getting in rather bad condition so... Here it is, off the shelf brackets, wires chopped and turned round on to the big bench. It's been gathering dust there for nearly 34 years (since I moved here), it's never even had a proper clean. Four different track systems, the multi gauge section with its 28" reverse curve, some Peco O gauge at 6ft radius, Triang TT at 9" radius and some old Hornby Dublo 3 rail. The last one has only ever seen very occasional use but I keep it out of nostalgia more than anything else. The switches seen in the first photo select power between these four tracks, the black button is for an uncoupling magnet. The Din socket is for our standard controller plug and the ancient Triang resistance controller has had its cut out disabled - the transformer feeding it has one with a very slow response. The main track has been completely fettled and an additional rail fitted on the left, this is for New Zealand 1:48 scale and is more or less S gauge. The roller gauge I made many years ago to lay this track wasn't long enough to reach this one though. For anyone interested to pick out the various gauges, the next one from the left does P4 with No6, the third one is 00 with no6 and O gauge with no8. The fourth one does 12mm TT with no6, the fifth one is 9mm with no6. The one on the far right was laid to give Irish 5ft 3in in S7 but turns out to be GW broad gauge with the new S gauge rail as well. The whole thing has thrown up a significant number of useful accidentals, I now have a dedicated EM track now (previously EM had been tested on the P4), 14mm for 3mm scale, 8mm in case I ever need a proper 2ft gauge and somewhere in there is 21mm for Irish gauge. Some of these require rails at different polarities so the middle rail in this picture now has a separate switch to chnge over from inside rail to outside rail. The wiring is a lot neater now, with a plug and socket in there so it can be taken down more easily. The extra switch is visible in this picture and the controller socket has been moved down to the edge of the bench. The uncoupler magnet is a bit melted but it still works. Last one before it gets cluttered again, the sign at the end forming a new buffer stop was a Christmas present I had to find a place for. The tape measure scale is for the "dynamometer" spring rig to check power of locos by seeing how far they can stretch it out (it's hooked behind the sign). I've also lowered the whole thing one notch on the shelf rack so it's all an inch or so lower. 17 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Andy Ross Posted January 6, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 6, 2021 Mike i have put up a photo and drawing of the multi gauge test track on my Hunslet project thread. Every gauge but 5’3”. Andy 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium New Haven Neil Posted January 6, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 6, 2021 I'm just waiting for a turnout to be built for that! No sign of the Harton 2/10 electric in that first shot, Michael.... ;-) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted January 7, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 7, 2021 Some of the usual inhabitants haven't returned yet.... The Harton loco is finished in any case, still needs lost wax cast buffers ordering (and production etches). The Hunslet 325hp 0-6-0 is also finished, etches should have been here before Christmas but PEC ran out of .022" brass. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Moore Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 Mike Any chance of some more photos of the DL sentinel. Mouths still frothing from the first glimpse. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium New Haven Neil Posted January 9, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 9, 2021 Thanks Michael - I'm up for a 7mm Harton electric as soon as they are available. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted January 11, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 11, 2021 Some more pictures of the DL Sentinel The sliding doors can be made to work (and were often left open - it must have been hot in there), showing the rather basic representation of the boiler. From underneath it's just the same as the 0-6-0DH, the conventionally shaped cranks can be seen behind the covering discs. No bearings fitted to the compensating beams, this is not going to be a working model - the next one might be though. 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post Michael Edge Posted January 11, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted January 11, 2021 I've been slowly going through older locos in my collection and replacing motors and gearboxes with more efficient modern equipment. This is one of the oldest, dating from 1977, in the foreground is the K's MkII, good in its time but rather weak and high current consumption now. The cheap Chinese motor was an easy replacement, leaving the Romford 40:1 gears this time. The K's motor was bolted to a plate across the frames, to fit the new one (which has no fixing screw holes) I soldered a nickel silver plate to the bottom pole piece and soldered all that in place on the frames. It runs really well and a lot less on the ammeter. This is the loco, the last of the L&Y small boilered 0-8-0s. It was built to run on Wigan Wallgate and has been out of use now for many years, not really appropriate for any layout I provide motive power for. All scratchbuilt from brass, steel and nickel silver it still looks good, only marred by the visible worm gear under the boiler, BarryO added the weathering more recently. 21 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandhole Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Michael Edge said: Some more pictures of the DL Sentinel The sliding doors can be made to work (and were often left open - it must have been hot in there), showing the rather basic representation of the boiler. From underneath it's just the same as the 0-6-0DH, the conventionally shaped cranks can be seen behind the covering discs. No bearings fitted to the compensating beams, this is not going to be a working model - the next one might be though. AH brings joy to my battered Manc heart. I'm really looking forward to this being available. My warchest is ready. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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