Tim V Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 Blaenau Ffestiniog, modellers eye view (!) 1974. 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andye Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 30 minutes ago, Tim V said: Blaenau Ffestiniog, modellers eye view (!) 1974. Great picture, interesting in that none of the sidings appear to be connected to the line that the DMU is on, and yet there is stock in the sidings! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold C126 Posted May 13, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 13, 2020 (edited) You do not happen to have any of the W.W.ii. Cold Store at Hexham, do you? Just asked on the off-chance; I doubt it was rail served at all, anyway, but I do love the structures. Thanks. [Sorry, this was quoting the O.P., but I have messed it up!] Edited May 13, 2020 by C126 Error in composition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim V Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 I think it's the darkness in the picture, this one from 1978 shows the pointwork. the 1974 picture was on a Boots Beirette, while in 1978 I'd graduated onto an Olympus OM1. 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DLT Posted May 13, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 13, 2020 BRILLIANT photos folks, please keep them coming! Cheers, Dave. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo675 Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 2 hours ago, montyburns56 said: Cheers Gibbo. Although even with that information I found it difficult to find any pictures of it which is strange for a preserved coach, but it seems to be this coach pictured here at The Scottish Preservation Society website. http://www.srpsmuseum.org.uk/10060.htm And here's the other coach Breakdown Unit Tool van DE321109 at Inverness - 01/06/1970 Hi Monty, Thanks for the links, as interesting as ever. May I ask a favour that you post the breakdown crane related photographs on the below signature linked topic Rail Mounted Cranes. Cheers, Gibbo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Pilotman Posted May 13, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 13, 2020 Truro in 1986. I don't know if the yard was still being used for loading/unloading by then as the train is the cement for Chacewater being stabled overnight for delivery the next morning. 19 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted May 15, 2020 Author Share Posted May 15, 2020 Monkwearmouth Goods Yard 1976 18 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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montyburns56 Posted May 15, 2020 Author Share Posted May 15, 2020 Forres 1981 Dumfries 1981 17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post montyburns56 Posted May 15, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted May 15, 2020 If you edited this Class 73 at Guildford out if this picture you would have thought that it was from the 60s and not actually 1980. 24 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnofwessex Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 So when exactly did 'wagon load' freight stop? There was 'Speedlink' but that pre dates it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggzuk Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 Just love this Thread. Gives you a warm fussy feeling of days done by when mixed goods trains rulled. Some great location and photos. Cheers guys. 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted May 15, 2020 Author Share Posted May 15, 2020 3 hours ago, johnofwessex said: So when exactly did 'wagon load' freight stop? There was 'Speedlink' but that pre dates it I've been wondering that myself as I keep coming across pictures of non-air braked mixed goods trains right into the early 80s. I initially presumed that Speedlink (1977) would have made them redundant, but quite a few carried on for years afterwards it seems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ramblin Rich Posted May 15, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 15, 2020 (edited) The 'Modelling the British Rail Era' book says that in the mid 1970s, traditional unfitted or vacuum braked type wagon load services which ran parallel to the air braked network (which became Speedlink) became known as Other Wagonload OWL. Often feeder services would be mixed air and vacuum stock running as partially fitted trains with a brake van needed. This then became absorbed into Speedlink by 1984 when air braked wagons were available. Some traditional style wagons hung on in revenue service for some time eg the Clayhoods until 1986, albeit in block train form. Even then the engineers still used vacuum braked stock for some time after, eg the Turbot wagons were still being rebuilt from Bolster Es until 1984 and in use until the 90s. There were also still some unfitted block trains such as export coal to Swansea docks (where the unloading tipplers could not accept vacuum braked stock) and Alumina traffic from Blyth; these both ran until about 1994. Edited May 15, 2020 by Ramblin Rich 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted May 16, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 16, 2020 23 hours ago, Ramblin Rich said: Other Wagonload OWL. Often feeder services would be mixed air and vacuum stock running as partially fitted trains with a brake van needed. I'm fairly sure that I was seeing such trains on the Water Orton-Walsall (aka Sutton Park) line, hauled by Class 25s, right up to mid-1983. My route to school was parallel to the line for half a mile or so. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivercider Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 (edited) On 15/05/2020 at 14:49, johnofwessex said: So when exactly did 'wagon load' freight stop? There was 'Speedlink' but that pre dates it I believe the traditional vacuum braked wagon load network ceased in May 1984. Remaining revenue earning wagon load traffic was transferred to air braked wagons on the Speedlink network. That does not of course mean the end of vacuum braked (or unfitted) revenue earning traffic, but after that date it only ran in block trains, eg vac braked coal to Llanwern BSC, in MDVs/HTVs, or for export via Swansea in unfitted MDOs. In order to move engineers wagons and repaired cripples around the system a small network of vacuum braked services remained. There was a small network based on Gloucester New Yard with services to Tavistock Junction, Radyr, Bescot, Swindon etc. These ran less than daily eg MWFO cheers Edited May 17, 2020 by Rivercider Additional info 1 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted May 17, 2020 Author Share Posted May 17, 2020 Bridlington 1982 18 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 And they have to issue notices asking people to stay away from there??!!! (see seaside reopening after lockdown news) 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted May 17, 2020 Author Share Posted May 17, 2020 4 hours ago, Nearholmer said: And they have to issue notices asking people to stay away from there??!!! (see seaside reopening after lockdown news) Bridlington's mascot The Jolly Coalman didn't really take off in the same way that Skegness's did. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37501 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 I really like the photo of Dumfries. Growing up there in the 1970s and early 1980s I remember that there was a raised single track for discharging a stone wagon on the opposite side of the main line from the goods yard. There was a single PGA wagon there on several occasions, ARC I think. I never found out which working dropped it off and picked up the empty. John 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, 37501 said: I really like the photo of Dumfries. Growing up there in the 1970s and early 1980s I remember that there was a raised single track for discharging a stone wagon on the opposite side of the main line from the goods yard. There was a single PGA wagon there on several occasions, ARC I think. I never found out which working dropped it off and picked up the empty. John I wonder if this might have been agricultural lime? Whilst the flows to the Montrose area are well-documented, there were flows to the south-west as well. Edited May 18, 2020 by Fat Controller finger problems with on-screen keyboard 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
clachnaharry Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 On 13/05/2020 at 14:49, Tim V said: Blaenau Ffestiniog, modellers eye view (!) 1974. Great picture, but it ain't small and it certainly ain't quaint! 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold astropsidings Posted May 18, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 18, 2020 (edited) On 17/05/2020 at 08:03, Rivercider said: I believe the traditional vacuum braked wagon load network ceased in May 1984. Remaining revenue earning wagon load traffic was transferred to air braked wagons on the Speedlink network. That does not of course mean the end of vacuum braked (or unfitted) revenue earning traffic, but after that date it only ran in block trains, eg vac braked coal to Llanwern BSC, in MDVs/HTVs, or for export via Swansea in unfitted MDOs. In order to move engineers wagons and repaired cripples around the system a small network of vacuum braked services remained. There was a small network based on Gloucester New Yard with services to Tavistock Junction, Radyr, Bescot, Swindon etc. These ran less than daily eg MWFO cheers There was still an occasional MDV wagonload of reclaimed coal (“reclaimed coal” appeared to include the odd tree trunk and old bicycle frame) running from South Wales to Padworth, Aldermaston into 1985/6 via the Gloucester/Swindon and Reading engineers unfitted/VB service. The wagons would go down to Aldermaston on the Reading trip but because that was an air braked service, and partially/unfitted trains were no longer normally permitted down the Berks and Hants special authorization had to be sought. By the time that came through the wagon would have been to Aldermaston, been unloaded, and be back at Reading..... Edited May 18, 2020 by astropsidings 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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