7mm Wagon Loads, Wheels?

[Thunderforge]

Does anyone know of a maker of wagon wheel loads? 

If I wanted a train of flatbeds, loaded with wheels for a wagon works, I thought someone would make a casting perhaps? 

I’ve googled it but found nothing! Could there be a tiny gap in the market?!

I think buying Slaters/Peco ones could make it a bit pricey.

 

Edit: oh, and I’m not sure if this is posted in the right place, apologies if not!

Edited August 28, 2019 by Thunderforge

[Simond]

You could buy a couple of axles of Slaters or Peco, and use them to make a mould, and then resin cast as many as you’d like.  There are resin casting kits available - Google / Amazon.

 

hth

simon

[Guest JiLo]

Slightly OT, how much would a wheelset weight, say a typical 3-hole disc wheel set?

[Thunderforge]

@Simond 

Good point... I’ve got some ‘blue stuff’ used for making wargame duplicate parts, I might have a go using that. 

It’s a pretty rough method but would work for rusty wheels littering the yard. I’ll have a go and see what happens.

 

@JiLo

It would certainly put a lot of extra weight on a wagon. I’ll weigh a set when I try moulding it tomorrow :-)

Edited August 28, 2019 by Thunderforge

[hmrspaul]

2 hours ago, Thunderforge said:

Does anyone know of a maker of wagon wheel loads? 

If I wanted a train of flatbeds, loaded with wheels for a wagon works, I thought someone would make a casting perhaps? 

I’ve googled it but found nothing! Could there be a tiny gap in the market?!

I think buying Slaters/Peco ones could make it a bit pricey.

 

Edit: oh, and I’m not sure if this is posted in the right place, apologies if not!

Yes there is a tiny gap in the market. I wanted some wheels for a wagon works scene (and for loads) and couldn't find anything suitable. Seemed to be a very simple thing to do! When I mentioned this on the GoG forum I was given some 'spare' wheels - which was generous but they were of too good a quality really.

 

Paul

[Hal Nail]

7 hours ago, hmrspaul said:

I was given some 'spare' wheels - which was generous but they were of too good a quality really.

Although ironically given they would be more visible than “underneath”, arguably they should be at least scale 7? The axle ends would need reworking too.

 

Perhaps we could have a whole new set of finest O scale standards just for loads: FOSL 

Edited August 29, 2019 by Hal Nail

[hmrspaul]

4 hours ago, Hal Nail said:

Although ironically given they would be more visible than “underneath”, arguably they should be at least scale 7? The axle ends would need reworking too.

 

Perhaps we could have a whole new set of finest O scale standards just for loads: FOSL 

I agree, it is not an easy thing to model. They vary with time - modern wheelsets appear to be stored with their bearings in place https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/marcroftsswansea/e2ffba1c9  

whereas this is not usually how wheels with plain bearings were stored - but they have a shaped end (and axles are not just rods of steel but are also shaped!). Some of this very varied collection of wheels does have the plain bearings left in place  https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/standardreddish/e36ff19f6  https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/standardreddish/e6e9617 https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/bartoncandw/e13f29e86

 

And this is an interesting conversion of a BR Pipe carrying wheels https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brpipe/e21dac7aa (Several other photos)

 

Paul

[F-UnitMad]

Agree with the above - there's almost nothing worse than seeing "old wheels" lying around on a layout, that have pinpoint axles!!   ... along with 'old wheels' by an Engine Shed that has no wheel-drop facility modelled...

 

 

[Fat Controller]

I would imagine that non-roller bearing axles would at least receive a thick coat of grease before dispatch, to avoid the risk of surface corrosion. 

[Nearholmer]

Grease and a wrapping in hessian, retained with string.

 

I was surprised to see in a GWR General Appendix that ‘common or garden’ wheel sets were meant to be loaded so that there was a bottom layer with axles across the wagon, and a top layer with axles along the wagon, interlaced.

 

no apparent concern that any bruising occurring where the axles lay over one another might act as stress-raising points later.

[Thunderforge]

5 hours ago, F-UnitMad said:

Agree with the above - there's almost nothing worse than seeing "old wheels" lying around on a layout, that have pinpoint axles!!   ... along with 'old wheels' by an Engine Shed that has no wheel-drop facility modelled...

 

 

Hmm, I never thought of that before; now I’ll think of it every time I see it! 

Just like swords that go ‘shing!’ in films.

[toplink@()1989))((]

Many people have home 3D printers these days, would it be suitable to make a wagon load and use it as a master to produce a mould for resin casting perhaps?

 

Pete.

[D6775]

Would wheelsets out of old Lima wagons or Big Big stock suffice?