RMweb Premium 30368 Posted September 3, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 3, 2019 Well having finished a SEF G6 kit for Jack Benson and his proposed mini layout (Meldon Quarry I think) I remembered that I had a Alan Gibson G6 kit, complete with wheels and motor etc so what better time to build another G6. The Alan Gibson kit though is a very different proposition from the SEF kit consisting of a large number of brass and nickel silver etches. Anyway, a start has been made: I have also started to put together a wheels/motor/gearbox package for a London Road Models K2/2 kit for the Bentley Model Railway Group. Kind regards, Richard B 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 30368 Posted September 5, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted September 5, 2019 (edited) A quick update. Have painted and assembled axles/moter etc to the chassis. Quartering the wheels a little tricker with Gibson wheels and given that this kit is probably 12 years or more old, I also had an old Alan Gibson problem with one wheel rim becoming loose but easily rectified with the right super glue. For the first time I have used Alan Gibson pick-ups which consist of a nylon ferrule that passes through a hole in the frame. The ferrule houses the brass pickup and spring, the assembly is held in place by bending over the end of the pickup, rather like spring buffers. The contact point is at the back of the flange and continuity seems very good. Kind regards, Richard B Edited September 5, 2019 by 30368 error 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 30368 Posted September 7, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted September 7, 2019 Chassis almost complete, brake gear fitted and coupling rods too. All runs very smoothly, awaiting very fine wire to connect pick-ups to the motor. Must say that the Alan Gibson sprung pick-ups have made things very much simpler. Kind regards, Richard B 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 30368 Posted September 8, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted September 8, 2019 Footplate constructed and fitted. Soldering valances to buffer beams and footplate needed some patience! Kind regards, Richard B 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 30368 Posted September 11, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted September 11, 2019 (edited) Moving on to body building.. the cab has a lot of detail compared to the SEF version. and a not very good picture of the prototype being modelled which is another 70D allocated locomotive: Kind regards, Richard B Edited September 11, 2019 by 30368 addition 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ian Morgan Posted September 12, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 12, 2019 And a lovely view of Basingstoke too. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 30368 Posted September 12, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted September 12, 2019 Hi Ian Yes a good view of the London end and those wonderful pneumatically operated signals (and points). I used to park my moped in one of the machine rooms back in 1963. Hope to get back to my 70D layout this winter. Kind regards, Richard B Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 30368 Posted September 12, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted September 12, 2019 This afternoon's progress. Soldering the cab and side tank beading to the etch is a bit tricky but so long as the bending is fairly accurate it shouldn't be too bad. I located the etch blu-tack and then inserted the beading making sure it was central on the etch. Solder in short steps around the cab profile using a file end to press the beading into the corners. Then clean up excess solder - the view above is the inside so it will not show. Just beginning to look like a G6! Kind regards, Richard B 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 30368 Posted September 13, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted September 13, 2019 Today's update. In between gardening able to start soldering cab and side tanks together. Don't forget to drill the clearance holes for the tank filler casting before the tank inner etch is soldered into place. It is not marked so check the location from a drawing or good photographs. Boiler tube fitted temporarily to help locate tank sides and front before soldering. Kind regards, Richard B 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 30368 Posted September 14, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted September 14, 2019 Today's update. I'm sure we all do so but look at the prototype you are building very carefully. The G6 has a long and short smokebox variation and a snap riveted smokebox wrapper at both ends or at the boiler end or flush rivets. In early BR days 30258 has a short smokebox and snap rivets at both ends. I guess following a General Overhaul and boiler change it ended up with snap rivets at the boiler end only. The Alan Gibson kit thankfully caters for all variations. It recommends that you use solder paint to coat the under wrapper and the second (riveted) wrapper and then use a wire "tourniquet" to hold them in place. I found it much easier to fit and solder each wrapper separately using a gas torch (similar to those used on Master chief) to heat the boiler and wrappers. Kind regards, Richard B 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Bucoops Posted September 14, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 14, 2019 Looks similar to an N7 so far, including the cab beading and smokebox rivet variations! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 30368 Posted September 15, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted September 15, 2019 My goodness, where did I go wrong! Do you mean M7? N7 a bit different! Kind regards, Richard B 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DLT Posted September 15, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 15, 2019 Interesting project, I will be following. Cheers, Dave. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 30368 Posted September 15, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted September 15, 2019 Thanks Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Bucoops Posted September 15, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 15, 2019 4 hours ago, 30368 said: My goodness, where did I go wrong! Do you mean M7? N7 a bit different! Kind regards, Richard B Nope, N7 The one I'm building has flush rivets but later on in its life it gained snap head ones. Just reminded me of this point of my build 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 30368 Posted September 15, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted September 15, 2019 Brilliant looks a very good kit and it has been well assembled! Is it now completed? I see you have modelled the round top firebox version which I think was a Gresley modification introduced in LNER times? Please send a picture if its not too much trouble? Back to the G6/N7 - I'm not happy with the smokebox front casting - poor fit. So made up a black plasticard replacement: Needs to be filed to profile. Now glued into position and fitting can begin - replacement smokebox door is by Craftsmen Models. I should own up to making a bit of an error - the cab floor should be elevated by about 2mm! I have looked at rectification but it would disturb too much. I can correct aesthetically but blast it! Kind regards, Richard B 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Bucoops Posted September 15, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 15, 2019 THanks It indeed an N7/3 - Doncaster build Gresley modified version, still a ways from being finished, onto the fiddly pipework etc. now so my slow progress is now glacial lol I don't think any G6's made it to exGE metals? And they are too early for me but I do have a G5 to build at some point for push-pull work. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 30368 Posted September 15, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted September 15, 2019 The N7 look fine and I nice contrast with A J Hills original. Oxford Rail are doing a good job for LNER fans. The G5 should be an interesting build - someone is building a 1:1 scale version too. If I recall, the G5, being a NER loco also operated on the ex GER? One of my son-in-laws is building an ex GER layout when time permits - my daughter accuses me of corrupting a perfect decent chap into a model railway enthusiast! Makes Christmas and birthdays easier though - I'm a big fan of the LNER. Regarding the wee G6's - I believe they did occasionally work on cross - London transfer freights from Strawberry Hill and later Feltham and so may have made it to the GN and possibly the GE at Stratford? Mind, with such a small bunker and side tanks many stops for refreshment would be necessary. Thanks for the pics, great and good luck with the plans. Kind regards, Richard B 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Bucoops Posted September 16, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 16, 2019 I'm (attempting) to model 1939 so if they did make it then it was too early anyway I did notice the bunker is tiny isn't it! Keep corrupting - I love the ex-GER Watching your build with much interest - I'll try not to divert it any more! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 30368 Posted September 16, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted September 16, 2019 Please divert Bucoops! Part of my family were from Norwich so I kind of like the GER too. Anyway, G6 looks a lot less like an N7 now! Kind regards, Richard B 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 30368 Posted September 24, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted September 24, 2019 Sorry, no progress to report. Mrs B and I have been on a weeks break in Venice. Battle with the wee G6 will re-commence shortly. Kind regards, Richard B 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 30368 Posted September 26, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted September 26, 2019 Some progress to report and a picture of 30258 and its two sister engines. I have made a pair of lifting brackets for the top of the side tanks that are not included in the kit. Bunker extension used is the plated in variety, both types provided in the kit. The boiler clack valve/pipe castings are very good. A picture of the three G6's, including Jack Benson's version that will soon be delivered to him. Sorry, not a great picture! Kind regards, Richard B 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayfield Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 Looking very splendid 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 30368 Posted September 29, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted September 29, 2019 Delivered G6 DS 682 to Jack Benson today. Some progress with 30258 today too. Added some detail and completed, although not fitted, the cab roof. Kind regards, Richard B 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 30368 Posted October 12, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted October 12, 2019 My final update on the G6 build since it is now complete. Main computer has been out of action for a week or two due to hard drive nervous breakdown but local computer repair shop has manged to fix and save all my data so well done them! A few pics then: Complete prior to painting and fixing of buffers. With its SEF sister number 30277 this loco completes the G6 roster for Basingstoke. Couldn't resist showing you my, now, fairly old scratch built model of an Adams 0398. Runs fairly sweetly and is a nice contrast with the 700 class. Have now started building a London Road Models K2/2 for Bentley Model Railway Group's Kannotburn layout. Initial impressions of the kit suggest that this will be a lengthy process! Kind regards, Richard B 5 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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