Ark Royal Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Hi Does anyone one have dimensions to any feature, such as passenger windows, door widths and windows, on the sides of Hastings DEMU's. I have scaled mine from photographs but i am now trying to confirm these dimensions with actual dimensions taken from the real thing. Any assistance will be invaluable. Many Thanks in advance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddy water Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 http://www.barrowmoremrg.co.uk/BRBDocuments/Book230Issue.pdf This might help a bit! Give the barrowmore guys a call if you are wanting to use it for commercial reasons. Good luck with the project. It looks great! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ark Royal Posted September 22, 2019 Author Share Posted September 22, 2019 (edited) Thanks for the response and positive feed back Muddy Waters I have general dimensions and indeed used the dimensions in this book for the Trailer First Class Corridor Bulkhead positions, it was more the window dimensions and door window dimensions i needed. I can get them in 2020 via a HDL railtours but am keen to crack on. I'm kicking myself now as i used to travel on these weekly in the late 70's early 80's up to London , avoiding slam door electics like the plague, but never once thought i'd want to build a scale model.... When scaling them from photos i couldnt get a consistent dimension due to photograph angles, which left me with this dilemma. For any young railway enthusiast out there that may read this post, i urge you to take note and take down dimensions etc , you never know what you may want to do in the future . Mark Edited September 22, 2019 by Ark Royal spelling 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 I'd guess door and window widths are exactly the same as any other Mk 1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium nick_bastable Posted September 23, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 23, 2019 http://www.pdhdrawings.com/catalogue.php cover 201/2 and 203/4 I used them for my 2mm version still unfinished of a 201 Nick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted September 23, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 23, 2019 I am using the BR diagrams as on the Barrowmoor gang's website for window sizes, they are accurate enough for us modellers. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
anroar53 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Found this book to be really good, as it has 4mm scale drawings of all DMU/DEMU classes. As I modelled 2mm I had to halve all the measurements to make my models of the Hastings units. Andy. 4 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted September 23, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 23, 2019 6 hours ago, anroar53 said: Found this book to be really good, as it has 4mm scale drawings of all DMU/DEMU classes. As I modelled 2mm I had to halve all the measurements to make my models of the Hastings units. Andy. HI Andy They look amazing and so does the layout. Do you have a layout thread? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ark Royal Posted September 24, 2019 Author Share Posted September 24, 2019 Thanks again for all the replies Wickham Green - hadn't thought of it like that and certainly worth further investigation. Cracking job Andy , they certainly look the part, are they 3D printed, etched or plastikard construction ? Like to see them in person , do you exhibit the layout ? The book is out of print so the chances of finding one are slim i have added it to my list Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
anroar53 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 7 hours ago, Clive Mortimore said: HI Andy They look amazing and so does the layout. Do you have a layout thread? There are bits and pieces of stuff on my RMWeb Blog at Or there is a lot more on the Layout's own page at https://www.facebook.com/WestCoastSouthernSection/ Andy. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
anroar53 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 2 hours ago, Ark Royal said: Thanks again for all the replies Wickham Green - hadn't thought of it like that and certainly worth further investigation. Cracking job Andy , they certainly look the part, are they 3D printed, etched or plastikard construction ? Like to see them in person , do you exhibit the layout ? The book is out of print so the chances of finding one are slim i have added it to my list Mark The Hastings Units were all scratchbuilt from plasticard, with some Mark 1 cast carriage ends filed down to narrow profile, along with the roof sections which came from some B H Enterprise kits. The upper window quarter lights were made from etched brass ladders cut in half. They are powered by a Greenmax chassis. They are about 25 years old now, and once did the rounds on an Exhibition layout 'Redbury' during the late 1990s. At the moment the units make sporadic appearances on my current layout, which unfortunately never leaves home, as it is built into my loft space. My RMWeb blog has some pictures Or at https://www.facebook.com/WestCoastSouthernSection/ Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ark Royal Posted September 24, 2019 Author Share Posted September 24, 2019 11 hours ago, anroar53 said: The Hastings Units were all scratchbuilt from plasticard, with some Mark 1 cast carriage ends filed down to narrow profile, along with the roof sections which came from some B H Enterprise kits. The upper window quarter lights were made from etched brass ladders cut in half. They are powered by a Greenmax chassis. They are about 25 years old now, and once did the rounds on an Exhibition layout 'Redbury' during the late 1990s. At the moment the units make sporadic appearances on my current layout, which unfortunately never leaves home, as it is built into my loft space. Well they don't look 25 years old and a testament to your skills as a modeller and ingenuity when it came to the quaterlight windows. 11 hours ago, anroar53 said: My RMWeb blog has some pictures Or at https://www.facebook.com/WestCoastSouthernSection/ Andy A plethera of quite stunning photography and modelling. Love the "North end of Watford Junction" and the canal scenes. I'd never be out of my loft with a layout like that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceptic Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 On 23/09/2019 at 12:44, Wickham Green said: I'd guess door and window widths are exactly the same as any other Mk 1. Both doors and windows are the same widths, but the window depths are only the same as Mk.1. Suburban stock, i.e. 2' - 9 5/8" deep. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ark Royal Posted September 28, 2019 Author Share Posted September 28, 2019 On 25/09/2019 at 11:16, Ceptic said: Both doors and windows are the same widths, but the window depths are only the same as Mk.1. Suburban stock, i.e. 2' - 9 5/8" deep. Thanks to Wicckham Green and Ceptic. That's a step closer, much more Mk1 stock available to measure. Ceptic : I note from your posts a long while ago that you were doing some quite extensive work into measurements of stock. Was this in relation to a future publication ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceptic Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 6 hours ago, Ark Royal said: Thanks to Wickham Green and Ceptic. That's a step closer, much more Mk1 stock available to measure. Ceptic : I note from your posts a long while ago that you were doing some quite extensive work into measurements of stock. Was this in relation to a future publication ? 'Fraid not, Ark Royal. The drawings were a continuation of existing work, drawn in connection with the development of etched brass kits. Some of these were converted to 2D digital (SketchUp) to assist Colin Parks' 4-CIG scratch-build topic. Prior to this, I did some art-work (in the 1980s) with the idea of building a Cl. 205/3-H 'Hampshire' Demu. That's where the window depth dimensions came from. Then, of course, along came DC Kits and, latterly, Kernow / Bachmann. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ark Royal Posted September 28, 2019 Author Share Posted September 28, 2019 (edited) On 28/09/2019 at 14:21, Ceptic said: ........... latterly, Kernow / Bachmann. God Bless Him (Colin Parks) , A very talented man indeed and a loss to our fraternity. Wish i had some of his talent in plastikard construction LMAO Know that feeling rather well Edited October 6, 2019 by Ark Royal Missed Comment Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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